BREAKING!! TRUMP HAS BEEN SHOT

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Trump rally gunman looked online for information about Kennedy assassination, FBI director says
Author of the article:Associated Press
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Published Jul 24, 2024 • Last updated 1 day ago • 3 minute read

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FBI Director Christopher Wray testifies before a House committee about the July 13 shooting at a campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, Wednesday, July 24, 2024, on Capitol Hill.
WASHINGTON (AP) — The gunman in the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump is believed to have done a Google search one week before the shooting of “How far away was Oswald from Kennedy?” FBI Director Christopher Wray said Wednesday, revealing new details about a suspect he said had taken a keen interest in public figures but had otherwise not left behind clear clues of an ideological motive.


The search, recovered from a laptop tied to 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks, is a reference to Lee Harvey Oswald, the shooter who killed President John F. Kennedy from a sniper’s perch in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963.

The revelation to the House Judiciary Committee was part of a collection of new details offered by Wray about the July 13 shooting at a Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. The FBI’s investigation has thrust the bureau into a political maelstrom months before the presidential election, with lawmakers and the public pressing for details about what may have motivated Crooks in the most serious attempt to assassinate a president or presidential candidate since President Ronald Reagan was shot in 1981.


The FBI has built out a detailed timeline of Crooks’ movements and online activity, but the precise motive — or why Trump was singled out — remains elusive, Wray said.

“A lot of the usual repositories of information have not yielded, anything notable in terms of motive or ideology,” Wray said. He did note that Crooks had grown interested in public officials — besides Trump, Crooks also had photos on his phone of Democratic President Joe Biden and other prominent figures — and in the days before the shooting had appeared particularly consumed by Trump, the Republicans’ White House nominee.

Wray also said that Crooks, about two hours before the shooting, had flown a drone about 200 yards (180 meters) from the rally stage where Trump would later stand and that Crooks used the device to livestream and watch footage. The use of the drone so close the rally site just hours before Trump took the stage for the rally add to the questions about the security lapses preceding the event.


Wray pledged to lawmakers that the FBI would “leave no stone unturned” in its investigation.

“I have been saying for some time now that we are living in an elevated threat environment, and tragically the Butler County assassination attempt is another example — a particularly heinous and public one — of what I’ve been talking about,” Wray said.

The hearing had been scheduled well before the shooting, as part of the committee’s routine oversight of the FBI and the Justice Department. Questions about the shooting dominated the session.

Despite being appointed by Trump, Wray typically faces antagonistic questions from the Republican-led panel, a reflection of lingering discontent over the FBI’s investigation into potential ties between Russia and the 2016 campaign, when Trump defeated Democrat Hillary Clinton.


That sentiment was made clear early in the hearing when the committee chairman, Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, told Wray: “I’m sure you understand that a significant portion of the country has a healthy skepticism regarding the FBI’s ability to conduct a fair, honest, open and transparent investigation.”

The FBI so far has avoided the same level of scrutiny over the shooting directed at the Secret Service over security failures that preceded the shooting and has led to the the resignation of Director Kimberly Cheatle,

The FBI has said it is investigating the shooting, which killed one rallygoer and seriously injured two others, as an act of domestic terrorism and an attempted assassination. Trump’s campaign said the presumptive GOP nominee was doing “fine” after the shooting, which Trump said pierced the upper part of his right ear.
 

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Yeah, was actually going to post that video, but the adoration of the guys in it for the Orange One was kind'a revolting.

That said, after seeing pictures of Trump's ear after being shot, and how it likely happened with the demo it raises more questions for me than resolves the issue.

1. How the hell did he not suffer more damage at least to his ear/head from the force of the bullet alone?
2. The target dummy and the ear from Trump are not the same at all but yet the target dummy was as close we can get to real without using real? So what gives?
 
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Yeah, was actually going to post that video, but the adoration of the guys in it for the Orange One was kind'a revolting.

That said, after seeing pictures of Trump's ear after being shot, and how it likely happened with the demo it raises more questions for me than resolves the issue.

1. How the hell did he not suffer more damage at least to his ear/head from the force of the bullet alone?
2. The target dummy and the ear from Trump are not the same at all but yet the target dummy was as close we can get to real without using real? So what gives?
So, you are saying he was not shot at, a member of the crowd was not killed with 2 more injured?
Regardless if a bullet hit his ear or if it was shrapnel, there was a threat made and the SS fucked up royally.
 
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So, you are saying he was not shot at, a member of the crowd was not killed with 2 more injured?
Regardless if a bullet hit his ear or if it was shrapnel, there was a threat made and the SS fucked up royally.
I/3 of the retarded left believe he faked it.
 

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Yeah, was actually going to post that video, but the adoration of the guys in it for the Orange One was kind'a revolting.

That said, after seeing pictures of Trump's ear after being shot, and how it likely happened with the demo it raises more questions for me than resolves the issue.

1. How the hell did he not suffer more damage at least to his ear/head from the force of the bullet alone?
2. The target dummy and the ear from Trump are not the same at all but yet the target dummy was as close we can get to real without using real? So what gives?
I say we line Mr. Trump up and recreate the shot. Just to be sure it wasn't faked. We can do it with string so that no one thinks I'm advocating doing what a cheeseburger is destined to do.
 

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I say we line Mr. Trump up and recreate the shot. Just to be sure it wasn't faked. We can do it with string so that no one thinks I'm advocating doing what a cheeseburger is destined to do.

I'm not saying it was fake. It's not and obviously so.

For me, the issue is the wound doesn't match a bullet. Either it was REALLY a very slim, just barely touched by the bullet graze, or if it was more of a full bullet hit, then what are the other medical issues that would come from a shot like that? Does he have hearing impairment now? Is there some form of concussion or compression injury from the force of the bullet hitting his ear (look at the video; things ripple and that would equal damage).

Put aside the fact I don't like Trump - if this happened to anyone else in any kind of level of power, or someone seeking power, I'd be just as concerned because damage = impairments to mental acuity.

It is a bloody miracle that he survived; or luck, or whatever the hell you want to call it.

But I do NOT believe that he's some kind of hero, saint or strong/tuff guy to right after continue on with his life like nothing happened. That just screams a lot of red flags and I'd say that about anyone.
 

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I'm not saying it was fake. It's not and obviously so.

For me, the issue is the wound doesn't match a bullet. Either it was REALLY a very slim, just barely touched by the bullet graze, or if it was more of a full bullet hit, then what are the other medical issues that would come from a shot like that? Does he have hearing impairment now? Is there some form of concussion or compression injury from the force of the bullet hitting his ear (look at the video; things ripple and that would equal damage).

Put aside the fact I don't like Trump - if this happened to anyone else in any kind of level of power, or someone seeking power, I'd be just as concerned because damage = impairments to mental acuity.

It is a bloody miracle that he survived; or luck, or whatever the hell you want to call it.

But I do NOT believe that he's some kind of hero, saint or strong/tuff guy to right after continue on with his life like nothing happened. That just screams a lot of red flags and I'd say that about anyone.
Not a miracle, just a shooter who aimed for the wrong part of his target. I question if he even had a bead on Donald Trump at all, or was shooting blindly. There is a shooting method. Sighting the target in, I always breathe in and out as naturally as possible. As I settle the sight on the target ( center of visible mass,) I tighten my squeeze on the trigger and let half that breath go and hold the rest, then I squeeze (not pull) the trigger. Pulling sends a bullet wild. The shot should come as a surprise, that lessens the chance of flinching and your shot going wild. After you take the shot you follow through and see if your target falls, while readying yourself to repeat the process. You never shoot at a head or an arm or a leg, and if that's what this shooter did, he was destined to miss. A turn of the head was what saved Donald Trump's life. If it had been a pro, he'd be getting a state funeral.
 
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Not a miracle, just a shooter who aimed for the wrong part of his target.

Possible.

I question if he even had a bead on Donald Trump at all, or was shooting blindly.

Considering what's out there about him being kicked out of gun ranges, likely shooting blindly/stupidly.

There is a shooting method. Sighting the target in, I always breathe in and out as naturally as possible. As I settle the sight on the target ( center of visible mass,) I tighten my squeeze on the trigger and let half that breath go and hold the rest, then I squeeze (not pull) the trigger.

That's exactly how I was taught to shoot. But then our RO was also the RO for the Penn and he was ex-military cop.

Pulling sends a bullet wild. The shot should come as a surprise, that lessens the chance of flinching and your shot going wild. After you take the shot you follow through and see if your target falls, while readying yourself to repeat the process. You never shoot at a head or an arm or a leg, and if that's what this shooter did, he was destined to miss. A turn of the head was what saved Donald Trump's life. If it had been a pro, he'd be getting a state funeral.

The turn of his head is why people claim it to be a 'miracle'. I mean I get why it shouldn't be really seen as such, but then again, it sort of can.

Personally I think this kid watched too many movies or played too many video games that made assassinations look 'simple'.
 

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Yeah, I watch them crying about how the Democrats created this environment where someone is shooting at their savior. Democrats pull that shit all the time. They are the Kings of Outrage.

Again, haven't been paying attention to Republicans lately, have you.

They've been in "Outrage" for years and years over absolutely stupid shit.

Not saying the Dems haven't been like that, they have.

Just that the R's being all vapors shouldn't be a surprise.
 

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and 90% of the right blames it on the Democrats.
It's weird watching Republicans acting like Democrats when it comes to outrage.
So who did it ? Do you care about the collaterall damage ? It’s weird nobody cares about the deceased and his family . It should have been Trump , right ?
 

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FBI says Trump was indeed struck by bullet during assassination attempt
Author of the article:Associated Press
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Jill Colvin, Eric Tucker, Bernard Condon And Jim Mustian
Published Jul 26, 2024 • 6 minute read

WASHINGTON (AP) — Nearly two weeks after Donald Trump’s near assassination, the FBI confirmed Friday that it was indeed a bullet that struck the former president’s ear, moving to clear up conflicting accounts about what caused the former president’s injuries after a gunman opened fire at a Pennsylvania rally.


“What struck former President Trump in the ear was a bullet, whether whole or fragmented into smaller pieces, fired from the deceased subject’s rifle,” the agency said in a statement.

The statement from the FBI marked the most definitive law enforcement account of Trump’s injuries and followed ambiguous comments earlier in the week from Director Christopher Wray that appeared to cast doubt on whether Trump had actually been hit by a bullet.

The comment drew fury from Trump and his allies and further stoked conspiracy theories that have flourished on both sides of the political aisle amid a dearth of information following the July 13 attack.

Up until now, federal law enforcement agents involved in the investigation, including the FBI and Secret Service, had repeatedly refused to provide information about what caused Trump’s injuries. Trump’s campaign has also declined to release medical records from the hospital where he was first treated or to make the doctors there available for questions.


Updates have instead come either from Trump himself or from Trump’s former White House doctor, Ronny Jackson, a staunch ally who who now represents Texas in Congress. Though Jackson has been treating Trump since the night of the attack, he has come under considerable scrutiny and is not Trump’s primary care physician.

The FBI’s apparent reluctance to immediately vouch for the former president’s version of events — along with the ire he and some supporters have directed at the bureau in the shooting’s aftermath _ has also raised fresh tension between the Republican nominee and the nation’s premier federal law enforcement agency, which he could soon exert control over once again.

Trump and his contributors have repeatedly accused federal law enforcement of being weaponized against him.


Questions about the extent and nature of Trump’s wound began immediately after the attack, as his campaign and law enforcement officials declined to answer questions about his condition or the treatment he received after Trump narrowly escaped death in an attempted assassination by a gunman with a high-powered rifle.

Those questions have persisted despite photos showing the trace of a projectile speeding past Trump’s head, photographs that show Trump’s teleprompter glass intact after the shooting, and the account Trump himself gave in a Truth Social post within hours of the shooting saying he had been “shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear.”

“I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin,” he wrote.


Days later, in a speech accepting the nomination at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee, Trump described the horrific scene in detail, while wearing a large, white, gauze bandage over his right ear.

“I heard a loud whizzing sound and felt something hit me really, really hard, on my right ear. I said to myself, ‘Wow, what was that? It can only be a bullet,”‘ he said.

“If I had not moved my head at that very last instant,” Trump said, “the assassin’s bullet would have perfectly hit its mark, and I would not be here tonight.”

But the first medical account of Trump’s condition didn’t come until a full week after the shooting, when Jackson released his first letter last Saturday evening. In that letter, he said the bullet that struck Trump had “produced a 2 cm wide wound that extended down to the cartilaginous surface of the ear.” He also revealed that Trump had received a CT scan at the hospital.


But federal law enforcement involved in the investigation, including the FBI and Secret Service, had declined to confirm that account. And Wray’s testimony offered apparently conflicting answers on the issue.

“There’s some question about whether or not it’s a bullet or shrapnel that hit his ear,” Wray testified, before he seemed to suggest it was indeed a bullet.

“I don’t know whether that bullet, in addition to causing the grazing, could have also landed somewhere else,” he said.

The following day, the FBI sought to clarify matters with a statement affirming that the shooting was an “attempted assassination of former President Trump which resulted in his injury, as well as the death of a heroic father and the injuries of several other victims.” The FBI also said Thursday that its Shooting Reconstruction Team continues to examine bullet fragments and other evidence from the scene.


Jackson, who has been treating the former president since the night of the July 13 shooting, told The Associated Press on Thursday that any suggestion Trump’s ear was bloodied by anything other than a bullet was reckless.

“It was a bullet wound,” said Jackson. “You can’t make statements like that. It leads to all these conspiracy theories.”

In his letter Friday, Jackson insisted “there is absolutely no evidence” Trump was struck by anything other than a bullet and said it was “wrong and inappropriate to suggest anything else.”

He wrote that at Butler Memorial Hospital, where the GOP nominee was rushed after the shooting, he was evaluated and treated for a “Gunshot Wound to the Right Ear.”

“Having served as an Emergency Medicine physician for over 20 years in the United States Navy, including as a combat physician on the battlefield in Iraq,” he wrote, “I have treated many gunshot wounds in my career. Based on my direct observations of the injury, my relevant clinical background, and my significant experience evaluating and treating patients with similar wounds, I completely concur with the initial assessment and treatment provided by the doctors at nurses at Butler Memorial Hospital on the day of the shooting.”


The FBI declined to comment on the Jackson letters.

Asked if the campaign would release those hospital records, or allow the doctors who treated him there to speak, Trump campaign spokesperson Steven Cheung blasted the media for asking.

“The media has no shame in engaging in disgusting conspiracy theories,” he said. “The facts are the facts, and to question an abhorrent assassination attempt that ultimately cost a life and injured two others is beyond the pale.”

In emails last week, he told the AP that “medical readouts” had already been provided.

“It’s sad some people still don’t believe a shooting happened,” Cheung said, “even after one person was killed and others were injured.”

Anyone who believes the conspiracies, he added, “is either mentally deficient or willfully peddling falsehoods for political reasons.”


Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., a close Trump ally, also urged Wray to correct his testimony in a letter Friday to the FBI director, saying the fact Trump had been hit by a bullet “was made clear in briefings my office received and should not be a point of contention.”

“As head of the FBI, you should not be creating confusion about such matters, as it further undercuts the agency’s credibility with millions of Americans,” he wrote.

Trump also lashed out at Wray in a post on his Truth Social network, saying it was “No wonder the once storied FBI has lost the confidence of America!”

“No, it was, unfortunately, a bullet that hit my ear, and hit it hard. There was no glass, there was no shrapnel,” he wrote.

On Friday, he called Wray’s comments “so damaging to the Great People that work in the FBI.”


Jackson has faced significant scrutiny over the years.

After administering a physical to Trump in 2018, he drew headlines for suggesting that “if he had a healthier diet over the last 20 years, he might live to be 200 years old.”

He was reportedly demoted by the Navy after the Department of Defense inspector general released a scathing report on his conduct as a top White House physician that found Jackson had made “sexual and denigrating” comments about a female subordinates and took prescription-strength sleeping medication that prompted worries from his colleagues about his ability to provide proper medical care.

Trump appointed Wray in 2017 to replace the fired James Comey as director of the FBI. But the then-president swiftly soured on his hire as the bureau continued its investigation into the Russian election interference.

Trump flirted openly with the idea of firing Wray as his term drew to a close, and he lashed out anew after the FBI executed a search warrant at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida to recover boxes of classified documents from his presidency.

___ Colvin reported from New York.
 

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In emails last week, he told the AP that “medical readouts” had already been provided.

“It’s sad some people still don’t believe a shooting happened,” Cheung said, “even after one person was killed and others were injured.”

Anyone who believes the conspiracies, he added, “is either mentally deficient or willfully peddling falsehoods for political reasons.”
No shit!!!
 

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I'm not saying it was fake. It's not and obviously so.

For me, the issue is the wound doesn't match a bullet. Either it was REALLY a very slim, just barely touched by the bullet graze, or if it was more of a full bullet hit, then what are the other medical issues that would come from a shot like that? Does he have hearing impairment now? Is there some form of concussion or compression injury from the force of the bullet hitting his ear (look at the video; things ripple and that would equal damage).

Put aside the fact I don't like Trump - if this happened to anyone else in any kind of level of power, or someone seeking power, I'd be just as concerned because damage = impairments to mental acuity.

It is a bloody miracle that he survived; or luck, or whatever the hell you want to call it.

But I do NOT believe that he's some kind of hero, saint or strong/tuff guy to right after continue on with his life like nothing happened. That just screams a lot of red flags and I'd say that about anyone.
It makes more sense to be caused by shattered teleprompter glass. Which is kind of ironic in its own way because I think he criticized Joe Biden for using teleprompters at his rallies.
 
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