A call to Dexter and all the other ... [members, guests, and every reader]

[Torch light]

I have spent many years in this Canadian forum, writing about the Quran, defending God's religion and God's messenger.. and I might have transgressed in some way or another provoked by some ignorant persons here... so here I apologize to everyone here for every offensive word I wrote before and later on.
Of course, you have what you call 'another culture' and 'another education', but the essential and principal things will be common for all people.

I am now busy with updating the Quran interpretation and the books written in Arabic by the Quran interpreter Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly which take a part of my time; they are on the website: http://quran-ayat.com

I have written in this forum about the Quran interpretation, maybe more than I have written in Arabic, which I left to some of my friends who have time to do that for the Arab.

I cannot guide anyone unless God Himself may do this.

But I say:
God is True, and we have not come to this World spontaneously without God having created us and the entire universe.
The original Torah revealed to Moses was true, the original Gospel revealed to Jesus was true, and the Quran revealed to Mohammed is True.
The Hereafter is true, its first part: the Afterlife is true, Paradise and Hell are true.
The prophets of God were true.
The devotion to God alone is the correct way for all people to follow, and the Quran is God's constitution for mankind {and genie or jinn-kind.)
The association: sharing or polytheism

None can avail any man or woman against God Whose will prevails over the will of His prophets: including Jesus and Mohammed: they cannot save or as you say redeem anyone against God's will.

The Quran which most of you refuse, and most Muslims refuse its true interpretation, by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Mahdi, is true.

 

[Jinentonix]

The Quran which most of you refuse, and most Muslims refuse its true interpretation, by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Mahdi, is true.

So what you're saying is they finally got it right the third time? Judaism got it wrong. Christianity got it wrong. But you guys...you guys nailed it. I mean we're talking essentially the same god for all three religions so...what exactly makes your religion the one true belief and not Christianity or Judaism? And for fuck sakes, do NOT quote that damn quran of yours or any interpretation thereof. Jewish and Christian texts also proclaim their religions to be the one true religion. So it would be like a Jew or Christian using THEIR book as proof. See where I'm going here?
All three are nothing more than created mythologies that got warped into ideologies of blind obedience and servitude, also known as slavery.

 

[Serryah]

The Quran which most of you refuse, and most Muslims refuse its true interpretation, by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Mahdi, is true.

So you're admitting that the Quran you follow, the only one that matters, is one that is determined by INTERPRETATION of someone who is NOT Mohammed? Who is a Twelver Imam?

Well, thank you for proving yet again that you DON'T follow the word of God, but rather that of Man.

Keep up the "good" work, Torchy.

Muhammad al-Mahdi - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Dexter Sinister]

So what you're saying is they finally got it right the third time?

I think he’s saying only he and Al-Hilly, and whoever he’s been able to convince in his circle, have it right. And he must mean Al-Hilly in his post, not Al-Mahdi, the Mahdi is either hidden or not born yet, depending on which version of Islam one subscribes to, and he’s claimed to be neither Shia nor Sunni.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

But I say:

I’ll answer your call to this extent: I believe everything that follows those three words in your post is incorrect.

 

[petros]

I think he’s saying only he and Al-Hilly, and whoever he’s been able to convince in his circle, have it right. And he must mean Al-Hilly in his post, not Al-Mahdi, the Mahdi is either hidden or not born yet, depending on which version of Islam one subscribes to, and he’s claimed to be neither Shia nor Sunni.

Ahmadiyya.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I think he’s saying only he and Al-Hilly, and whoever he’s been able to convince in his circle, have it right. And he must mean Al-Hilly in his post, not Al-Mahdi, the Mahdi is either hidden or not born yet, depending on which version of Islam one subscribes to, and he’s claimed to be neither Shia nor Sunni.

I subscribe to Girls of the Quran. . .

Can't read the text, but the pix are pretty nice.

 

[Jinentonix]

I subscribe to Girls of the Quran. . .

Can't read the text, but the pix are pretty nice.

"Filthy whores" exposing their ankles?

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Ahmadiyya.

Possible I suppose, I didn’t think of that, but it seems unlikely, it’s a pretty small group in the Muslim world, and a heresy where he probably comes from, which I’ve long suspected is Iraq, though he may have relocated for reasons of personal safety if he is a member.

 

[petros]

Possible I suppose, I didn’t think of that, but it seems unlikely, it’s a pretty small group in the Muslim world, and a heresy where he probably comes from, which I’ve long suspected is Iraq, though he may have relocated for reasons of personal safety if he is a member.

20 million is a small number?

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad established the Community (or Jamāʿat) on 23 March 1889 by formally accepting allegiance from his supporters. Since his death, the Community has been led by a succession of Caliphs. By 2017 it had spread to 210 countries and territories of the world with concentrations in South Asia, West Africa, East Africa, and Indonesia. The Ahmadis have a strong missionary tradition, having formed the first Muslim missionary organization to arrive in Britain and other Western countries.[22] Currently, the community is led by its caliph, Mirza Masroor Ahmad, and is estimated to number between 10 and 20 million worldwide.[23][24][25]


I've spoke with him about it. He's an Iranian Messianc Evangelical Muslim and yes in Baghdad.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

20 million is a small number?

Out of total Muslims worldwide, yes, only about 1.1% of them. If in fact that’s how many of them there are, it’s not known with any certainty and may be only half that.

 

[petros]

Out of total Muslims worldwide, yes, only about 1.1% of them. If in fact that’s how many of them there are, it’s not known with any certainty and may be only half that.

True enough but still more than the 16 Million Jews globally ( I assumed more for some reason).

 

[Torch light]

I think he’s saying only he and Al-Hilly, and whoever he’s been able to convince in his circle, have it right. And he must mean Al-Hilly in his post, not Al-Mahdi, the Mahdi is either hidden or not born yet, depending on which version of Islam one subscribes to, and he’s claimed to be neither Shia nor Sunni.

Atheists, you are losers certainly.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Atheists, you are losers certainly.

Losers of what though?

 

[Torch light]

I’ll answer your call to this extent: I believe everything that follows those three words in your post is incorrect.

All your atheism and disbelief is wrong.

 

[Torch light]

Losers of what though?

Bunch of atheists and blasphemers and idolaters, your disbelief will lead to your complete loss in the Hereafter, and you are not far from God's dealing in this life of the World also.

 

[Torch light]

Ahmadiyya.

I respect the Ahmadiya, although I am not one of them.

 

[petros]

I respect the Ahmadiya, although I am not one of them.

Close to it.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Bunch of atheists and blasphemers and idolaters, your disbelief will lead to your complete loss in the Hereafter, and you are not far from God's dealing in this life of the World also.

Does a person have to be religious to be a good person? Does a person have to be religious to respect their family and friends and elders? Does a person have to be religious to not do evil upon others?

Are those above qualities irrelevant to your God? He or She or They or Them is only concerned with being worshipped, and not about who the person is that’s worshipping them? Is that what you’re trying to say above in your warm & caring way?

If so, I’m going to have to content myself with being a good person now, and let the chips fall where they may be based on my own actions and deeds and thoughts at a later date, if there is a hereafter.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

And what's the deal with eternity anyhow? Eternity's a long damn time. Isn't judging a body by eighty-some year or so on earth kinda like deciding you're a good or a bad person based on what you were doing between 2:47:05 and 2:47:08 pm on November 6, 1983?