Atheists rise up!

[Motar]

None of it makes any sense to me. Why did Gawd demand a death to "save" everybody? Way I understand it, Gawd made the rules, and Gawd can change the rules. So if Gawd wants folk to be saved, why don't he just say "OK, everybody's saved?"

Two questions here: “Why blood sacrifice?”and, “Why not just say?” In a word, the answer to both is existential.

Before God spoke everything into being, there was only spiritual reality. Since God spoke everything into being, matter exists. Now we’re dealing with a different reality.

The separation from God initiated in Eden was both spiritual and material. Lost personal relationship with God and dying flesh. God’s word repairs our spiritual alienation. God’s act of self-sacrifice in human form restores our once immortal bodies.

Make sense?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Two questions here: “Why blood sacrifice?”and, “Why not just say?” In a word, the answer to both is existential.

Before God spoke everything into being, there was only spiritual reality. Since God spoke everything into being, matter exists. Now we’re dealing with a different reality.

The separation from God initiated in Eden was both spiritual and material. Lost personal relationship with God and dying flesh. God’s word repairs our spiritual alienation. God’s act of self-sacrifice in human form restores our once immortal bodies.

Make sense?

Nope. All that could be done with a wave of His Mighty Hand. Or with a divine thought.

Gawd seems to enjoy cruelty and misery, given how easily Gawd could stop it.

 

[Taxslave2]

Two questions here: “Why blood sacrifice?”and, “Why not just say?” In a word, the answer to both is existential.

Before God spoke everything into being, there was only spiritual reality. Since God spoke everything into being, matter exists. Now we’re dealing with a different reality.

The separation from God initiated in Eden was both spiritual and material. Lost personal relationship with God and dying flesh. God’s word repairs our spiritual alienation. God’s act of self-sacrifice in human form restores our once immortal bodies.

Make sense?

That makes about as much sense as the clown that insisted the cold spell we are having is actually caused by globull warming.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

That makes about as much sense as the clown that insisted the cold spell we are having is actually caused by globull warming.

Way less sense. It's perfectly feasible that in a warming system, there could be cooling spots. Like lumps in the smashed potatoes.

 

[55Mercury]

rejoice that Mr. T is not Gawd!

or He'd be rainin' on all y'all's parades!

:?D

 

[Motar]

Nope. All that could be done with a wave of His Mighty Hand. Or with a divine thought.

Gawd seems to enjoy cruelty and misery, given how easily Gawd could stop it.

Spiritual realities (1 Cor 2:12-14).

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Spiritual realities (1 Cor 2:12-14).

If you believe in an omnipotent, omniscient Gawd, reality is like the rules of football: changeable at will.

If you believe in an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent Gawd, you're a fool. Gawd cannot be all three and allow evil or suffering in the universe.

 

[Ron in Regina]

If you believe in an omnipotent, omniscient Gawd, reality is like the rules of football: changeable at will.

If you believe in an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent Gawd, you're a fool. Gawd cannot be all three and allow evil or suffering in the universe.

Maybe God (pick your flavour) has some weird motivations, or a weird sense of humour?

 

[petros]

Freewill. You get to create your own reality.

 

[Motar]

Spiritual realities (1 Cor 2:12-14).

We are spiritual beings temporarily housed in human flesh.

 

[Taxslave2]

We are spiritual beings temporarily housed in human flesh.

You might be. The rest of have a better grip on reality.

 

[petros]

You might be. The rest of have a better grip on reality.

That is reality.

 

[Taxslave2]

I am not a spiritual being in the least.

 

[Motar]

I am not a spiritual being in the least.

This material world has an expiration date (Rev 22:1-2).

 

[petros]

This material world has an expiration date (Rev 22:1-2).

The material world will go on but the spiritual won't exist as living beings in the material world.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

So a bunch of guys (the first Ron L Hubbard's) write a bunch of crazy stories about a sky man and everyone believes them. Congratulations, you're Tom Cruise.

 

[petros]

I am not a spiritual being in the least.

That you know of.

 

[petros]

So a bunch of guys (the first Ron L Hubbard's) write a bunch of crazy stories about a sky man and everyone believes them. Congratulations, you're Tom Cruise.

It's a bunch of sky men. No matter how remote or separated or disconnected every damn culturd through time has a sky men story.

These days they wear vibrantly coloured tights and do damage to infrastructure and build lairs.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

This material world has an expiration date (Rev 22:1-2).

And belief in the unsupported and patently absurd is for those too cowardly to accept that they're going to die.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]