2022 World Cup

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ARGENTINA WIN THE WORLD CUP!​

FT: Argentina 3-3 France AET (4-2 on pens)

Montiel's shirt is off! He's blubbing his eyes out!

On the centre spot, a group of his team-mates drop to their knees and embrace each other as a few others run in the direction of Montiel and Martinez!

This ground is going wild! What a game they have been treated to! What a game we've all been treated to!

 

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French President Macron is on the pitch consoling Mbappe, who has just become only the second player after England's Geoff Hurst to score three goals in a World Cup Final, but has ended up losing.
 

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Aguero joins celebrations​

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FT: Argentina 3-3 France AET (4-2 on pens)

Look at Sergio Aguero in the background, behind Lionel Messi, celebrating!

The former Manchester City striker may have been leading the line for Argentina in this World Cup if he hadn't suffered heart problems last season, that forced him to retire.

 

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Live footage of thousands celebrating in the summer sunshine of Buenos Aires after Argentina win the World Cup...

 

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After an illustrious career, which has seen him win almost everything in football and become one of the greatest players in history, Lionel Messi puts the cherry on the cake by winning the big one tonight. It's a fairytale. Here he is lifting the World Cup...

 

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England 1966 World Cup winner Sir Geoff Hurst was the only player to score three goals in a World Cup Final until today.

However, all three of Hurst's goals came from open play whereas two of Mbappe's were penalties, and Mbappe has the dubious distinction of being the first player to score three goals in a World Cup Final and lose.

 

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agreed. they should have 45 minute periods until a team wins. ⚽ 💡

The game could end up lasting for hours if they did that.

I've just watched a video - "Has every FIFA World Cup been fixed?" - which basically talks about how FIFA may fix World Cups to try to get the team it wants to win to win.

Interesting that this World Cup Final featured Messi for Argentina and Mbappe for France who are both Paris Saint-Germain teammates, and Paris Saint-Germain are owned by the Qataris. Argentina have been awarded lots of penalties in the tournament and the England Vs France Quarter Final was clearly fixed in France's favour.

 

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I see three ways other than PKs to decide a match. . .

1) Successive 10-minute overtimes. Play one, if it's still a draw at the end, play another, etc. This is what they do in NBA basketball (the overtimes are five minutes each).

2) Sudden death. You play until there's a goal, under the regular rules. First goal wins.

3) Corners. One side gets a corner kick, then they play until there's a goal or the defense clears the ball beyond the mid-pitch line. Then the other team tries it. Either sudden death or the other side gets one chance to respond.
 
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I see three ways other than PKs to decide a match. . .

1) Successive 10-minute overtimes. Play one, if it's still a draw at the end, play another, etc. This is what they do in NBA basketball (the overtimes are five minutes each).

2) Sudden death. You play until there's a goal, under the regular rules. First goal wins.

3) Corners. One side gets a corner kick, then they play until there's a goal or the defense clears the ball beyond the mid-pitch line. Then the other team tries it. Either sudden death or the other side gets one chance to respond.

Don't forget that players are humans and get tired. There's only a certain amount of time that players can run around chasing a ball. If after 90 minutes they keep playing successive 10 minute bouts then they could end up playing another 90 minutes or 180 minutes until they get a goal.

For several years they had sudden death in the European Championships. When a match went to extra time the first goal won. It was called Golden Goal. In Euro 2004 Sol Campbell for England scored a Golden Goal in the Quarter Final against Portugal but the referee wrongly disallowed it. Portugal went on to win the game in a penalty shootout, with their goalkeeper scoring the winning penalty. Eventually UEFA got rid of it, probably because it was viewed as unfair.

Penalty shootouts were introduced in 1970. Before then, knockout matches that finished a tie were either decided by the drawing of lots or went to a replay. The 1966 World Cup Final finished 2-2 after 90 minutes and went to extra time and would have been replayed a few days later if it has finished a tie after extra time.

Israeli Yosef Dagan is credited with originating the modern shoot-out, after watching the Israeli team lose a 1968 Olympic quarter-final game against Bulgaria by drawing of lots in Mexico. Michael Almog, later president of the Israel Football Association, described Dagan's proposal in a letter published in FIFA News in August 1969. Koe Ewe Teik, the FA Malaysia's member of the referee's committee, led the move for its adoption by FIFA. FIFA's proposal was discussed on 20 February 1970 by a working party of the International Football Association Board (IFAB), which recommended its acceptance, although "not entirely satisfied" with it. It was adopted at IFAB's annual general meeting on 27 June 1970.

In England, the first penalty shoot-out in a professional match took place in 1970 at Boothferry Park, Hull, between Hull City and Manchester United during the semi-final of the Watney Cup, and was won by Manchester United. The first player to take a kick was George Best, and the first to miss was Denis Law. Ian McKechnie, who saved Law's kick, was also the first goalkeeper to take a kick; his shot hit the crossbar and deflected over, putting Hull City out of the Cup.


Penalty shoot-outs were used to decide matches in UEFA's European Cup and Cup Winners' Cup in the 1970–71 season. On 30 September 1970, after a 4–4 aggregate draw in the first round of the Cup Winners' Cup, Honvéd won the first shoot-out 5–4 against Aberdeen, when Jim Forrest's shot hit the bar. Five weeks later, on 4 November 1970, the first ever European Cup shoot out took place between Everton F.C. and Borussia Mönchengladbach, with the side from England this time being the winners 4–3.

 
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