i try to avoid starting new threads.This has something to do with Islam?

i try to avoid starting new threads.This has something to do with Islam?
So, that means you can't "chose" who you want as clients & must accept everyone who comes in the door. Huh - I wouldn't comply no matter what. Her views are hers & hers alone & she shouldn't be punished because someone else determines they're lies or misinformation or whatever. I thought we still lived in a free society but apparently, that's not the case. We MUST learn to accept the views of others, whether we agree with them or not. "Group think" should NEVER be the "go to" for anyone. We can agree to disagree without having to punish people for their views or opinions right or wrong. We can simply point out where they're wrong & hope that common sense prevails - oh that's right - common sense DOESN'T prevail any more. Sad really & she's paying the price which is truly destructive to society when this happens.Former B.C. massage school ordered to pay $12Gs for discrimination over religion
The school director asked him to 'certify you are not of the Islamic faith'
Author of the article:Cheryl Chan
Published Apr 22, 2024 • Last updated 1 day ago • 2 minute read
B.C. Human Rights Tribunal
B.C. Human Rights Tribunal
A former Northern B.C. massage school has been ordered to pay $12,500 for Islamophobic claims against a Muslim man.
In January 2019, Majid Shahadat, who identifies as Muslim and has lived in Canada for 25 years, booked a lymphatic massage treatment online with the Northern School of Spa Therapies in Fort St. John, said the B.C. Human Rights Tribunal decision issued on April 17.
That night, the director of the school, Joyce Middleton, wrote him an email requesting “credentials” and asking him to “certify you are not of the Islamic faith, which as you know has earned a bad reputation for raping and killing of infidels in Canada and elsewhere.”
Three days later, she sent a second email saying they are not accepting “new male clients that we do not know” because “we have to protect our students, who happen to be all girls at this time.” She referred him to another male massage therapist.
“As a result of Ms. Middleton’s discriminatory views, Mr. Shahadat was denied access to a service ordinarily available to the public, based on his religion, place of origin, ancestry, and colour,” said tribunal member Devyn Cousineau in the decision. “This denial was a violation of his dignity and an affront to B.C.’s commitment to an equitable society.”
Middleton did not participate in the hearing, but submitted a written statement.
In her previous submissions to dismiss Shahadat’s application, Middleton argued she was not racist, but was afraid of Shahadat.
In the decision, she said she was entitled to protect herself and the “young girls” who work at the school.
She said her risk assessment was based on “world news, police reports, country statistics, excerpts directly from the Qur’an,” including references to “evidence of Islamists killing, raping and torturing Nigerian women and children over Christmas 2023.”
To justify her assessment that Shahadat posed a potential risk to her and her students, Middleton relied on “misinformation from what appear to be far-right, anti-Muslim, internet websites,” said Cousineau, and relied on the stereotype of vilification of Muslim people with no factual basis.
Cousineau said it is apparent Middleton truly believes the Qur’an promotes violence against women, children and non-Muslims and she is free to hold these views “as repugnant as others might find them.
“However, if she wants to run a business in British Columbia that serves the public, she cannot use those discriminatory views to decide who she will serve,” she said.
She ordered the school and Middleton to pay $10,000 for injury to dignity, feelings and self-respect and another $2,500 for improper conduct for exposing Shahadat to further discrimination and inflammatory anti-Muslim propaganda in her submissions and for threatening to sue him in B.C. Supreme Court.
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Former B.C. massage school ordered to pay $12k for discrimination
Majid Shahadat was denied access to a service because of his religion, said the B.C. Human Rights Tribunal in its decisiontorontosun.com
You don't have to accept everyone who comes in the door, you just can't reject them for being Black, or FN, or Muslim.So, that means you can't "chose" who you want as clients & must accept everyone who comes in the door.
Funny how no leftards cried discrimination when a disabled person in Toronto was DENIED a subsidized housing unit because he wasn't muslim garbage.You don't have to accept everyone who comes in the door, you just can't reject them for being Black, or FN, or Muslim.
I'm not terribly surprised to see you disapprove of forbidding discrimination.
Who disapproves of "forbidding discrimination?" Not me, that's for sure. But then I see where you come from & it's not a nice sight. OF course you can't reject people for their race or religious affiliations but you know that's not what we're talking about!You don't have to accept everyone who comes in the door, you just can't reject them for being Black, or FN, or Muslim.
I'm not terribly surprised to see you disapprove of forbidding discrimination.
You. That's for sure. You just call it "choosing" whom to serve. Yeah, we have some experience with that in the U.S., where you could "choose" not to serve non-White people until we finally passed a law against such "choice."Who disapproves of "forbidding discrimination?" Not me, that's for sure. But then I see where you come from & it's not a nice sight. OF course you can't reject people for their race or religious affiliations but you know that's not what we're talking about!
The kangaroo kourt wins another blow against freedom and democracy.Former B.C. massage school ordered to pay $12Gs for discrimination over religion
The school director asked him to 'certify you are not of the Islamic faith'
Author of the article:Cheryl Chan
Published Apr 22, 2024 • Last updated 1 day ago • 2 minute read
B.C. Human Rights Tribunal
B.C. Human Rights Tribunal
A former Northern B.C. massage school has been ordered to pay $12,500 for Islamophobic claims against a Muslim man.
In January 2019, Majid Shahadat, who identifies as Muslim and has lived in Canada for 25 years, booked a lymphatic massage treatment online with the Northern School of Spa Therapies in Fort St. John, said the B.C. Human Rights Tribunal decision issued on April 17.
That night, the director of the school, Joyce Middleton, wrote him an email requesting “credentials” and asking him to “certify you are not of the Islamic faith, which as you know has earned a bad reputation for raping and killing of infidels in Canada and elsewhere.”
Three days later, she sent a second email saying they are not accepting “new male clients that we do not know” because “we have to protect our students, who happen to be all girls at this time.” She referred him to another male massage therapist.
“As a result of Ms. Middleton’s discriminatory views, Mr. Shahadat was denied access to a service ordinarily available to the public, based on his religion, place of origin, ancestry, and colour,” said tribunal member Devyn Cousineau in the decision. “This denial was a violation of his dignity and an affront to B.C.’s commitment to an equitable society.”
Middleton did not participate in the hearing, but submitted a written statement.
In her previous submissions to dismiss Shahadat’s application, Middleton argued she was not racist, but was afraid of Shahadat.
In the decision, she said she was entitled to protect herself and the “young girls” who work at the school.
She said her risk assessment was based on “world news, police reports, country statistics, excerpts directly from the Qur’an,” including references to “evidence of Islamists killing, raping and torturing Nigerian women and children over Christmas 2023.”
To justify her assessment that Shahadat posed a potential risk to her and her students, Middleton relied on “misinformation from what appear to be far-right, anti-Muslim, internet websites,” said Cousineau, and relied on the stereotype of vilification of Muslim people with no factual basis.
Cousineau said it is apparent Middleton truly believes the Qur’an promotes violence against women, children and non-Muslims and she is free to hold these views “as repugnant as others might find them.
“However, if she wants to run a business in British Columbia that serves the public, she cannot use those discriminatory views to decide who she will serve,” she said.
She ordered the school and Middleton to pay $10,000 for injury to dignity, feelings and self-respect and another $2,500 for improper conduct for exposing Shahadat to further discrimination and inflammatory anti-Muslim propaganda in her submissions and for threatening to sue him in B.C. Supreme Court.
chchan@postmedia.com
x.com/cherylchan
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Former B.C. massage school ordered to pay $12k for discrimination
Majid Shahadat was denied access to a service because of his religion, said the B.C. Human Rights Tribunal in its decisiontorontosun.com
Why not? White males are rejected for being white males on a regular basis. Some government job descriptions also specifically exempt whites.You don't have to accept everyone who comes in the door, you just can't reject them for being Black, or FN, or Muslim.
I'm not terribly surprised to see you disapprove of forbidding discrimination.
Yes, the suffering and oppression of White men over the centuries just brings tears to my eyes.Why not? White males are rejected for being white males on a regular basis. Some government job descriptions also specifically exempt whites.
SO it should. They have been carrying everyone else for at least 3000 years.Yes, the suffering and oppression of White men over the centuries just brings tears to my eyes.
Carrying them to their graves, to slavery, to rape, to second (or lower)-class citizenship. Lotsa carrying there.SO it should. They have been carrying everyone else for at least 3000 years.
So the dude in Texas who refused to make a cake for a gay couple because it was against his beliefs should be penalized? The "dude" who dresses up like a woman then goes into a spa requesting certain services for women & is refused because he still has all his "appendages" - the business should be penalized?You. That's for sure. You just call it "choosing" whom to serve. Yeah, we have some experience with that in the U.S., where you could "choose" not to serve non-White people until we finally passed a law against such "choice."
OK, so you believe in categorical discrimination. Good to know.So the dude in Texas who refused to make a cake for a gay couple because it was against his beliefs should be penalized? The "dude" who dresses up like a woman then goes into a spa requesting certain services for women & is refused because he still has all his "appendages" - the business should be penalized?
Apparently, if this is the case, you cannot refuse service to anyone which in my mind is ridiculous. But then, I don't own a business nor do I have to accept anything that I find offensive. That's the Progressive way right - almost anything negative is offensive & the offender MUST be punished. That is what is called fascism in all it's glory & under which no decision can be made by individuals only the government & you must comply! If that isn't absurd, I don't know what is.
I believe that everyone is entitled to their opinions & beliefs & no one should be able to come into my place of business & tell me how to run it. That has absolutely NOTHING to do with racism or any other B.S. ism.OK, so you believe in categorical discrimination. Good to know.
Good to see we're in agreement.I believe that everyone is entitled to their opinions & beliefs & no one should be able to come into my place of business & tell me how to run it. That has absolutely NOTHING to do with racism or any other B.S. ism.