Conservatives demanding O'Toole resign again
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It was just a question. No ill intent.i post the occasional article if its an update or if i think it might be of some interest. i comment occasionally. i dont comment often do to the volatility here. the tower hardware is old and doesnt work well with the board and internet. i have often tried to post and the tower crashes, restarts or shuts down.
I fully understand the "volatility" here.
No you don't, you ignorant retarded scumbag!It was just a question. No ill intent.
I fully understand the "volatility" here.
It's good that a leaders status be questioned. It is too bad that anyone questions Trudeaus leadership is banished from the party....
LILLEY: Tory caucus to determine O'Toole's fate on Wednesday
Author of the article:Brian Lilley
Publishing date:Feb 01, 2022 • 6 hours ago • 3 minute read • 18 Comments
Canada's Conservative Party leader Erin O'Toole speaks to the media about the government's economic update on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada December 14, 2021.
Canada's Conservative Party leader Erin O'Toole speaks to the media about the government's economic update on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada December 14, 2021. PHOTO BY BLAIR GABLE /REUTERS
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Erin O’Toole’s future is now in the hands of the Conservative caucus.
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The 119 Tories elected to the House of Commons, including O’Toole himself, will meet on Parliament Hill on Wednesday morning to decide his fate.
O’Toole has only been leader since August 2020, just 17 months, but his future is now on the line in an unprecedented showdown.
In some ways, this meeting of the Conservative caucus will be like a married couple meeting one last time to decide whether to keep trying or to file for divorce.
On the one side is the leader, feeling undermined by supporters of a past rival and sure that others are plotting against him. On the other side, MPs who feel that trust between the back benches and the leader has been broken.
O’Toole ran for leader as a true blue Conservative, painting his main rival Peter MacKay as Liberal light. After securing the leadership, he didn’t just run to the centre, some would say he sprinted past it in an attempt to outflank the Liberals.
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What O’Toole sees as an attempt to modernize the Conservative Party and bring it to the centre, others see as his attempt to turn the Conservatives into Liberals in blue ties.
For the Tory backbenchers leading the charge to oust O’Toole, it’s all about respect or a lack thereof.
For them, O’Toole has been high-handed in making decisions such as adopting a carbon tax after promising not to. They view O’Toole‘s flip-flops on this, on gun policy, and on so many other issues, as an impediment to being able to win, while O’Toole views their reluctance to go along with his changes as a refusal to modernize.
Like so many couples faced with the option of continuing to work at it or heading to divorce court, the perspectives from each side couldn’t be more different from one another.
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In phone calls with caucus members and party strategists, each side claims to have the numbers for victory. For the challengers to win, all they need is 60 votes.
They’ve already had 35 MPs sign the letter asking for the confidence vote in the leader, and some are claiming 63 MPs or more will vote against O’Toole.
If that happens, O’Toole is done as leader immediately. An interim leader will be chosen later that day and a full leadership race set in motion.
In theory, O’Toole only needs 60 votes for him to stay on as leader, but in reality, he needs more.
Even having 35 caucus members come out to say he should be turfed is a serious challenge to his leadership, so he needs to win decisively.
At times, O’Toole’s camp has claimed between 70-80 members backing the leader; he would need on the upper end in order to stay on without a cloud continuing to hang over his tenure.
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O’Toole and his camp are counting on what they describe as the silent majority within the caucus who want to focus on defeating the Trudeau Liberals rather than party infighting.
It didn’t have to get to this point. O’Toole should have taken decisive action after losing the election.
Firing someone like Dan Robertson, the man who designed the unpopular carbon tax plan, is one example of action he could have taken to placate an angry party base after the loss.
Instead, Robertson is back in the fold working with O’Toole’s top team, which is often described as arrogant and aloof from caucus.
Managing a caucus is always a difficult job, especially for an opposition leader who doesn’t have the trappings of being in power to keep MPs happy. Yet this is the leader’s job.
The fact it has come to this demonstrates O’Toole’s lack of connection with the MPs he is supposed to lead, and that he has done a poor job of caucus management.
If he survives this vote, he needs to mend fences and start listening to the people he is supposed to lead.
If he loses, that becomes the headache of the next leader.
torontosun.com
Author of the article:Brian Lilley
Publishing date:Feb 01, 2022 • 6 hours ago • 3 minute read • 18 Comments
Canada's Conservative Party leader Erin O'Toole speaks to the media about the government's economic update on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada December 14, 2021.
Canada's Conservative Party leader Erin O'Toole speaks to the media about the government's economic update on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada December 14, 2021. PHOTO BY BLAIR GABLE /REUTERS
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Erin O’Toole’s future is now in the hands of the Conservative caucus.
Advertisement
STORY CONTINUES BELOW
Article content
The 119 Tories elected to the House of Commons, including O’Toole himself, will meet on Parliament Hill on Wednesday morning to decide his fate.
O’Toole has only been leader since August 2020, just 17 months, but his future is now on the line in an unprecedented showdown.
In some ways, this meeting of the Conservative caucus will be like a married couple meeting one last time to decide whether to keep trying or to file for divorce.
On the one side is the leader, feeling undermined by supporters of a past rival and sure that others are plotting against him. On the other side, MPs who feel that trust between the back benches and the leader has been broken.
O’Toole ran for leader as a true blue Conservative, painting his main rival Peter MacKay as Liberal light. After securing the leadership, he didn’t just run to the centre, some would say he sprinted past it in an attempt to outflank the Liberals.
Advertisement
STORY CONTINUES BELOW
Article content
What O’Toole sees as an attempt to modernize the Conservative Party and bring it to the centre, others see as his attempt to turn the Conservatives into Liberals in blue ties.
For the Tory backbenchers leading the charge to oust O’Toole, it’s all about respect or a lack thereof.
For them, O’Toole has been high-handed in making decisions such as adopting a carbon tax after promising not to. They view O’Toole‘s flip-flops on this, on gun policy, and on so many other issues, as an impediment to being able to win, while O’Toole views their reluctance to go along with his changes as a refusal to modernize.
Like so many couples faced with the option of continuing to work at it or heading to divorce court, the perspectives from each side couldn’t be more different from one another.
Advertisement
STORY CONTINUES BELOW
Article content
In phone calls with caucus members and party strategists, each side claims to have the numbers for victory. For the challengers to win, all they need is 60 votes.
They’ve already had 35 MPs sign the letter asking for the confidence vote in the leader, and some are claiming 63 MPs or more will vote against O’Toole.
If that happens, O’Toole is done as leader immediately. An interim leader will be chosen later that day and a full leadership race set in motion.
In theory, O’Toole only needs 60 votes for him to stay on as leader, but in reality, he needs more.
Even having 35 caucus members come out to say he should be turfed is a serious challenge to his leadership, so he needs to win decisively.
At times, O’Toole’s camp has claimed between 70-80 members backing the leader; he would need on the upper end in order to stay on without a cloud continuing to hang over his tenure.
Advertisement
STORY CONTINUES BELOW
Article content
O’Toole and his camp are counting on what they describe as the silent majority within the caucus who want to focus on defeating the Trudeau Liberals rather than party infighting.
It didn’t have to get to this point. O’Toole should have taken decisive action after losing the election.
Firing someone like Dan Robertson, the man who designed the unpopular carbon tax plan, is one example of action he could have taken to placate an angry party base after the loss.
Instead, Robertson is back in the fold working with O’Toole’s top team, which is often described as arrogant and aloof from caucus.
Managing a caucus is always a difficult job, especially for an opposition leader who doesn’t have the trappings of being in power to keep MPs happy. Yet this is the leader’s job.
The fact it has come to this demonstrates O’Toole’s lack of connection with the MPs he is supposed to lead, and that he has done a poor job of caucus management.
If he survives this vote, he needs to mend fences and start listening to the people he is supposed to lead.
If he loses, that becomes the headache of the next leader.
LILLEY: Tory caucus to determine O'Toole's fate on Wednesday
Erin O’Toole’s future is now in the hands of the Conservative caucus.
If Conservatives want a good leader, they should go for this Calgary gal:
Actually we didn't. The eastern part of the party did. The tool was not popular in the west, and his behaviour is exactly why.
Unfortunately he is probably right. Especially since most of the media has been bought off with taxpayer's money.
Most often it is the management that needs to be fired, not the quarterback.
Great that means she must be another progressive, just what the country needs .