It's Climate Change I tell'ya!! IT'S CLIMATE CHANGE!!

Dixie Cup

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There'd be less damage if governments actually activated the activities that are known to mitigate the fires, especially in California where these fires happen each & every year. The stupidity is astonishing!!
 
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Ron in Regina

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You sound a little more like Trump every day.
Lots of Forest in Alberta (Jasper burned this year due to poor forest management on top of other factors, like invasive bugs).

Is it true that eucalyptus is a really common ornamental tree in Los Angeles? I hear once those things mature they’re not something you want really close to your house.
 
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Tecumsehsbones

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Lots of Forest in Alberta (Jasper burned this year due to poor forest management on top of other factors, like invasive bugs).

Is it true that eucalyptus is a really common ornamental tree in Los Angeles? I hear once those things mature they’re not something you want really close to your house.
Not sure, but it wouldn't surprise me. LA's climate would be friendly to eucalyptus.

By the way, "LA" is the most extreme contraction you ever saw. 67 letters into two. The full name is El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Angeles de Porciúncula.
 
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Ron in Regina

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Not sure, but it wouldn't surprise me. LA's climate would be friendly to eucalyptus.
"[Los Angeles] already has a naturally fire adapted flora — nothing like eucalyptus, but they have plenty of shrubs and trees that are adapted to burning, so it's a highly fire prone landscape anyway” because…?
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This isn’t the cause, just a contributing factor. Mature trees bark is extremely flammable too. Maybe the wrong trees to line residential streets through. Look cool though.

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Scientists drill nearly 2.8 km down to pull 1.2 million-year-old ice core from Antarctic
Author of the article:Associated Press
Associated Press
Paolo Santalucia
Published Jan 09, 2025 • 2 minute read

An international team of scientists announced Thursday they’ve successfully drilled one of the oldest ice cores yet, penetrating nearly 2.8 kilometres to Antarctic bedrock to reach ice they say is at least 1.2 million years old.


Analysis of the ancient ice is expected to show how Earth’s atmosphere and climate have evolved. That should provide insight into how Ice Age cycles have changed, and may help in understanding how atmospheric carbon changed climate, they said.

“Thanks to the ice core we will understand what has changed in terms of greenhouse gases, chemicals and dusts in the atmosphere,” said Carlo Barbante, an Italian glaciologist and coordinator of Beyond EPICA, the project to obtain the core. Barbante also directs the Polar Science Institute at Italy’s National Research Council.

The same team previously drilled a core about 800,000 years old. The latest drilling went 2.8 kilometres deep, with a team of 16 scientists and support personnel drilling each summer over four years in average temperatures of about minus-35 Celsius (minus-25.6 Fahrenheit).



Italian researcher Federico Scoto was among the glaciologists and technicians who completed the drilling at the beginning of January at a location called Little Dome C, near Concordia Research Station.

“It was a great a moment for us when we reached the bedrock,” Scoto said. Isotope analysis gave the ice’s age as at least 1.2 million years old, he said.

Both Barbante and Scoto said that thanks to the analysis of the ice core of the previous Epica campaign they have assessed that concentrations of greenhouse gases, such as carbon dioxide and methane, even during the warmest periods of the last 800,000 years, have never exceeded the levels seen since the Industrial Revolution began.

“Today we are seeing carbon dioxide levels that are 50% above the highest levels we’ve had over the last 800,000 years,” Barbante said.


The European Union funded Beyond EPICA (European Project for Ice Coring in Antarctica) with support from nations across the continent. Italy is coordinating the project.

The announcement was exciting to Richard Alley, a climate scientist at Penn State who was not involved with the project and who was recently awarded the National Medal of Science for his career studying ice sheets.

Alley said advancements in studying ice cores are important because they help scientists better understand the climate conditions of the past and inform their understanding of humans’ contributions to climate change in the present. He added that reaching the bedrock holds added promise because scientists may learn more about Earth’s history not directly related to the ice record itself.

“This is truly, truly, amazingly fantastic,” Alley said. “They will learn wonderful things.”

— Associated Press writer Melina Walling contributed from Chicago. Santalucia reported from Rome.
 
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Earth records hottest year ever with jump so big it breached key threshold
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Seth Borenstein
Published Jan 09, 2025 • 4 minute read
Earth recorded its hottest year ever in 2024, with such a big jump that the planet temporarily passed a major climate threshold.
Earth recorded its hottest year ever in 2024, with such a big jump that the planet temporarily passed a major climate threshold, several weather monitoring agencies announced Friday.


Last year’s global average temperature easily passed 2023’s record heat and kept pushing even higher. It surpassed the long-term warming limit of 1.5 C since the late 1800s that was called for by the 2015 Paris climate pact, according to the European Commission’s Copernicus Climate Service, the United Kingdom’s Meteorology Office and Japan’s weather agency.

The European team calculated 1.6 C of warming. Japan found 1.57 C and the British 1.53 C in releases of data co-ordinated to early Friday morning European time.

American monitoring teams — NASA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the private Berkeley Earth — were to release their figures later Friday but all will likely show record heat for 2024, European scientists said. The six groups compensate for data gaps in observations that go back to 1850 — in different ways, which is why numbers vary slightly.


“The primary reason for these record temperatures is the accumulation of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere” from the burning of coal, oil and gas, said Samantha Burgess, strategic climate lead at Copernicus. “As greenhouse gases continue to accumulate in the atmosphere, temperatures continue to increase, including in the ocean, sea levels continue to rise, and glaciers and ice sheets continue to melt.”



Last year eclipsed 2023’s temperature in the European database by an eighth of a degree Celsius. That’s an unusually large jump; until the last couple of super-hot years, global temperature records were exceeded only by hundredths of a degree, scientists said.


The last 10 years are the 10 hottest on record and are likely the hottest in 125,000 years, Burgess said.

July 10 was the hottest day recorded by humans, with the globe averaging 17.16 C, Copernicus found.

By far the biggest contributor to record warming is the burning of fossil fuels, several scientists said. A temporary natural El Nino warming of the central Pacific added a small amount and an undersea volcanic eruption in 2022 ended up cooling the atmosphere because it put more reflecting particles in the atmosphere as well as water vapor, Burgess said.

Alarm bells are ringing
“This is a warning light going off on the Earth’s dashboard that immediate attention is needed,” said University of Georgia meteorology professor Marshall Shepherd. “Hurricane Helene, floods in Spain and the weather whiplash fueling wildfires in California are symptoms of this unfortunate climate gear shift. We still have a few gears to go.”


“Climate change-related alarm bells have been ringing almost constantly, which may be causing the public to become numb to the urgency, like police sirens in New York City,” Woodwell Climate Research Center scientist Jennifer Francis said. “In the case of the climate, though, the alarms are getting louder, and the emergencies are now way beyond just temperature.”


The world incurred $140 billion in climate-related disaster losses last year — third highest on record — with North America especially hard hit, according to a report by the insurance firm Munich Re.

“The acceleration of global temperature increases means more damage to property and impacts on human health and the ecosystems we depend on,” said University of Arizona water scientist Kathy Jacobs.


World breaches major threshold
This is the first time any year passed the 1.5 C threshold, except for a 2023 measurement by Berkeley Earth, which was originally funded by philanthropists who were skeptical of global warming.

Scientists were quick to point out that the 1.5 C goal is for long-term warming, now defined as a 20-year average. Warming since pre-industrial times over the long term is now at 1.3 C.

“The 1.5 C threshold isn’t just a number — it’s a red flag. Surpassing it even for a single year shows how perilously close we are to breaching the limits set by the Paris Agreement,” Northern Illinois University climate scientist Victor Gensini said in an email. A massive 2018 United Nations study found that keeping Earth’s temperature rise below 1.5 C could save coral reefs from going extinct, keep massive ice sheet loss in Antarctica at bay and prevent many people’s death and suffering.


Francis called the threshold “dead in the water.”

Burgess called it extremely likely that Earth will overshoot the 1.5 C threshold, but called the Paris Agreement “extraordinarily important international policy” that nations around the world should remain committed to.

More warming likely
European and British calculations figure with a cooling La Nina instead of last year’s warming El Nino, 2025 is likely to be not quite as hot as 2024. They predict it will turn out to be the third warmest. However, the first six days of January — despite frigid temperatures in the U.S. East — averaged slightly warmer and are the hottest start to a year yet, according to Copernicus data.

Scientists remain split on whether global warming is accelerating.

There’s not enough data to see an acceleration in atmospheric warming, but the heat content of the oceans seem to be not just rising but going up at a faster rate, said Carlo Buontempo, Copernicus’ director.

“We are facing a very new climate and new challenges — climate challenges that our society is not prepared for,” Buontempo said.

This is all like watching the end of “a dystopian sci-fi film,” said University of Pennsylvania climate scientist Michael Mann. “We are now reaping what we’ve sown.”