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Tehran and Iran-aligned groups such as Hamas…
…and Hezbollah…
…have accused Israel of killing Haniyeh on July 31 in the Iranian capital. His death was one in a series of killings of senior Hamas figures as the war in Gaza due to the Iranian funded Hamas attack into Israel on Oct 7th 2023 which triggered this current war between Hamas and Israel nears its 11th month.

Israeli officials have not claimed responsibility.

The Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps' top Commander Hossein Salami…
…on Monday repeated the elite group's threat that Israel "will receive punishment in due time".
Built up over decades of Iranian support, the Axis ("Axis of Resistance") includes not only Hamas, the Palestinian Islamist group that ignited the Gaza war by attacking Israel on Oct. 7, but also the Hezbollah movement in Lebanon, Yemen's Houthi militia, and various Shi'ite Muslim armed groups in Iraq and Syria.
In September 2023, only a week before Hamas attack on Israel, United States National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan stated that the Middle East ‘is quieter today than it has been in two decades.’

By January 2024, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken had to take a very different stance, calling it ‘an incredibly volatile time in the Middle East’. He argued that a situation as dangerous as the one currently seen across the region has not been experienced ‘since at least 1973, and arguably even before that.’

While intense fighting has been taking place in Gaza since Hamas’ attack on Israel in October 2023, members of Iran’s ‘Axis of Resistance’ have also increased their attacks. US military installations in the Middle East have been attacked regularly by various Iranian-backed groups, with a drone strike on January 28th, 2024, marking the first time US soldiers were killed since the Israel-Hamas war broke out.

Iran insists that these groups are ‘independent’ in decision and action and has repeatedly declared that it was not seeking an ‘expansion’ of conflict in the Middle East, while also warning that it will respond ‘forcefully’ to any attack inside its borders. Nevertheless, Iran has for decades been funding, arming, and training its proxy groups and its direct or indirect involvement is at the heart of geopolitical instability in the Middle East.
Iran's supreme leader Ali Khamenei has called for the Israeli state to be abolished and replaced with a single state that gives equal voting rights to Muslims, Christians and Jews. Khamenei has stressed the removal of Israel does not mean the removal of Jewish people.

Islamist Palestinian organizations like Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad consistently promote the goal of Israel's elimination, as evidenced by their charters, statements, and actions, such as the 2023 Hamas attack on Israel. Instances of media and propaganda within Palestinian discourse also contribute to expressions advocating for the destruction of Israel.

The political slogan "From the river to the sea" has been linked to demands for a Palestinian state and the removal of a majority of its Jewish population, with ongoing debates about its implications and potential classification as antisemitic or hate speech.

The history of calls for the destruction of Israel is rooted in the prelude to its establishment. Leaders such as Azzam Pasha of the Arab League warned of a "war of extermination" in the event that a Jewish state was established.
 

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The history of calls for the destruction of Israel is rooted in the prelude to its establishment. Leaders such as Azzam Pasha of the Arab League warned of a "war of extermination" in the event that a Jewish state was established.
Weird. Only 55% of people who identify as Jewish in Israel are Jewish. 45% just self-identify as Jewish.
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Does one have to be Jewish to live in Israel? The religious affiliation of the Israeli population as of 2022 was 73.6% Jewish, 18.1% Muslim, 1.9% Christian, and 1.6% Druze. The remaining 4.8% included faiths such as Samaritanism and Baháʼí, as well as "religiously unclassified".
 

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Tehran and Iran-aligned groups such as Hamas…
…and Hezbollah…
…have accused Israel of killing Haniyeh on July 31 in the Iranian capital. His death was one in a series of killings of senior Hamas figures as the war in Gaza due to the Iranian funded Hamas attack into Israel on Oct 7th 2023 which triggered this current war between Hamas and Israel nears its 11th month.

Israeli officials have not claimed responsibility.

The Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps' top Commander Hossein Salami…
…on Monday repeated the elite group's threat that Israel "will receive punishment in due time".
Built up over decades of Iranian support, the Axis ("Axis of Resistance") includes not only Hamas, the Palestinian Islamist group that ignited the Gaza war by attacking Israel on Oct. 7, but also the Hezbollah movement in Lebanon, Yemen's Houthi militia, and various Shi'ite Muslim armed groups in Iraq and Syria.
In September 2023, only a week before Hamas attack on Israel, United States National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan stated that the Middle East ‘is quieter today than it has been in two decades.’

By January 2024, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken had to take a very different stance, calling it ‘an incredibly volatile time in the Middle East’. He argued that a situation as dangerous as the one currently seen across the region has not been experienced ‘since at least 1973, and arguably even before that.’

While intense fighting has been taking place in Gaza since Hamas’ attack on Israel in October 2023, members of Iran’s ‘Axis of Resistance’ have also increased their attacks. US military installations in the Middle East have been attacked regularly by various Iranian-backed groups, with a drone strike on January 28th, 2024, marking the first time US soldiers were killed since the Israel-Hamas war broke out.

Iran insists that these groups are ‘independent’ in decision and action and has repeatedly declared that it was not seeking an ‘expansion’ of conflict in the Middle East, while also warning that it will respond ‘forcefully’ to any attack inside its borders. Nevertheless, Iran has for decades been funding, arming, and training its proxy groups and its direct or indirect involvement is at the heart of geopolitical instability in the Middle East.
Iran's supreme leader Ali Khamenei has called for the Israeli state to be abolished and replaced with a single state that gives equal voting rights to Muslims, Christians and Jews. Khamenei has stressed the removal of Israel does not mean the removal of Jewish people.

Islamist Palestinian organizations like Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad consistently promote the goal of Israel's elimination, as evidenced by their charters, statements, and actions, such as the 2023 Hamas attack on Israel. Instances of media and propaganda within Palestinian discourse also contribute to expressions advocating for the destruction of Israel.

The political slogan "From the river to the sea" has been linked to demands for a Palestinian state and the removal of a majority of its Jewish population, with ongoing debates about its implications and potential classification as antisemitic or hate speech.

The history of calls for the destruction of Israel is rooted in the prelude to its establishment. Leaders such as Azzam Pasha of the Arab League warned of a "war of extermination" in the event that a Jewish state was established.
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Weird. Only 55% of people who identify as Jewish in Israel are Jewish. 45% just self-identify as Jewish.
Does one have to be Jewish to live in Israel? The religious affiliation of the Israeli population as of 2022 was 73.6% Jewish, 18.1% Muslim, 1.9% Christian, and 1.6% Druze. The remaining 4.8% included faiths such as Samaritanism and Baháʼí, as well as "religiously unclassified".
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Jew isnt a race. Catholic isnt a race. Buddhist isnt a race. Hindu isnt a race...etc etc etc.
 

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Iran police shot woman while trying to seize her car over hijab law violation, activists say
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Published Aug 15, 2024 • 4 minute read

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — On a darkened road beside the Caspian Sea, Iranian police officers opened fire last month on a 31-year-old woman who had tried to speed away likely knowing they wanted to seize her vehicle.


Police had been ordered to impound her car, activists say, because of an earlier violation of Iran’s headscarf law for showing her hair in public while driving.

Now unable to walk and confined to a bed at a police hospital, Arezou Badri — a mother of two — is the latest casualty of Iran’s renewed crackdown over headscarves, or hijabs. Her shooting occurred nearly two years after 22-year-old Mahsa Amini died while in police custody over an alleged headscarf violation, sparking nationwide protests over women’s rights and against the country’s theocracy.

As the Sept. 16 anniversary of Amini’s death approaches, Iran’s new reformist President Masoud Pezeshkian has promised to ease enforcement of the headscarf law. But the murky details of Badri’s shooting and a recent video of a girl being manhandled in the streets of Tehran show the dangers still lurking for those willing to disobey it.


“They have elevated it to the most serious crime, where the police is allowed basically to shoot to kill,” said Hadi Ghaemi, executive director of the New York-based Center for Human Rights in Iran. “That’s really a war on women.”

Badri’s shooting occurred around 11 p.m. on July 22 along a coastal road in Iran’s northern Mazandaran province as she drove home from a friend’s house with her sister, activists say. A brief account published by Iran’s state-run IRNA news agency quoted police Col. Ahmad Amini as saying patrol officers had ordered a vehicle with tinted windows to stop, but that it didn’t. It made no mention of the hijab violation or impound notice.

Officers appear to have first fired at Badri’s car’s tires, according to the group Human Rights Activists in Iran, which spoke to people with knowledge of the shooting. As Badri continued driving, officers fired into the vehicle, the group said; the gunfire pierced her lung and damaged her spine.


Under Iranian law, police must fire a warning shot, then aim to wound below the waist before taking a potentially fatal shot at a suspect’s head or chest. If the suspect is driving, officers typically aim first for the tires.

Why police initially stopped Badri’s car remains unclear, though activists blame it on the impound alert over the hijab violation. It’s also unknown whether any police vehicle at the scene had a camera that recorded the shooting or if any officer there wore a body camera.

There are no public statistics of fatal police shootings in Iran. Police firearms training and tactics vary widely, as some officers face more paramilitary duties in areas like Iran’s restive Sistan and Baluchestan provinces.


Iran’s Interior Ministry, which oversees the country’s police, did not respond to questions about the shooting from The Associated Press.

Authorities are holding Badri at a police hospital in Tehran under tight security, restricting her family’s visits and stopping them from taking photographs of her, activists say. Despite that, an image of Badri was published by the BBC this week, highlighting her case.

“She has no sensation from the waist down and doctors have said that it will be clear in the coming months whether she is completely paralyzed,” said one activist in Iran, who requested anonymity for fear of reprisal.

The hijab became a focal point of demonstrations after the death of Amini in 2022. She died after being arrested for not wearing her headscarf to the liking of police. A United Nations panel has found that Amini died as a result of “physical violence” used against her by the state.


Amini’s death sparked months of protests and a security crackdown that killed more than 500 people and led to the detention of more than 22,000. After the mass demonstrations, police dialed down enforcement of hijab laws, but it ramped up again in April under what authorities called the Noor — or “Light” — Plan.

The hijab crackdown remains widely discussed in Iran, even as police and state media rarely report on it. Many women continue to wear their hijabs loosely or leave them draped around their shoulders while walking in Tehran. Women driving without wearing hijabs are believed to have been tracked via surveillance camera technology provided by Chinese firms, matching their faces against a government-maintained photo database, Ghaemi said.


If they are stopped, that can lead to physical altercations between women and the police.

Surveillance footage published last week by the Iranian reformist news website Ensaf showed a 14-year-old girl manhandled by the morality police in Tehran. Her mother described her daughter’s head as being rammed into an electrical box, a female officer pulling her hair and another putting their foot on her neck. Police described the officers’ behavior as unprofessional, but also accused the girl of using bad language.

“I saw my daughter with a wounded face, swollen lips, a bruised neck, torn clothes and she couldn’t even speak,” her mother, Maryam Abbasi, told the website. “Her eyes were so swollen from crying that they wouldn’t open.”
 

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Although Hamas has made no effort to hide its genocidal intentions — and, in fact, actively shares it with anyone who will listen — far too many news outlets in Canada and abroad have framed the terrorist group as a “resistance” movement, whose dispute with Israel is purely territorial in nature, not existential. In this view, Jerusalem simply needs to vacate some of its historic lands and the conflict will abate.

This is pure fantasy. Hamas, in both deed and word, makes clear that it will stop at nothing until the State of Israel — home to nearly half the world’s Jews — is utterly destroyed. Hamas makes no distinction between civilians and combatants, nor between children and adults: they are all marked for death in the eyes of this terrorist group.
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Hamas is just one cog in a much larger wheel, all originating in the Islamic Republic of Iran, which arms, funds and trains terrorist groups, including Lebanon’s Hezbollah and the Houthis in Yemen.

There is, quite literally, absolutely nothing Israel can do that would possibly pacify Hamas, but that has not stopped countless pundits, commentators and columnists from demanding that Israel effectively surrender to a demonic death cult that seeks the genocide of millions of people.

Over the last 19 years, since Israel’s unilateral withdrawal from Gaza, which left zero Israelis in the coastal enclave, Hamas’s rocket capacity has drastically improved; its tunnel system, which has been used to smuggle in huge amounts of weapons, is a marvel of engineering that rivals any world-class subway system in length; and the group boasted tens of thousands of active fighters prior to its October 7 massacre.

Against such a fanatical enemy, driven not just by its extremist religious ideology, but a growing military ability, Israel simply has no choice but to combat Hamas, and to seek its destruction. Over the past 11 months, Israel has sought to do just that, while also setting a new standard in the protection of civilians in war, despite Hamas’s heinous use of its own people as human shields — points that have been widely ignored by the Canadian media.
The violent threat of radical Islam is hardly a problem isolated to Israel. In recent weeks, an Islamic State plot to attack a Taylor Swift concert in Austria was foiled, suspected terrorists were arrested in Richmond Hill, Ont., allegedly preventing an imminent attack, and an Islamic State terrorist murdered multiple people in Germany. The list goes on.
 

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Hamas is just one cog in a much larger wheel, all originating in the Islamic Republic of Iran, which arms, funds and trains terrorist groups, including Lebanon’s Hezbollah and the Houthis in Yemen.
In fairness, you could make the case (and many have done so) that Israel is nothing but a foothold in the Middle East for the Western Powers, primarily the US, Britain, and their wannabes in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and Western Europe.

Those Western Powers don't have a spotless human rights record either.
 
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In fairness, you could make the case (and many have done so) that Israel is nothing but a foothold in the Middle East for the Western Powers, primarily the US, Britain, and their wannabes in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and Western Europe.

Those Western Powers don't have a spotless human rights record either.
Very true.
 

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In fairness, you could make the case (and many have done so) that Israel is nothing but a foothold in the Middle East for the Western Powers, primarily the US, Britain, and their wannabes in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and Western Europe.

Those Western Powers don't have a spotless human rights record either.
In order to justify the foothold it previously was Soviet encroachment, today's excuse is Islam.

If Islam was hellbent on killing all the Jews in Israel it would have happened long long ago.
 

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If Islam was hellbent on killing all the Jews in Israel it would have happened long long ago.
Having 1/2 the world’s Jews not exist in Israel doesn’t necessarily mean killing them all, it means making them go away in whatever means necessary…or something along those lines??? is that a fair assessment in a very vague questioning statement?
 

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Having 1/2 the world’s Jews not exist in Israel doesn’t necessarily mean killing them all, it means making them go away in whatever means necessary…or something along those lines??? is that a fair assessment in a very vague questioning statement?
A little over a quarter of the Jews. 45% of Israel is secular.

What's stopping 1.9 Billion Muzzies from getting rid of 10 million globally?

A flimsy myth of it being the end all be all?
 

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A little over a quarter of the Jews. 45% of Israel is secular.

What's stopping 1.9 Billion Muzzies from getting rid of 10 million globally?

A flimsy myth of it being the end all be all?
1) currently, the US
2) haven’t managed it in 75 years, so far
3) do is matter (keep in mind. This question is coming from the non-religious guy, so an actual serious question), does it matter if 45% of whatever are secular?
 

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1) currently, the US
2) haven’t managed it in 75 years, so far
3) do is matter (keep in mind. This question is coming from the non-religious guy, so an actual serious question), does it matter if 45% of whatever are secular?
1.How is the US stopping 1.9B from a single, unifying goal?

2. Why not?

3. Jews who claim to be Jews but aren't shouldn't have an issue with not being a target.
 

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(“Death to Israel! Death to America! Can we get a Death to Ukraine in the room?!!)

"We are not hostile towards the U.S., they should end their hostility towards us by showing their goodwill in practice," said Pezeshkian, adding: "We are brothers with the Americans as well."
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Russia's top security official Sergei Shoigu arrived in the Iranian capital days after meeting North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in Pyongyang. More than two and a half years into its conflict with Ukraine, Moscow has been seeking to develop ties with the two nations, both hostile to the United States.

"My government will seriously follow ongoing cooperation and measures to upgrade the level of relations between the two countries," the state IRNA news agency quoted Iranian president Masoud Pezeshkian as telling Shoigu, Secretary of Russia's Security Council.

The United States views Moscow's growing relationships with Pyongyang and Tehran with concern and says both are supplying Russia with ballistic missiles for use in the conflict in Ukraine.