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Yeah? All the polls in the lead up to the 2016 referendum said that Remain would win.
Remainers haven't learnt that polls don't tend to be accurate and tend to be skewed towards the views of the organisation conducting each poll.
The real, genuine, views are known as a result of voting, and Brexit was voted on unanimously in 2016.
And yet there's huge regrets now that it's happened.
Polls are usually with a grain of salt, sure. But news articles and videos are coming out of people wishing they'd voted to remain, so...
It's okay Blackie, you were told, after all, this was a bad idea and now you're seeing it and it hurts to know you were buggered. It's okay.
Britons’ Growing Buyer’s Remorse for Brexit
With the Tory government shackled to a Brexit policy that is losing support, an angry new populism may resurge.
Brexit Day: Do people regret the decision to leave the EU?
Brexit Day was officially 31st January 2023; is the UK public still in support of the decision to leave the EU, or are some already regretting Brexit?
www.openaccessgovernment.org
Leavers 'more likely to regret Brexit vote' than Remainers, study finds
People who voted ‘leave’ in the 2016 Brexit referendum are more likely to regret their choice than those who voted ‘remain’, according to a new study.
www.kcl.ac.uk
Twitter stuff:
Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4rpBrwwrp8 ----- This one I saw last year I think; found it interesting, and sad for these people
Brexit Polls Shows Scale of Regret
The latest, detailed brexit polling shows brexit regret throughout most of Britain. But, in the details, the results also show that the red wall seats which ...
www.youtube.com
So... yeah. Those are a sample of "Who". I'm sure you'll wave it off/claim they're ignorant or some such. Cause that's what you do.
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The Brit friends I have, have never mentioned really which way they saw things, and I never asked. Overall it was a Brit issue, I just didn't like the bullshit and lies being used to push the idea and sheeple like Blackie who fell for it.
There’s a remedy for Britain’s problems: Rejoin the E.U.
By Fareed Zakaria
This week marked the third anniversary of Brexit, and it coincided with a grim verdict from the International Monetary Fund: This year, the British economy will do worse than all of the world’s major economies — including Russia. The 2016 vote to leave the European Union marked the symbolic start of the wave of populism that has been coursing through much of the Western world ever since. It was a conscious choice by a major country to have poorer economic relations with its largest market. (In 2021, the European Union took in around 42 percent of British exports.) British voters thus put nationalism and politics above economics.
On virtually every measure, from business investment to exports to employment, Britain is falling behind its peers. Think tank scholar John Springford put it simply: “If you impose barriers to trade, investment and migration with your biggest trading partner (EU), then you’re going to have quite a big hit to trade volumes, and to investment and to GDP.” Everywhere you look, Britain is feeling the pinch, from a shortage of workers to small companies struggling to send their goods into Europe to reduced traffic on the Eurostar train between Britain and Europe. Bloomberg Economics estimates that British GDP would be 4 percent higher had it stayed in the European Union.
Britons know they were conned. According to one survey, a clear majority now believe that leaving the European Union was a bad idea, and almost two-thirds want a future referendum on rejoining. The current prime minister, Rishi Sunak, was a Brexiteer himself and continues to mouth platitudes about its virtues — while he faces a series of crises that has in part been generated by Brexit. Even now, Britain has not resolved how it will handle the border between itself and European Union member Ireland — which could further derail economic growth.
Brexit was part of a broader collapse of British confidence. After the global financial crisis of 2008, British productivity turned downward sharply and has never recovered. Austerity policies made things worse as Tory governments slashed public spending, widening inequality and heightening general anxiety. As always, when times get tough, it is easy to blame foreigners, and opportunistic politicians such as Boris Johnson did just that, promising that Brexit would cure all the evils that faced the country and lying about the costs and benefits. Johnson’s fantasies of a lean and productive “Global Britain” that, once unshackled by Brexit, would become a kind of Singapore-on-Thames have gone nowhere. In fact, Britain now spends more on its welfare state, faces strikes across many crucial sectors and is experiencing deepening wage stagnation. According to Financial Times reporter John Burn-Murdoch, if things continue this way, the average British family will be poorer than the average Slovenian family by the end of next year.
The effects go beyond economics. Over the years, I have listened to every prime minister from Margaret Thatcher through David Cameron. They varied in political philosophy but all had an ambitious conception of Britain’s role in the world. Though they acknowledged that Britain would never be a superpower like the United States or China, they envisioned it as an energetic, engaged global player that cared deeply about the world. Britain had a powerful voice in the European Union as one of its three biggest economies; it also enjoyed special status thanks to its U.N. veto, its close relations with Washington, and its impressive armed forces. Most important, it had a long tradition of generating ideas and agendas on global issues — rooted in its legacy as a liberal, free-trading country with deep historical ties around the world. It had a voice that was heard everywhere and listened to seriously.
But over the past decade, defense spending has stagnated while funds for the foreign service, foreign aid and even the BBC have been cut in real terms. With Brexit, even the rhetoric about a larger role collapsed, as politicians ran away from anything that seemed too global. Now British prime ministers rarely speak to the international media — and when they do, they have nothing to say. Britain has become a middling island nation isolated off the coast of Europe, without the heft to matter on its own or to set the agenda in its partnerships. Even Washington has little time for a country that is not even part of the E.U. As journalist Neal Ascherson once feared, Great Britain has become Little England.
There is a remedy that would restore British growth, enlarge the country’s ambitions and return it to a central place in shaping a new world of great power competition. It would, of course, require that Britain return to the European Union.
Rishi Sunak is looking for a way to make a mark and turn Britain’s fortunes around. He has the solution staring him in the face. He just needs the courage to grab it.
Linky-dinky.
Let 'er buck.
Bullshit and lies. Let me ask you something. How would you feel if some assholes in Chihuahua, Mexico, decided that you can't fish in your own country's waters? Cuz that's just ONE of the many bits of bullshit the EU loaded onto Britons, who by the way, were dragged into the EEC/EU without so much as a by your leave from the voters. Heath unilaterally made the decision despite promising the people a referendum on it. That's because he heard through the polls and grapevine that 2/3 of Britons wanted no part of the EU.
Maybe instead of whining about "bullshit and lies" you should learn some history. Britain was dragged into the EU rather undemocratically but for some reason you have a fucking problem with Britain leaving the EU via a democratic process.
Of course I'm sure the bullshit and lies spewed buy the remainers didn't bother you one bit. For someone who proclaims they aren't ALT-left, you sure do support a LOT of ALT-left bullshit.
I mean it got so pathetic that 4 years after the fact the remoaners started blaming Brexit for the shortages caused by the pandemic.
It is typical that Serryah would use older results to try to justify her comments today. There's little doubt that after they voted in a fair and free election to leave that some people feared whether they made the right decision. But NOW - people are pretty comfortable with it.
uk.news.yahoo.com
There are only THREE areas - out of like 632 or so - THREE that polled that leaving was a bad idea. And thats with 10,000 people surveyed.
Oh wait - serryah did use ONE recent source (the rest aren't polls just random interviews where they kept the ones they liked) Well - mostly recent anyway, it's a year old. And IT SAYS THE MAJORITY APPROVE OF LEAVING BREXIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It says approval is down from where it was - BUT STILL A MAJORITY!!!!!
So - having posted proof that a Majority of people still think it's a good idea, and obviously skipping over any modern articles that show differently - she confidently claims the british people have HUGE regrets.
But it's no surprise that she's dishonest about it, like most on the left she'll lie to stick up for her tribal beliefs.
On the whole the country is still glad it exited. Most of the concerns about the exit are that the gov't hasn't handled it as well as it could. Which is different.
And absolutely the shills and racists in the BBC should be kicked out, as is happening.
Only three places in UK think Brexit was good, huge poll reveals
A poll has revealed that almost all of Britain's 632 constituencies think Brexit was a bad idea. Brexit: Three areas in UK think leaving EU was a good idea
There are only THREE areas - out of like 632 or so - THREE that polled that leaving was a bad idea. And thats with 10,000 people surveyed.
Oh wait - serryah did use ONE recent source (the rest aren't polls just random interviews where they kept the ones they liked) Well - mostly recent anyway, it's a year old. And IT SAYS THE MAJORITY APPROVE OF LEAVING BREXIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It says approval is down from where it was - BUT STILL A MAJORITY!!!!!
So - having posted proof that a Majority of people still think it's a good idea, and obviously skipping over any modern articles that show differently - she confidently claims the british people have HUGE regrets.
But it's no surprise that she's dishonest about it, like most on the left she'll lie to stick up for her tribal beliefs.
On the whole the country is still glad it exited. Most of the concerns about the exit are that the gov't hasn't handled it as well as it could. Which is different.
And absolutely the shills and racists in the BBC should be kicked out, as is happening.
Your article says "It is typical that Serryah would use older results to try to justify her comments today. There's little doubt that after they voted in a fair and free election to leave that some people feared whether they made the right decision. But NOW - people are pretty comfortable with it.
Only three places in UK think Brexit was good, huge poll reveals
A poll has revealed that almost all of Britain's 632 constituencies think Brexit was a bad idea. Brexit: Three areas in UK think leaving EU was a good idea
There are only THREE areas - out of like 632 or so - THREE that polled that leaving was a bad idea. And thats with 10,000 people surveyed.
Brexit: Only three areas in Britain think leaving EU was a good idea, major poll shows"
While you say "There are only THREE areas - out of like 632 or so - THREE that polled that leaving was a bad idea. And thats with 10,000 people surveyed.". What point were you trying to make?You didn;t read the article, the poll and the headline are different. According to the body of the article:
The polling estimates that, nearly seven years on from the divisive referendum, there are only three constituencies where more people agree with the statement "Britain was wrong to leave the EU" than don't.
That is actually completely differnet than the headline - i'll have to go look and see if i can find the oiginal poll
I'd be pissed off.
Yeah, know that.
The United Kingdom's tortuous journey in and out of the EU
The United Kingdom voted in 2016 to leave the European Union but it is still uncertain when or if that will happen.
www.reuters.com
"Britain joined the EEC in 1973 after France dropped its objection’s following de Gaulle’s resignation in 1969."
Yeah, Heath did, but...
"In 1975, new Labour Prime Minister Harold Wilson, faced with splits among his ministers on Europe, decided to hold an “in-out” referendum on membership. He backed staying in after saying a renegotiation on terms of membership had “substantially though not completely” achieved his objectives.
Britons voted 67 percent to 33 percent to stay in the European Union in 1975."
Huh. Guess they DID vote to stay...
Oh look, I learned history cause you brought up something I looked into and found was false...
Or is that history not allowed?
No, actually I didn't, but continue to believe that, Jin. My ISSUE was conspiracy theories, fears and ignorance twisted the "Democratic process" into a shitshow that even voters at the time had no fucking clue what they were voting for. My issue was the government at the time thought that Brits would vote to remain when there were obvious issues IN staying with the EU but they were too fucking stupid to "read the room". My issue was the question itself wasn't a simple do they stay or do they leave.
My issue was fearmongering like the "NHS Bus" lie.
The misinformation that was told about Brexit during and after the referendum
One of the major criticisms of the Brexit campaign was the number of misleading or false claims.
www.independent.co.uk
Had both sides actually given a shit about the whole process - notice I said BOTH sides there? - this issue might not have been the shitshow it was, and still is.
Actually, it did, but again, you keep on assuming since it's the one thing you're good at
Here, not a bad article that sums up BOTH sides and their bullshit.
Brexit: The Biggest Claims From The Remain And Leave Campaigns That Never Happened
Five years on from the historic vote to leave the European Union, PoliticsHome takes you through the key dramatic claims from each camp that never ...
www.politicshome.com
Also think this sums up the stupidity of the Remainers quite well. "In order to really nail it, the Remain campaign needed to make the case for why we should be in the EU in the first place. But it didn't even try to do that. Instead it was a sort of patronizing: “just believe our warnings and you’ll be fine”."
Remainers, IMO, were just as fucking horrible as the Leavers.
Really? What exactly do you mean by Alt-Left? What are Alt-Left beliefs and how are they different than just "left" "Liberal" or just "common sense" beliefs? Cause when you look into it, there's more suggestions that "Alt-Left" isn't a real thing or it's a made up BS trop Trump decided to use to avoid calling out the Charlottesville Nazi parade.
If you're suggesting Alt-Left is equal to Alt-Right - in that both are extremists to the political spectrum they reside on - then I'm no where NEAR Alt-Left. Despite some idiots claiming so, I'm not a Fascist, nor Communist, nor Marxist, not Maoist, not Anarchy, not Anarcho-Communism or any of that other group.
Here's a shocker for you, Jin.
7 Core Principles of Conservatism | U.S. Congressman Mike Johnson
mikejohnson.house.gov
- Individual Freedom...
- Limited Government. ...
- The Rule of Law. ...
- Peace through Strength. ...
- Fiscal Responsibility. ...
- Free Markets. ...
- Human Dignity.
All those listed above? Yeah, I agree with some of those. Individual Freedom. Limited Government. Rule of Law. Human Dignity. The others... those are up for debate/discussion. Of course, that's American Conservativism and Canadian is usually different.
Living in a Conservative province, if what we're experiencing here is supposed to be Conservative values, then only insane people would want to be part of that shitshow.
I'll agree, blaming only Brexit for shortages was stupid; it wasn't only Brexit and the shortages weren't just in Britain.
One of the main reasons for Brexit was the monolithic slug which is the EU body. As a trading group it is not a bad idea. As a way to promote political causes in such a diverse group it is an expensive failure. Basically, it took sovereignty away from the member countries and puts near total control in the hands of a group of unelected and mostly unanswerable bureaucrats.
went back and found the original study and that part of the article got it wrong somehow. So I was wrong. (sort of - the article DID say that). Serryah's article DID say that more than 50 percent supported it but the one i posted referred to a study that, when broken down by area did NOT say what the article said. I should have dug into that more before opening up my yap but i didn't. I could point out that the model they use is odd but that's kind of beside the point. I'm not scared to admit when i screw up.