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Most of us were hoping Trump would fix the damage leftish governments have inflicted on the US. Especially the massive debt, which is an economic threat to the whole world. TBF, Republicans over the last couple of decades have not done enough to cut spending either. Federal, State, Municipal. I'm no longer even sure the politicians are even in control. It looks like bureaucraps and special interest groups are ruining the show.
Instead, he added to that debt by cutting taxes with no way to pay for it.

He was running Reagan's script: Lower taxes, raise spending, and the magic of GROWTH will fix it all.

It was stupid then, it's stupid now, and if you bought it. . . you're stupid.
 
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I got this from comments left on video from yesterday's fiasco and thought it was worth sharing. No, I can't validate any of it but you gotta admit if it is true, it's fucking telling about the guts of the Ukranian people.

"Kai Colleen Cruz
Posting this message I got this morning from a beloved Ukrainian born friend of mine. I met her maybe 18 months ago. She was working in a local bar that has live music. Making her way in America. And she could sing too!!!
She is a beautiful girl with a beautiful soul.
Her message to me via text:
“I was crying the whole day yesterday, my BF and I we were crying together. My heart is broken, but yesterday I was losing hope, and today, I’m just angry. I guess, being angry is better than being hopeless) I’ve lived in 3 countries in the world prior to the United States, and I’ve never felt more rightless than here now. I have been thinking of America as a country of freedom, but now I feel like being under Russian dictatorship again. I am not American yet, but if I would be right now, I would stand for my rights because this has to be done now.
Trump destroyed US economy and turned the whole world against America in 30 days!
It’s hard to imagine what he’s going to achieve in the next 4 years!
In Ukraine, when we didn’t like the president’s actions in 2014, we took the Ukrainian presidential office and made a revolution. We did not have guns. I was there. Even when KGB shooters from the roof tops on Maidan were killing people, I was there, standing under their guns. No weapons. Ukrainian civilians did not have any. We threw out r government without firing a shot.
Our former president escaped to Russia
😂
You guys are the ones who decide the future of your country. You have to stand for yourselves while it is not late. I know the tactics of KGB. I grew up in the pro-Russian city in Ukraine. They distract you, they make you believe that they have power and you don’t, they make you believe that you can’t change anything, and they make you hate your own country. They know how to turn people against each other, so they divide and rule. Don’t give up your hopes, American people are the only who decide their country’s faith”.
I’m sharing to the world the heart of a Ukrainian woman. She’s amazing.
I say:
Copy this, share it to the world. She gave me permission but I omitted her bf’s name. And wrote “bf”
My heart goes out to her.
I believe we are now facing the same fight she faced in Ukraine, their former president fled to Russia.
We need ALL OF US TOGETHER or we lose.
I am also this:
MoM
Mom of Marine.
🦅
🌎
⚓️
Semper Fi
🇺🇸
🇺🇦
"
 
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The President and Vice President are Soviet agents, and America can now call itself West Russia.
If you're cheering for this, you're just another useful idiot standing at the fireside as they burn it all down.
Just another Lord Haw Haw.

 
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I am wondering how much of this has to do with Hunter Biden?
Of course, it's personal. Zelensky wouldn't hand over dirt on Biden's kid. It has everything to do with revenge. His hate on Canada has everything to do with Justin Trudeau and hot microphones. Trump is a sociopath, possibly a psychopath, and he's been given a mandate.

What a fucking shit show.

He's serving Europe on a silver platter for his buddy Putin.

If there wasn't Russian collusion before there most assuredly is now.
 

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Of course, it's personal. Zelensky wouldn't hand over dirt on Biden's kid. It has everything to do with revenge. His hate on Canada has everything to do with Justin Trudeau and hot microphones. Trump is a sociopath, possibly a psychopath, and he's been given a mandate.

What a fucking shit show.

He's serving Europe on a silver platter for his buddy Putin.

If there wasn't Russian collusion before there most assuredly is now.
Just think not even three months into his presidency and you atr ready to blow your top . All this clutching of pearls and tearing hair will affect your health . Hey I hear Trudeau suggest he would put Canadian troops into the meat grinder .
 
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The President and Vice President are Soviet agents, and America can now call itself West Russia.
If you're cheering for this, you're just another useful idiot standing at the fireside as they burn it all down.
Just another Lord Haw Haw.

Soviet agents but shows a nazi . Another smart guy .
 
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Soviet agents but shows a nazi . Another smart guy .
:rolleyes: Know what the difference between the Soviets and the nazis was? Aside from the obvious, the people who were "privileged" enough to experience life under both said, "Nothing". That's the difference. Living in fear is living in fear. Two different ideologies, very, very similar methodology.
 

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I would rather get timely health care and be broke , not die on a waiting list .
Nope. Instead you die homeless and abandoned. But hey, at least ya got that surgery ya needed.
But if all Canada has is health care we are a piss poor excuse for a country . It will be past my time but Canada will not last the century without fracturing . Probably not even to the half way mark .
Oh hell dude, back in the 1990's I wrote a piece about how countries like Canada and the US would likely fracture into smaller nations and I predicted that one or both would do so sometime in the mid to latter half of the 21st century. Either that or one or both would become dictatorships.
I won't go into the details because it was pretty detailed and I probably write enough tl/dr posts in here. 🤔
 

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Just think not even three months into his presidency and you atr ready to blow your top . All this clutching of pearls and tearing hair will affect your health . Hey I hear Trudeau suggest he would put Canadian troops into the meat grinder .
No, he didn't. He said if there was a peacekeeping mission he'd consider it but that likely won't happen. UN convention states that belligerents cannot contribute peacekeepers to a zone they were belligerents in. While we didn't send soldiers, we did send military assistance and provided training for some Ukrainian troops.
 

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I got this from comments left on video from yesterday's fiasco and thought it was worth sharing. No, I can't validate any of it but you gotta admit if it is true, it's fucking telling about the guts of the Ukranian people.

"Kai Colleen Cruz
Posting this message I got this morning from a beloved Ukrainian born friend of mine. I met her maybe 18 months ago. She was working in a local bar that has live music. Making her way in America. And she could sing too!!!
She is a beautiful girl with a beautiful soul.
Her message to me via text:
“I was crying the whole day yesterday, my BF and I we were crying together. My heart is broken, but yesterday I was losing hope, and today, I’m just angry. I guess, being angry is better than being hopeless) I’ve lived in 3 countries in the world prior to the United States, and I’ve never felt more rightless than here now. I have been thinking of America as a country of freedom, but now I feel like being under Russian dictatorship again. I am not American yet, but if I would be right now, I would stand for my rights because this has to be done now.
Trump destroyed US economy and turned the whole world against America in 30 days!
It’s hard to imagine what he’s going to achieve in the next 4 years!
In Ukraine, when we didn’t like the president’s actions in 2014, we took the Ukrainian presidential office and made a revolution. We did not have guns. I was there. Even when KGB shooters from the roof tops on Maidan were killing people, I was there, standing under their guns. No weapons. Ukrainian civilians did not have any. We threw out r government without firing a shot.
Our former president escaped to Russia
😂
You guys are the ones who decide the future of your country. You have to stand for yourselves while it is not late. I know the tactics of KGB. I grew up in the pro-Russian city in Ukraine. They distract you, they make you believe that they have power and you don’t, they make you believe that you can’t change anything, and they make you hate your own country. They know how to turn people against each other, so they divide and rule. Don’t give up your hopes, American people are the only who decide their country’s faith”.
I’m sharing to the world the heart of a Ukrainian woman. She’s amazing.
I say:
Copy this, share it to the world. She gave me permission but I omitted her bf’s name. And wrote “bf”
My heart goes out to her.
I believe we are now facing the same fight she faced in Ukraine, their former president fled to Russia.
We need ALL OF US TOGETHER or we lose.
I am also this:
MoM
Mom of Marine.
🦅
🌎
⚓️
Semper Fi
🇺🇸
🇺🇦
"
Nope. Not written by a Ukrainian. To share it as such isn't a good thing.

How do I know? "I was in Botswana driving across the Kalahari and was pulled over by the RCMP..."

KGB didnt exist in 2014.
 
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No, he didn't. He said if there was a peacekeeping mission he'd consider it but that likely won't happen. UN convention states that belligerents cannot contribute peacekeepers to a zone they were belligerents in. While we didn't send soldiers, we did send military assistance and provided training for some Ukrainian troops.
Canada was arming and training Azov from 2014 to 22.
 
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Just think not even three months into his presidency and you atr ready to blow your top . All this clutching of pearls and tearing hair will affect your health . Hey I hear Trudeau suggest he would put Canadian troops into the meat grinder .
I'm not ready to blow my top. I knew he would stab the Ukrainians in the back from the get-go. I'm ashamed that you like a guy who has turned his back on what is right. But that's your problem, not mine. I've said he's a snake oil salesman from the beginning. Everything he is doing is predictable.

America is now an emerging oligarchy and no longer the balance that kept tyrants from expanding their borders.

Cheer on, brother. Cheer on as the fires and books burn.
Cheer on while Russia and China expand their empires.

Every tyrant has its Lord Haw Haws.
If I were you, I'd be ashamed.

But MAGA.
 

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I'm not ready to blow my top. I knew he would stab the Ukrainians in the back from the get-go. I'm ashamed that you like a guy who has turned his back on what is right. But that's your problem, not mine. I've said he's a snake oil salesman from the beginning. Everything he is doing is predictable.

America is now an emerging oligarchy and no longer the balance that kept tyrants from expanding their borders.

Cheer on, brother. Cheer on as the fires and books burn.
Cheer on while Russia and China expand their empires.

Every tyrant has its Lord Haw Haws.
If I were you, I'd be ashamed.

But MAGA.
You did the best you could, bro.

And so did pgs.
 

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I'm not ready to blow my top. I knew he would stab the Ukrainians in the back from the get-go. I'm ashamed that you like a guy who has turned his back on what is right. But that's your problem, not mine. I've said he's a snake oil salesman from the beginning. Everything he is doing is predictable.

America is now an emerging oligarchy and no longer the balance that kept tyrants from expanding their borders.

Cheer on, brother. Cheer on as the fires and books burn.
Cheer on while Russia and China expand their empires.

Every tyrant has its Lord Haw Haws.
If I were you, I'd be ashamed.

But MAGA.
The "security guarantees" Zelenskyy kept repeating he wants that Europe is ready for is Ukraine in the EU and in NATO. Zelenskyy let's that cat out of the bag when interviewed on Fox before heading to the UK.

There was no agreement to sign in Washington. Watch the full video of the meeting and watch Zelenskyy shake his head "no" while Trump is saying yes when a reporter asked Trump if there' a deal to sign. Zelenskyy wasn't expecting a cease fire.

Best part was when Zelenskyy mumbled ьлуат сука/blyat suka (whore bitch) to Vance.
 

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No, he didn't. He said if there was a peacekeeping mission he'd consider it but that likely won't happen. UN convention states that belligerents cannot contribute peacekeepers to a zone they were belligerents in. While we didn't send soldiers, we did send military assistance and provided training for some Ukrainian troops.
All irrelevant. We have neither the troops nor operational equipment to send anywhere.
 

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I’ve missed that, but I’ve only seen exerts & not the whole thing due to time constraints.
They blindsided Zelenskyy with the cease-fire. He also said no agreement without Russia 100% exiting Ukraine. The "peacekeepers" Europe and Canada are prepared for is in a NATO force in a NATO Ukraine. Trump keeps blathering about not wanting to be a war President. If Article 5 goes live he csn still say he didnt start a war if its NATO putting Putin to bed.
 

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All irrelevant. We have neither the troops nor operational equipment to send anywhere.
We're already in Europe in a big way.

Canada has roughly 1,500 troops in a Canadian-led NATO brigade in Latvia. Canada is committed to increasing the number of troops in Latvia to up to 2,200 by 2026. This is part of Canada's larger commitment to bolstering NATO's defenses and security.

Why is Canada increasing its presence in Latvia?
To strengthen the border with Russia after Russia's invasion of Ukraine. To demonstrate Canada's commitment to NATO's collective defense and security
 

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I'm not ready to blow my top. I knew he would stab the Ukrainians in the back from the get-go. I'm ashamed that you like a guy who has turned his back on what is right. But that's your problem, not mine. I've said he's a snake oil salesman from the beginning. Everything he is doing is predictable.

America is now an emerging oligarchy and no longer the balance that kept tyrants from expanding their borders.

Cheer on, brother. Cheer on as the fires and books burn.
Cheer on while Russia and China expand their empires.

Every tyrant has its Lord Haw Haws.
If I were you, I'd be ashamed.

But MAGA.
Nothing to be ashamed of . If the U.S. is successful we ride on their coat tails . A rising tide raises all boats as they say . I am not so naive to think that this trade dispute won’t get settled once we put our own political house in order . What is the benifit to America negotiating with a lame duck . Trump is who the Americans put in the White House , we cannot change that fact . From the polls I see they would still vote him in again . All Canada‘s collective hatred of Trump changes nothing except blood pressure .
 

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They blindsided Zelenskyy with the cease-fire. He also said no agreement without Russia 100% exiting Ukraine. The "peacekeepers" Europe and Canada are prepared for is in a NATO force in a NATO Ukraine. Trump keeps blathering about not wanting to be a war President. If Article 5 goes live he csn still say he didnt start a war if its NATO putting Putin to bed.
I agree what I've been reading is the plan is to put the disputed areas under UN controlled seize fire, and allow UN observed elections in the areas to vote whether to stay with Russia or rejoin Ukraine. In my opinion this plan will force WWIII quicker than the present situation due to how the peace keeping nations will react when Russia refuses them and attacks their troops.
 
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