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I agree completely. I wish Obama had done this. . . I think it would have been done better.

But Trump won, fair and square, by the time-honoured method of appealing to the basest feelings and motivations of Da Peepul. We're stuck with it for four years or until the Grim Reaper casts his veto. In which case we get Just Dumb Vance (yay).

I fear the Democrats don't have a single leader smart enough and with sufficient love of country to sacrifice herself by using Trump as a marionette.

Nobody reads The Prince anymore.
Trouble is, Obummer caused a lot of the problems. Although he mostly just did as his wife directed. The Democratic party, like the Liberal party in Canada is no longer the same party with the same values as they were up to the early 2000s. Both have been overtaken by far left ideologues that figured out it was easier to take over an existing party than try and make a far left agenda party gain traction.
 

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Trouble is, Obummer caused a lot of the problems. Although he mostly just did as his wife directed. The Democratic party, like the Liberal party in Canada is no longer the same party with the same values as they were up to the early 2000s. Both have been overtaken by far left ideologues that figured out it was easier to take over an existing party than try and make a far left agenda party gain traction.
Yes, of course. You need somebody to hate.
 
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Trouble is, Obummer caused a lot of the problems. Although he mostly just did as his wife directed.

I'd ask if you were serious but I already know you think that's truth.

The Democratic party, like the Liberal party in Canada is no longer the same party with the same values as they were up to the early 2000s.

True 'nuff. Things changed after 9/11. And yes, that's when it all went to shit.

Both have been overtaken by far left ideologues that figured out it was easier to take over an existing party than try and make a far left agenda party gain traction.

If you are going to say that, then will you agree that the Republicans and Conservatives have been taken over by far right ideologues for the same reason?
 

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This is problematic.

I have known for decades that the Federal government is in need of a big shake-up. Every policy and program instantly gains a constituency that will not allow it to be shut down, regardless of how irrelevant it has become. It's a significant contributor to our debt.

Trump is breaking that mold.

He's doing it badly, with an eye to personal vengeance on those who have opposed him. . . but he's doing it.

Perhaps this is what it took. Probably, even. A dictatorial President with nothing to lose (term limited). And no politician ever has been any different: vengeful, touchy, and using any power granted against people who have pissed her off.

It may be that this is a Tom Sawyer moment. Those of you who read the book may remember that Tom conned the town boys into whitewashing a fence for him by presenting it as a desirable thing they they were not allowed to do. He faked reluctance to let them, and so got them into doing his chore for him.

Trump is "moving fast and breaking things." And so far the Democrats are looking awful conservative. . . shocked and outraged that the status quo is being challenged and changed.

I have a lot of specific problems with specific things he's doing, but all in all, I think that the destruction can be turned into demolition. If we're wise. Which we're not.

Still, interesting times, and maybe there'll be a few who have the sense and wit to get this rampaging pig in to harness shafts and use its energy to pull in useful directions. He's certainly stupid enough to be manipulated.

Is there a Democrat with the brains and balls and love of country to throw in with Trump and use his destructive energy positively, until the offended shriekers turf out said Democrat?

Naaa
 
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So you're saying this guy is stupid?

There's more common sense coming from him in his walk a talk than you've ever said, Tax. You must be jealous.
Any one paying attention on these boards knows Taxslave has never been a Trump supporter .
 
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I think if things were shaken up in the US with a different person there might be less issues. But Trump... the literal cult he has following him, plus his adoration of authoritarian regimes and extremists and obvious siding with said people over traditional allies...
You mean like the last 9 years in Canada? Like wanting to reward an islamo-nazi state that has been engaged in terrorism for the last 76 years with statehood? Like allowing Jewish-Canadians to be terrorized by "practitioners" of the "religion of peace"? Like allowing the "basic dictatorship" in China he admires so much to turn Canada into a 3rd country exporter and a fentanyl source country?

Honey, you've been living under the kind of leader you're whining about now for the last 9 years.
 

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You mean like the last 9 years in Canada?

Look, Jin, I won't argue with you that Canada has had issues the last 9 years, okay? How many times does it have to be said?

Like wanting to reward an islamo-nazi state

There is no such thing as islamo-nazi no matter how much you think there is.

that has been engaged in terrorism for the last 76 years with statehood?

If you mean Palestine, again, it's something I've commented on myself before and I am tired of repeating.

Like allowing Jewish-Canadians to be terrorized by "practitioners" of the "religion of peace"?

Blah, blah, see above.

Like allowing the "basic dictatorship" in China he admires so much to turn Canada into a 3rd country exporter and a fentanyl source country?

I don't like China's leadership. I think it's dangerous to do ANYTHING with them, even in trade, even 'legitimate'. I CERTAINLY am against giving/selling anything of Canada TO China, including any ins on our production of goods, companies, land. I think trusting China is a huge mistake.

As for fentanyl, you also won't have me disagree we need to do something about it.
Honey, you've been living under the kind of leader you're whining about now for the last 9 years.

Well, sugerplum, Trudeau is a lot of things, including an idiot, but he's NOTHING like Trump and to compare the two is monumentally STUPID. Funny how there's a Trump Derangement Syndrome; in Canada, it's a Trudeau Derangement Syndrome, and you have it bad.

There's one big difference between Trudeau and Trump that even you have to acknowledge (if you're being fucking honest), and that is, in the end, at least Trudeau STEPPED DOWN.

Trump will continue to be in power as long as he can, certainly he's got idiots around him who want him to stay in power and are working to do that.

Trump DOES have a cult following - again, if you're going to be fucking honest, you'd see it - and Trudeau does not have that.

So really? Fuck off with trying to equate the two; they are NOT the same, jackass.
 

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Look, Jin, I won't argue with you that Canada has had issues the last 9 years, okay? How many times does it have to be said?



There is no such thing as islamo-nazi no matter how much you think there is.



If you mean Palestine, again, it's something I've commented on myself before and I am tired of repeating.



Blah, blah, see above.



I don't like China's leadership. I think it's dangerous to do ANYTHING with them, even in trade, even 'legitimate'. I CERTAINLY am against giving/selling anything of Canada TO China, including any ins on our production of goods, companies, land. I think trusting China is a huge mistake.

As for fentanyl, you also won't have me disagree we need to do something about it.


Well, sugerplum, Trudeau is a lot of things, including an idiot, but he's NOTHING like Trump and to compare the two is monumentally STUPID. Funny how there's a Trump Derangement Syndrome; in Canada, it's a Trudeau Derangement Syndrome, and you have it bad.

There's one big difference between Trudeau and Trump that even you have to acknowledge (if you're being fucking honest), and that is, in the end, at least Trudeau STEPPED DOWN.

Trump will continue to be in power as long as he can, certainly he's got idiots around him who want him to stay in power and are working to do that.

Trump DOES have a cult following - again, if you're going to be fucking honest, you'd see it - and Trudeau does not have that.

So really? Fuck off with trying to equate the two; they are NOT the same, jackass.
Are you for real ? Trudeau has been mired in scandal for the whole of his political career . He enacted the emergency powers act to trample peaceful protesters and set the courts on them similar to the January six protesters in the States . And I notice he is still PM clinging onto power after he has announced his retirement. No matter how much you hate Trump look In the mirror at the failing state that is Canada , and lay the blame where it belongs , squarely at the feet of Justin Trudeau and the Liberal Party of Canada .

PS once Canada fails and breaks apart there will be no more equalization coming New Brunswicks way .
 
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Look, Jin, I won't argue with you that Canada has had issues the last 9 years, okay? How many times does it have to be said?



There is no such thing as islamo-nazi no matter how much you think there is.
Uh, yes there is. No matter how much you don't wanna believe it. In fact Palestine as well as the muslim brotherhood have a very clear and distinct connection to the former nazi Germany
Look, Jin, I won't argue with you that Canada has had issues the last 9 years, okay? How many times does it have to be said?



There is no such thing as islamo-nazi no matter how much you think there is.
Yep, there is Welcome to the real world.
If you mean Palestine, again, it's something I've commented on myself before and I am tired of repeating.



Blah, blah, see above.



I don't like China's leadership. I think it's dangerous to do ANYTHING with them, even in trade, even 'legitimate'. I CERTAINLY am against giving/selling anything of Canada TO China, including any ins on our production of goods, companies, land. I think trusting China is a huge mistake.
Uh oh, your "racism "is showing again. Funny how when I pointed out Chinese owned businesses on both ends of the Panama canal being problematic you called me a racist. So, clearly you can't keep your POV straight on anything and thus your stupidity simply isn't worth engaging in anymore. You can piss...right...off!
As for fentanyl, you also won't have me disagree we need to do something about it.


Well, sugerplum, Trudeau is a lot of things, including an idiot, but he's NOTHING like Trump and to compare the two is monumentally STUPID. Funny how there's a Trump Derangement Syndrome; in Canada, it's a Trudeau Derangement Syndrome, and you have it bad.

There's one big difference between Trudeau and Trump that even you have to acknowledge (if you're being fucking honest), and that is, in the end, at least Trudeau STEPPED DOWN
No he hasn't. He's still the PM. And the only reason he WILL step down is because his party is forcing him to after 10 long years. Seems like you expect Trump to step down after 10 days.
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Trump will continue to be in power as long as he can, certainly he's got idiots around him who want him to stay in power and are working to do that.
What do you think Trudeau was doing in the 2019 and 2021 elections? No shortage of idiots have been propping his ass up.
Trump DOES have a cult following - again, if you're going to be fucking honest, you'd see it - and Trudeau does not have that.
Nooo of course not. That's how he managed to remain the PM for 10 years despite a track record that makes his dad look like the best PM we ever had.
So really? Fuck off with trying to equate the two; they are NOT the same, jackass.
Yeah, they are. Egotistical and arrogant to the point of revulsion. Both think they're just the greatest thing that ever happened to their country. Both wanna be dictators. They both attack anyone who opposes them. They like threatening the media albeit Trudeau's administration is slightly more subtle about it. I mean Jesus Christ, Trudeau attempted to take total power for himself, TWICE!! Were you NOT paying attention? And did you see the result of the foreign interference inquiry? Seems people like you and I are to blame because the commission came out with several recommendations to throttle Canadian freedoms even further while doing absolutely nothing about the actual problem. Which means we can be reasonably sure some high-ranking Liberals were in fact compromised. I mean if nothing "disturbing" was uncovered then why attack Canadian's freedoms even more?

 
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Uh, yes there is. No matter how much you don't wanna believe it. In fact Palestine as well as the muslim brotherhood have a very clear and distinct connection to the former nazi Germany

Yep, there is Welcome to the real world.

You're stretching the truth - but then you'd deny what the reality is, I'm sure.


There WAS a connection, that was dissolved when the war broke out.

"One later British source claimed that in 1936 alone, Germany transferred over £5.000.[69] al-Banna and other members of the Brotherhood voiced admiration for aspects of Nazi ideology, including its militarism and its centralization revolving around a charismatic leader,[71] but opposed others like its racial policies and ethnic nationalism.[72] The outbreak of the war ended the relationship between Germany and the Muslim Brothers.[73] al-Banna denied that he had ever received German funding.[74]"

In 1948, al-Banna denounced fascism and militarism in his book Peace in Islam:

"Nazism came to power in Germany, Fascism in Italy and both Hitler and Mussolini began to force their people to conform to what they thought; unity, order, development, and power. Certainly, this system led the two countries to stability and a vital international role. This cultivated much hope, reawakened aspiration, and united the whole country under one leader. Then what happened? It became apparent that these seemingly powerful systems were a real disaster. The inspiration and aspirations of the people were shattered and the system of democracy did not lead to the empowerment of the people but to the establishment of chosen tyrants. Eventually after a deadly war in which innumerable men, women, and children died, these regimes collapsed."[85]

Of course, the Nazi's used to WORK with the Jews before the Final Solution:



But that's a complication people don't like to remember.


If you're going to claim that Palestine is damned for this history, then you'd best start denouncing other countries and people too:





And then there's how the US, Britain, France, Canada and other countries just... let Germany do what it wanted including the funding to Palestine so... we're to blame too, right?


Uh oh, your "racism "is showing again.

Despising the GOVERNMENT of a nation is "racism" now, is it?

Guess to you it is, since that's the whole claim for assholes like you calling me anti-Semitic as I don't like the current Israeli Government.

Funny how when I pointed out Chinese owned businesses on both ends of the Panama canal being problematic you called me a racist.

No.

I called you racist for your "HONK KONG" bullshit. Had you not repeated that phrase for HONG Kong I might have let it go as a typo or some bullshit, but since you did repeat it...

THAT'S why I called you a racist, you fucking idiot; and told you so.

So, clearly you can't keep your POV straight on anything and thus your stupidity simply isn't worth engaging in anymore. You can piss...right...off!

Translated: I can't defend a damned thing I say so I'm gonna act all mad and throw a fit and be a whiney little baby throwing a trantrum!

BTW, my POV is straight, it's you that keeps fucking it up.

No he hasn't. He's still the PM.

He will be stepping down once a new Leader is chosen for the Libs. Then an election will be called. Then there will be a new PM.

When he announced he's stepping down, that's it, there is no "Take backs". So yes, he HAS stepped down. He's only PM because there needs to be one until the leadership is decided and election called.

I suppose you'd be great if we HAD no PM right now though, right?


And the only reason he WILL step down is because his party is forcing him to after 10 long years.

No.

He's dropping out because he knows his party and the nation hate his goddamn ass and he got the hint, finally.

And he STILL is better than Trump because at least he IS LEAVING WHEN THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL.


Seems like you expect Trump to step down after 10 days.

Fuck no. Holy shit are you ever fucking dumb.

Trump is elected and he's there for 4 years, good or bad. Only way for him to get out is impeach or death.

But as I pointed out, there are people already looking to give him ANOTHER TERM (on top of his saying he would be looking at staying beyond 4 years)... which of course you totally ignored the first time...

What do you think Trudeau was doing in the 2019 and 2021 elections? No shortage of idiots have been propping his ass up.

Agreed; thank Gods I wasn't one of them.

But the same could be said of Harper, of Chretien, of... every political party we've ever had.

And it's STILL not the absolute Cult that supports Trump. Again, they are NOT the same; if you think they are you haven't been paying attention; hell, you probably don't even realize the reality of things in the US, stuck in your self-absorbia bubble that you are.

Nooo of course not.

Sarcasm - but I'll take it anyway; glad you agree :p

That's how he managed to remain the PM for 10 years despite a track record that makes his dad look like the best PM we ever had.

Pft; that's not why he was PM you moron.

He stayed PM because there was no other person in the other parties to run against him and win. He's PM because the policies of the other parties SUCK, he's PM because when compared to the CPC and NDP, he was the only one that Ontario fuckers "liked". People held their fucking noses and voted Liberal because the others were worse.

If Trudeau did have a cult like you suggest, why doesn't he have more power beyond a minority government for the past two fucking terms at a total of six fucking years?

If that's a cult then it's a piss poor one.
 

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Yeah, they are.

Your opinion.

Egotistical and arrogant to the point of revulsion.

Trump is MUCH more egotistical and arrogant and absolutely repulsive.

Trudeau is just a jackass.

Both think they're just the greatest thing that ever happened to their country.

Again, no comparison 'tween the two.

Trudeau is a jackass but not anywhere near Trump's level.

I mean, at least Trudeau hasn't molested the Canadian flag, hasn't claimed to BE the best thing to ever happen to his country.

Both wanna be dictators.

LMFAO.

Trudeau isn't a goddamn dictator, not even a wannabe you fucking dipstick.

They both attack anyone who opposes them.

Politicians always attack others who oppose them.

Trump has his cult go out and physically do so, repeatedly.

They like threatening the media albeit Trudeau's administration is slightly more subtle about it.

Where/when did he attack the media?

I mean Jesus Christ, Trudeau attempted to take total power for himself, TWICE!!

Total power, was it?

Were you NOT paying attention?

Yep and it was another reason I hated the jackass.

And did you see the result of the foreign interference inquiry?

I DID!

Seems people like you and I are to blame because the commission came out with several recommendations to throttle Canadian freedoms even further while doing absolutely nothing about the actual problem.

OMFG you're HILARIOUS...

And a conspiracy nut.

Cause it said no such thing.

Which means we can be reasonably sure some high-ranking Liberals were in fact compromised.

No, they weren't. In fact, NO ONE WAS... and if YOU had paid attention, you'd know that was one of the conclusions.

And it's obvious YOU didn't read it or at least get an unbiased break down of it at all.

I mean if nothing "disturbing" was uncovered then why attack Canadian's freedoms even more?

Because that's not happening.

Fucking hell, Jin; maybe you need to go offline, go touch grass, grow a brain, grow common sense - if your age isn't against you - and live in reality for a bit, before you stroke out or something.

Oh, and enjoy.

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Your opinion.



Trump is MUCH more egotistical and arrogant and absolutely repulsive.

Trudeau is just a jackass.



Again, no comparison 'tween the two.

Trudeau is a jackass but not anywhere near Trump's level.

I mean, at least Trudeau hasn't molested the Canadian flag, hasn't claimed to BE the best thing to ever happen to his country.



LMFAO.

Trudeau isn't a goddamn dictator, not even a wannabe you fucking dipstick.



Politicians always attack others who oppose them.

Trump has his cult go out and physically do so, repeatedly.



Where/when did he attack the media?



Total power, was it?



Yep and it was another reason I hated the jackass.



I DID!



OMFG you're HILARIOUS...

And a conspiracy nut.

Cause it said no such thing.



No, they weren't. In fact, NO ONE WAS... and if YOU had paid attention, you'd know that was one of the conclusions.

And it's obvious YOU didn't read it or at least get an unbiased break down of it at all.



Because that's not happening.

Fucking hell, Jin; maybe you need to go offline, go touch grass, grow a brain, grow common sense - if your age isn't against you - and live in reality for a bit, before you stroke out or something.

Oh, and enjoy.

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