The Tarriff Hype.

Ron in Regina

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Despite weeks of Canadian efforts to tighten border security to prevent tariffs, U.S. President Donald Trump says 25 per cent import duties on Canadian and Mexican products will go ahead next week.

The first round of tariffs, which the president initially directly tied to fixing what he condemned as an illegal influx of fentanyl and migrants coming across America's southern and northern borders, are set to take effect on Mar. 4.

On Monday, Mélanie Joly, Canada's foreign affairs minister, pushed back, saying the U.S. is a "net exporter" of illegal fentanyl, guns and migrants to Canada.
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Joly, speaking at a virtual news conference from London, told reporters she was not aware of Trump's specific remarks earlier Monday but stressed that "we need to be aware that the threat of tariffs is a real one, and may continue for a while."

(I’m guessing about four years?)

Canada is ready for "all scenarios," (???) Joly said, and while not alone in facing Trump's economic threats, is "the only country on earth" to stand up and publicly outline a retaliatory plan to impose counter-tariffs on $155 billion worth of American imports if Trump proceeds.
Joly said Trump and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had a "constructive" phone call on Saturday focused mostly on the war in Ukraine.

Trump and Trudeau spoke again during a G7 leaders' call Monday on Ukraine, with Trump posting on social media that the call was led by "Governor Justin Trudeau of Canada." Joly said Trudeau had flagged to Trump Canada's work on the border on Saturday, and said government has had "positive" feedback from American officials on its $1.5-billion plan to boost border security — one she said Canada is doing to stop the northward flow of fentanyl, guns and migrants.

However, she suggested, Ottawa has no guarantee any of it is enough to exempt Canada from next week's threat.

So officials will continue to argue that the trading relationship with the U.S. "greatly" benefits America, she said, "but at the same time, we will defend Canadian jobs. We will absolutely fight back, and we will be there to defend Canada's and Canadians' way of living."

Trump, at a joint news conference with French President Emmanuel Macron, was asked directly about the looming Mar. 4 deadline that he agreed to when he set a 30-day delay on punitive measures on Canada and Mexico.
Those tariffs would mean a 25 per cent import tax on most Canadian products, though only a 10 per cent charge on oil and gas, reflecting a greater American dependence on Canadian energy exports.🤫
When a reporter asked Monday if the two countries had done enough to stop the tariffs, Trump replied, "We're on time with the tariffs, and it seems like that's moving along very rapidly.

"We've been mistreated very badly by many countries, not just Canada and Mexico," Trump added.

Trump has since also threatened to stack — on top of the 25 per cent "across-the-board" tariffs tied to border measures — a separate 25 per cent tariff on steel and aluminum from Canada and other countries in a bid to bring manufacturing back to the U.S.

Additionally, the president in the past two weeks has piled on separate tariff threats for foreign cars including from Canada, Canadian lumber, imports of semi-conductor chips and pharmaceuticals, as well as what he calls global "reciprocal tariffs"— aimed at correcting what Trump views as unfair sales taxes on U.S. goods in foreign countries, unfair export subsidies, and unfair digital services taxes that countries like Canada and France have levied on big American tech companies.

Trump said he blames his predecessor, Biden & whomever was President before him saying other countries took advantage of the United States "on manufacturing, on just about everything."

"No, the tariffs are going forward, on time, on schedule," Trump said Monday. He again suggested "reciprocal tariffs" will level the playing field and raise revenues for the U.S. Treasury, saying "our country will be extremely liquid, and rich again." & potentially kind of lonely.

Trump didn't specifically reference the CUSMA, as it's called in Canada, but he did trash-talk unspecified trade agreements Monday, saying, "I look at some of these agreements, I'd read 'em at night and say 'who would ever sign a thing like this?' "

(That would’ve been President Trump in 2019…🤫)

In the short term, Trump's comments set up "for another meeting on the brink" next week, said Volpe, as the Canadian government, premiers, and business, union and industry leaders try to figure out how to avoid the threats.
 

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Despite weeks of Canadian efforts to tighten border security to prevent tariffs, U.S. President Donald Trump says 25 per cent import duties on Canadian and Mexican products will go ahead next week.

The first round of tariffs, which the president initially directly tied to fixing what he condemned as an illegal influx of fentanyl and migrants coming across America's southern and northern borders, are set to take effect on Mar. 4.

On Monday, Mélanie Joly, Canada's foreign affairs minister, pushed back, saying the U.S. is a "net exporter" of illegal fentanyl, guns and migrants to Canada.
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Joly, speaking at a virtual news conference from London, told reporters she was not aware of Trump's specific remarks earlier Monday but stressed that "we need to be aware that the threat of tariffs is a real one, and may continue for a while."

(I’m guessing about four years?)

Canada is ready for "all scenarios," (???) Joly said, and while not alone in facing Trump's economic threats, is "the only country on earth" to stand up and publicly outline a retaliatory plan to impose counter-tariffs on $155 billion worth of American imports if Trump proceeds.

Joly said Trump and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had a "constructive" phone call on Saturday focused mostly on the war in Ukraine.

Trump and Trudeau spoke again during a G7 leaders' call Monday on Ukraine, with Trump posting on social media that the call was led by "Governor Justin Trudeau of Canada." Joly said Trudeau had flagged to Trump Canada's work on the border on Saturday, and said government has had "positive" feedback from American officials on its $1.5-billion plan to boost border security — one she said Canada is doing to stop the northward flow of fentanyl, guns and migrants.

However, she suggested, Ottawa has no guarantee any of it is enough to exempt Canada from next week's threat.

So officials will continue to argue that the trading relationship with the U.S. "greatly" benefits America, she said, "but at the same time, we will defend Canadian jobs. We will absolutely fight back, and we will be there to defend Canada's and Canadians' way of living."

Trump, at a joint news conference with French President Emmanuel Macron, was asked directly about the looming Mar. 4 deadline that he agreed to when he set a 30-day delay on punitive measures on Canada and Mexico.
Those tariffs would mean a 25 per cent import tax on most Canadian products, though only a 10 per cent charge on oil and gas, reflecting a greater American dependence on Canadian energy exports.🤫
When a reporter asked Monday if the two countries had done enough to stop the tariffs, Trump replied, "We're on time with the tariffs, and it seems like that's moving along very rapidly.

"We've been mistreated very badly by many countries, not just Canada and Mexico," Trump added.

Trump has since also threatened to stack — on top of the 25 per cent "across-the-board" tariffs tied to border measures — a separate 25 per cent tariff on steel and aluminum from Canada and other countries in a bid to bring manufacturing back to the U.S.

Additionally, the president in the past two weeks has piled on separate tariff threats for foreign cars including from Canada, Canadian lumber, imports of semi-conductor chips and pharmaceuticals, as well as what he calls global "reciprocal tariffs"— aimed at correcting what Trump views as unfair sales taxes on U.S. goods in foreign countries, unfair export subsidies, and unfair digital services taxes that countries like Canada and France have levied on big American tech companies.

Trump said he blames his predecessor, Biden & whomever was President before him saying other countries took advantage of the United States "on manufacturing, on just about everything."

"No, the tariffs are going forward, on time, on schedule," Trump said Monday. He again suggested "reciprocal tariffs" will level the playing field and raise revenues for the U.S. Treasury, saying "our country will be extremely liquid, and rich again." & potentially kind of lonely.

Trump didn't specifically reference the CUSMA, as it's called in Canada, but he did trash-talk unspecified trade agreements Monday, saying, "I look at some of these agreements, I'd read 'em at night and say 'who would ever sign a thing like this?' "

(That would’ve been President Trump in 2019…🤫)

In the short term, Trump's comments set up "for another meeting on the brink" next week, said Volpe, as the Canadian government, premiers, and business, union and industry leaders try to figure out how to avoid the threats.
Be glad we aren't BRICS. 150%
 

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Let ne help you out. Every time Trump's says something truthful, the chimps in the retard media say he's lying. When he says crazy nonsensical shit the pimps push it as truth.

STOP LISTENING TO THE CHIMPS.
 
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Ron in Regina

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The chimps are fucking with your head.

Don't forget I'm an exporter.
I’m also involved in cross border trade (the transport of such) to some extent.

I’m in touch with customs Brokers on a regular basis also, and they don’t know what the hell is going on either, and all they know is that if/when reciprocal tariffs happen from Canada, CBSA & Canadian customs brokers will have 24 hours notice to have their poop in a group.
 

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I’m also involved in cross border trade (the transport of such) to some extent.

I’m in touch with customs Brokers on a regular basis also, and they don’t know what the hell is going on either, and all they know is that if/when reciprocal tariffs happen from Canada, CBSA & Canadian customs brokers will have 24 hours notice to have their poop in a group.
If I choose to sell malting barely in the US my selling price doesn't change nor does the demand.
 

Ron in Regina

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If I choose to sell malting barely in the US my selling price doesn't change nor does the demand.
But, if tariffed at whatever percentage you wish to throw at it as an import tariff, the importer has to pay the tariff at the time of crossing, or it doesn’t cross.

It’s not like it has no effect on anyone, & that importer has the pass that cost onto someone, like his customers, & he might even try and squeeze the producer to cover some of that cost as opposed to finding a cheaper source if one exists.

If these American import tariffs happen, & Canada then proceeds with reciprocal import tariffs, those would be collected upon with CARM or the goods don’t cross the border into Canada.
 

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But, if tariffed at whatever percentage you wish to throw at it as an import tariff, the importer has to pay the tariff at the time of crossing, or it doesn’t cross.

It’s not like it has no effect on anyone, & that importer has the pass that cost onto someone, like his customers, & he might even try and squeeze the producer to cover some of that cost as opposed to finding a cheaper source if one exists.

If these American import tariffs happen, & Canada then proceeds with reciprocal import tariffs, those would be collected upon with CARM or the goods don’t cross the border into Canada.
Canada is your problem not the US. What is your supplier going to do when you arent buying? Raise or lower prices to keep their sale in the black?
 
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Canada is your problem not the US. What is your supplier going to do when you arent buying? Raise or lower prices to keep their sale in the black?
Discount their units 10% & flood them into the American market, or try to, to compensate for Canada being about 10%-15% of the current North American market for these items….or scale back production by “at least” 10% across the board, or some combination of the two?

Canada reciprocating on tariffs would be my problem, & everyone (except the premier of Alberta) is for reciprocal tariffs if Trump throws out tariffs on Canada. Pretty much the same for every other country that Trump is threatening, except their eggs are probably in more baskets than the situation Canada is in with America at this point.

If a 25% tariff on malting barley makes your product unviable in the American market, & you had to find alternative markets (like Botswana or anywhere else across an ocean & on a different side of the globe), that wouldn’t affect your sales or sales price what so ever?
 

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Discount their units 10% & flood them into the American market, or try to, to compensate for Canada being about 10%-15% of the current North American market for these items….or scale back production by “at least” 10% across the board, or some combination of the two?

Canada reciprocating on tariffs would be my problem, & everyone (except the premier of Alberta) is for reciprocal tariffs if Trump throws out tariffs on Canada. Pretty much the same for every other country that Trump is threatening, except their eggs are probably in more baskets than the situation Canada is in with America at this point.

If a 25% tariff on malting barley makes your product unviable in the American market, & you had to find alternative markets (like Botswana or anywhere else across an ocean & on a different side of the globe), that wouldn’t affect your sales or sales price what so ever?
Like I've said repeatedly listen to Smith, she already knows the truth but the chimps aren't listening to her are they?
 
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Like I've said repeatedly listen to Smith, she already knows the truth but the chimps aren't listening to her are they?
Perhaps you could share this knowledge that Smith (& I’m assuming yourself) know with others because, frankly, I’m tired. Hell, the Newfoundland Premier could’ve been let in on this secret before he resigned today over this bullshit & crazy shifting goalposts.
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It’s becoming clear this was never over border security, as that’s irrelevant according to Trumps threats, etc…so is it purely over squeezing Canada further on trade relations and restrictions to further hamstring it, then blame it for being hamstrung…because that’s borderline retarded, so it almost makes sense after the last five weeks?

This sure as shit isn’t to improve unity (your union thing) with the US if it’s attacking all (most/many) of its allies on multiple fronts simultaneously, ‘cuz who wants to cozy up to the unmedicated schizophrenic Jekyll & Hyde nation, economically or otherwise?
 

Ron in Regina

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The White House has clarified (???) that North America-wide tariffs are not a done deal, as many news headlines suggested following remarks Monday by U.S. President Donald Trump.

Trump had been asked Monday whether he's proceeding with tariffs on Canada and Mexico, currently paused until March 4, and he replied: "The tariffs are going forward on time, on schedule," then went on to make vague complaints about unspecified abuses against the United States? Pick a fucking lane already…
 

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"The first round of tariffs, which the president initially directly tied to fixing what he condemned as an illegal influx of fentanyl and migrants coming across America's southern and northern borders,..."

Simple rebound. Start demanding Trump do something about all the illegals coming across the border into Canada AND the fucking DECADES of illegal guns and drugs flowing north. Or in earthier terms, clean up the dog shit in your yard before you complain about the state of my yard.