The carbon tax is leaving B.C. cold

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The carbon tax is leaving B.C. cold


We’ve just weathered a record-breaking cold snap in British Columbia and the provincial government was there to tax us for the sin of staying warm.

Prince George endured minus 44 degrees Celsius, Kamloops gritted its teeth at minus 23C, and even the relatively mild Fraser Valley woke up to a pipe-freezing minus 29C with the wind chill. The weather shut down the Trans-Canada Highway with a total white-out at Chilliwack.

There were Vancouverites pushing their Aston Martins out of snow banks. Even the Sky Train shut down for a spell.



https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/sims-the-carbon-tax-is-leaving-b-c-cold
 

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Earlier Thursday, federal NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said his party is coming up with a climate plan that may scrap the policy altogether if the party forms government…which is easy to do when you know that you will never form government, and would be hard-pressed to even be the opposition, & not just the opposition to the opposition in a non-coalition coalition that’s definitely not a coalition-type coalition. Below is the current prediction federally:
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But…but David Eby (current premiere of British Columbia) argued that large increases to the federal tax, now $80 a tonne as of April 1, is “unsustainable,” as is the federal Liberal’s favouritism of the Maritimes by exempting home heating oil, but not other heat sources such as natural gas, which are more prevalent in B.C.
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(Opposition critics were quick to jump on the decision, with B.C. Conservative Leader John Rustad claiming victory after months of promising that one of the first things he would do if elected would be to scrap the carbon tax

As recently as April, Eby was defending the need for a provincial tax on pollution after a letter from Poilievre urging B.C. to join seven other provinces in opposition to the April 1 increase to $80 a tonne.

The tax was initially brought in by the B.C. Liberals under Gordon Campbell in 2008, a government in which John Rustad served as an MLA. It was opposed by the NDP in 2009 before they ultimately embraced it.

Kinew (premier of Manitoba) said Thursday that he is in alignment with Eby on the issue, having asked Ottawa for an exemption from carbon pricing in the spring.
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Premier David Eby dropped a bombshell on Thursday, announcing he will get rid of B.C.’s consumer carbon tax if Ottawa also drops the federal tax that would take over if there wasn’t a provincial tax.

“A lot of British Columbians are struggling with affordability,” Eby said.

“The political consensus we had in B.C. has been badly damaged by the approach of the federal government, so if it decides to remove the legal backstop requiring us to have a consumer carbon tax in B.C., we will end the consumer carbon tax in B.C.,” he said at an event in Vancouver alongside his wife, Cailey Lynch, and Manitoba Premier Wab Kinew.
 

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Premier David Eby dropped a bombshell on Thursday, announcing he will get rid of B.C.’s consumer carbon tax if Ottawa also drops the federal tax that would take over if there wasn’t a provincial tax.

“A lot of British Columbians are struggling with affordability,” Eby said.

“The political consensus we had in B.C. has been badly damaged by the approach of the federal government, so if it decides to remove the legal backstop requiring us to have a consumer carbon tax in B.C., we will end the consumer carbon tax in B.C.,” he said at an event in Vancouver alongside his wife, Cailey Lynch, and Manitoba Premier Wab Kinew.
But who will think of the environment? Didn't BC have a carbon tax before the federal government did? I heard it was a great success, and it funded environmental projects in BC.

I wish that I could stand next to Guibeault and watch the vein pop in his head every time another left-winger admits that the carbon tax is a boondoggle.
 

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Some common myths about carbon taxes.

1) They reduce carbon emissions.- Well no, they actually don't. There is no concrete evidence that carbon taxes reduce emissions.
2) Canada's carbon tax is revenue neutral because they gimmie a carbon refund.- No, that's not how revenue neutral works in this instance. Revenue neutral means there's no change in the amount of revenue flowing into or out of the tax coffers.
3) They create jobs.- If carbon taxes created jobs, they would be contributing to carbon emissions as no businesses large enough to make the "they create jobs" claim meaningful are going to produce emissions either directly or indirectly.
4) In Canada you get back more than you pay out.- Uh no, you don't. This year the average Alberta household will pay $1100 more than they get back. The average NB household will pay around $400 more than they get back. The average Ontario household will pay $900 more than they get back. I don't imagine the scenario is any different for the people in the other provinces forced to play Trudeau's little game of "pay me to fuck you while I tell you I'm doing you a favour".
 
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It must be disheartening to be David Eby and the B.C. NDP these days. Justin Trudeau is sending 22,000 asylum seekers to B.C. in the midst of a housing crisis and Jagmeet Singh has just announced he (probably) wants to axe the carbon tax. How B.C. Conservative leader John Rustad managed to get Trudeau and Singh to campaign for him is a mystery that may never be solved, but we should tip our hat to Rustad’s political deftness.
The solution to NDP woes, however, is not to paint the mild-mannered Rustad as a Trumpian figure of chaos. A better tactic might be to address hospital closures on long weekends, drug overdose deaths and B.C.’s skyrocketing deficit, which will come in at $9 billion this year. That’s $4 billion higher than the previous record of $5 billion set during Covid. This is the result of a government that ditched John Horgan’s pragmatism for Eby’s activism. Voters are also unlikely to swap back to a party now painting itself as opposed to a carbon tax and will likely give Conservatives credit for its death.
 

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"The solution to NDP woes, however, is not to paint the mild-mannered Rustad as a Trumpian figure of chaos. A better tactic might be to address hospital closures on long weekends,"

Nah, Jagoff Singh is using health care to attack Pierre. At the press conference he himself called where he wouldn't answer any questions substantively except to repeat over and over, "We tore up the agreement with the Liberals" ad nauseum, he did try to attack Pierre for planning to do away with public health care. Which is funny because the Fed has no control over any of that.

But hey, all the "disinformation" Jusmeet Singhdeau insist they keep on protecting us from, eh?
 
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But who will think of the environment? Didn't BC have a carbon tax before the federal government did? I heard it was a great success, and it funded environmental projects in BC.

I wish that I could stand next to Guibeault and watch the vein pop in his head every time another left-winger admits that the carbon tax is a boondoggle.
We did. It was basically a vote buyer by what the NDPee like to call a right wing government. It did work at the time, only because the carbon scam tax was offset by reductions in other taxes, making it revenue neutral from a government perspective. Of course when we got saddled with another NDPee government, it quickly became a cash cow, along with over 20 new and improved taxes.
Eby said he would only remove our carbon scam tax if turdOWE so fit to allow it, while Rustad said fuck the feds, we will remove the tax. This is also what caused the split in the BC Liberal party, of which Rustad was a member before the current leader Kevin Falcon gave him the boot for wanting to axe the tax. Falcon was instrumental in imposing the tax on us in the first place. That is how Rustad became leader of the all but forgotten provincial COnservative party.
 
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