Electric shock: A new study found that EVs were more expensive to fuel than gas-powered cars at the end of 2022
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A better solution would be to send the cars over without batteries, and either make the batteries here, or sip them in a separate vessel.
We should me making arms instead EVs. Way better profit margins plus we meet our obligations and arms shortfalls. It's a lot of jobs too.
Do they not understand we don't have the infrastructure to have EV's only? OMGosh, how stupid are these people? I have no issue with hybrids but to demand that EV's be the only option is lubricous!
Do they not understand we don't have the infrastructure to have EV's only? OMGosh, how stupid are these people? I have no issue with hybrids but to demand that EV's be the only option is lubricous!
Do they not understand we don't have the infrastructure to have EV's only? OMGosh, how stupid are these people? I have no issue with hybrids but to demand that EV's be the only option is lubricous!
Do they not understand we don't have the infrastructure to have EV's only? OMGosh, how stupid are these people? I have no issue with hybrids but to demand that EV's be the only option is ludicrous.
Hydrogen-electric would seem to me to be a good mix. On paper anyway. Still can't beat diesel for work.
Is the government forcing a hydrogen mandate on Canada (?) or something else?
(YouTube & LET THE CONSUMER CHOOSE: Put the electric vehicle mandate in park)
Starting next year, the Liberal plan to get more electric vehicles on the road will enter its first phase: mandating sales targets for car companies, which could purchase credits, including by spending on charging infrastructure, or face penalties for not complying, which they definitely won’t pass onto their customers.
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The government has set a target of 20 per cent of new passenger vehicles sold in 2026 must be either battery-powered or hybrid, which increases to 60 per cent by 2030 and reaches 100 per cent by 2035, whether you want one or not.
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Brian Kingston, the president and CEO of the Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers’ Association, which represents Ford, General Motors and Stellantis and has long opposed the sales mandate, says the policy heaps on added costs at a time when keeping production in Canada has been made more difficult by U.S. tariffs.
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The Opposition Conservatives, before the House of Commons broke for summer, ramped up pressure on the Liberals to scrap the mandate, saying it removes “choice” from consumers.
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Kelly McParland: While the Liberals fixate on electric vehicles, people are buying hybrids — National Post
Perversely, Ottawa's 100% tariffs on EVs ensures the price of hybrids remains more attractive
Owning an EV can save thousands, but price incentive not big enough to meet Liberal targets: PBO — National Post
'According to our estimates, in order to induce a change in consumer behaviour to reach the 2030 target, the relative cost of owning (an EV) will have to drop by 31%'
Tariffs, Elon Musk and charging headaches: Quebec is suddenly seeing trouble in its EV paradise — National Post
In Quebec, there were more than 50,000 Teslas registered in 2024, which is eight per cent of the 376,000 electric vehicles in the province
Pressure building on Liberals to rethink electric vehicle mandate — National Post
The goal was developed as a way to reduce the country's emissions, taking direct aim at the transportation sector, which is among the top emitters
Rising pressure over the EV issue is part of the central tension facing Prime Minister Mark Carney, which is how much to adjust the Liberals’ climate policies to address concerns coming from industry and premiers, amid a time of economic uncertainty.
Longstanding demands from the auto industry and its associations to scrap the electric vehicle mandate have grown louder in recent weeks, as they point to falling EV sales and struggles in the trade war with U.S. President Donald Trump, who has taken direct aim at Canada’s auto sector.
Several provincial leaders at the meeting of premiers in Huntsville, Ont., have called on Carney’s government to back off the mandate, including Ontario Premier Doug Ford, who said it should be scrapped because companies will not be able to meet the targets.
Alberta Premier Danielle Smith has also called for its removal as part of a suite of changes she wants to see to the Liberals’ federal climate policies.
Under the mandate, which the Liberals formalized in 2023, all new vehicle sales in Canada must be zero-emission by 2035, starting with a target of reaching 20 per cent by 2026 and then increasing to 60 per cent by 2030.
“Minister Dabrusin and Environment Canada seem to be committed to having an (electric vehicle) mandate in place, and we continue to make the case to them that there are no changes that you could make to this mandate that will solve the current situation that we’re in,” he told National Post, on a call while he attended the premiers meeting in Ontario’s cottage country.
Any changes the government might consider would take time to implement, he said, adding that there was “deep frustration” within the industry as it must decide how to meet the upcoming targets, with one option being to restrict sales of internal combustion engine vehicles.
“This is urgent,” Kingston said. “This isn’t a tomorrow problem.”
Under the policy, companies could earn credits either by selling zero-emission vehicles, which include plug-in hybrids or ones powered by hydrogen, purchasing credits from another electric vehicle maker, or spending money on building out charging infrastructure.
Should they fail to meet the targets, they could face penalties under the Canadian Environmental Protection Act. As with all things of this nature, ultimately that cost would be passed along to the end user being…us.
“The environment minister does not want to scrap the mandate— that was made very clear to us, and that is extremely problematic for the industry. That option cannot be off the table. It is the most effective and fastest way to address this current problem,” Kingston said.
In a statement, a spokesperson for Dabrusin said the policy was implemented to give Canadians access “to affordable zero-emission vehicles to fight climate change with Canadian innovation.” So does that mean Canada will open the door to competition from Affordable Chinese EV’s?
With the environment minister not appearing to entertain the question of scrapping the targets, he said the “pressure is on” Dabrusin’s department to make them “mean something.” (???)
Auto industry says environment minister won't relent despite calls to scrap EV mandate — National Post
Longstanding demands from the auto industry to scrap the EV mandate have grown louder in recent weeks, as they point to falling sales and the U.S. trade war
For some reason, the ones BC Transit tried in the buses did not work out so well. We were supposed to get a hydrogen highway from Whistler to Seattle. They claimed excessive maintenance and downtime.
As I recall, they scrapped the hydrogen buses instead of converting them to diesel.
But the government knows what we want. They tell us this all the time.Starting next year, the Liberal plan to get more electric vehicles on the road will enter its first phase: mandating sales targets for car companies, which could purchase credits, including by spending on charging infrastructure, or face penalties for not complying, which they definitely won’t pass onto their customers.
The government has set a target of 20 per cent of new passenger vehicles sold in 2026 must be either battery-powered or hybrid, which increases to 60 per cent by 2030 and reaches 100 per cent by 2035, whether you want one or not.Kelly McParland: While the Liberals fixate on electric vehicles, people are buying hybrids — National Post
Perversely, Ottawa's 100% tariffs on EVs ensures the price of hybrids remains more attractive
Brian Kingston, the president and CEO of the Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers’ Association, which represents Ford, General Motors and Stellantis and has long opposed the sales mandate, says the policy heaps on added costs at a time when keeping production in Canada has been made more difficult by U.S. tariffs.Owning an EV can save thousands, but price incentive not big enough to meet Liberal targets: PBO — National Post
'According to our estimates, in order to induce a change in consumer behaviour to reach the 2030 target, the relative cost of owning (an EV) will have to drop by 31%'
The Opposition Conservatives, before the House of Commons broke for summer, ramped up pressure on the Liberals to scrap the mandate, saying it removes “choice” from consumers.Tariffs, Elon Musk and charging headaches: Quebec is suddenly seeing trouble in its EV paradise — National Post
In Quebec, there were more than 50,000 Teslas registered in 2024, which is eight per cent of the 376,000 electric vehicles in the province
Pressure building on Liberals to rethink electric vehicle mandate — National Post
The goal was developed as a way to reduce the country's emissions, taking direct aim at the transportation sector, which is among the top emitters