Petition to Remove Churchill Street Name

[B00Mer]

Petition to Remove Churchill Street Name

So, the first leader to declare war on Hitler and Nazism is under fire with calls to change the name of Sir Winston Churchill Blvd. Thoughts?

Online petition calls for renaming of Winston Churchill Boulevard in Mississauga

According to the petition, which was started by Suzan Albaz, the street and bus station named after Winston Churchill is in contradiction of what the city says streets cannot be named after.

www.mississauga.com

 

[Jinentonix]

Well, how about we get rid of our racist PM first before we worry about street names and shit.

 

[Blackleaf]

Petition to Remove Churchill Street Name

So, the first leader to declare war on Hitler and Nazism is under fire with calls to change the name of Sir Winston Churchill Blvd. Thoughts?

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Online petition calls for renaming of Winston Churchill Boulevard in Mississauga

According to the petition, which was started by Suzan Albaz, the street and bus station named after Winston Churchill is in contradiction of what the city says streets cannot be named after.

www.mississauga.com

Lefties:

"Churchill, the man who fought fascists, was a fascist."

 

[Blackleaf]

From the petition:

Churchill has advocated the use of chemical weapons - primarily against Kurds and Afghans.

"I cannot understand this squeamishness about the use of gas," he wrote in a memo during his role as minister for war and air in 1919.

"I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes,” he continued.

The controversy (over this comment) is misplaced, says Warren Dockter, a research fellow at the University of Cambridge and the author of Winston Churchill and the Islamic World. "What he was proposing to use in Mesopotamia was lachrymatory gas, which is essentially tear gas, not mustard gas."

Churchill's 1919 memo continued: "The moral effect should be so good that the loss of life should be reduced to a minimum. It is not necessary to use only the most deadly gasses: gasses can be used which cause great inconvenience and would spread a lively terror and yet would leave no serious permanent effect on most of those affected."

In another memo about using gas against Afghans, Dockter says, Churchill questioned why a British soldier could be killed lying wounded on the ground while it was supposedly unfair "to fire a shell which makes the said native sneeze - it really is too silly".

The 10 greatest controversies of Winston Churchill's career

The UK is marking the 50th anniversary of of Winston Churchill's death. Many regard him as the greatest Briton, but for some he remains intensely controversial.

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From the petition:

“I hate the Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion.”

Churchill was annoyed with the Indians during the war because he felt they were ungrateful to the British and that they weren't pulling their weight.

The view of Indian historian Dr. Tirthankar Roy, in How British Rule Changed India’s Economy:

The context for almost everything he said about Indians and the Empire was related to the Indian nationalist movement. Negotiating with Indian nationalists during the war could be pointless and dangerous because the moderate nationalists were demoralized by dissensions and the radical nationalists wanted the Axis powers to win on the Eastern Front. No prime minister would be willing to fight a war and negotiate with the nationalists at the same time.

Against this, the balanced jury may wish to consider what Churchill said about “the glorious heroism and martial qualities” of Indian soldiers, “both Moslem and Hindu,” in the Second World War:

Upwards of two and a half million Indians volunteered to serve in the forces, and by 1942 an Indian Army of one million was in being, and volunteers were coming in at the monthly rate of fifty thousand…. the response of the Indian peoples, no less than the conduct of their soldiers, makes a glorious final page in the story of our Indian Empire.

Hearsay Doesn’t Count: The Truth about Churchill’s “Racist Epithets”

Churchill's racial epithets were extremely rare. Most of the few that do exist come from only one source—which leads one to question how reliable it is.

winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu

 

[Blackleaf]

 

[Colpy]

To me, there would only be one possible answer to this "petition".

"Listen, you drooling group of particularly disadvantaged dimwits, Winston Churchill saved Europe and the world from the depredations of the one of the worst regimes to ever exist on earth. He was the greatest man of the twentieth century. Read a little history, then contemplate where you would be today if he had never existed. Then, GFY"

The reason I am not a politician.

 

[Danbones]

He was also a founding father of the EU ( along with actual NAZIs ), and now Britain can't get far enough away from it, so he doomed it to death too.

Founding fathers of the European Union - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The European Union is based on the Nazi plans published in Berlin in 1942.”

In 2008, director of the Freenations website Rodney Atkinson — former British Ministerial Adviser, author, and lecturer at University of Mainz in Germany — sent out the following press release:

26th June 2008 - “THE NAZIS AND FASCISTS WHO FOUNDED THE EUROPEAN UNION - AND THEIR INFLUENCE TODAY: RECORDING ON CD of a speech given at a public meeting at the House of Commons in February 2008 chaired by Philip Davies MP by Rodney Atkinson

“NAZI LEADERSHIP OFFICER” BECAME FIRST HEAD OF THE EUROPEAN COMMISSION IN 1957
In the cd “The Nazis and Fascists who founded the European Union”…Rodney Atkinson tells the detailed story of an unmentionable truth — that:
“The EU was founded and initially led by ‘former’ Nazis and Fascists, as was the Charlemagne Prize awarded to Tony Blair, Edward Heath, Roy Jenkins and others for their role in removing democratic sovereignty from the nation states of Europe.” No wonder, says Atkinson, that the EU has today reproduced the policies and structures of 1940s Europe and shows all the characteristics of a totalitarian anti democratic corporatist Empire — for that is what its fascist founders intended.

Account Suspended

juliagorin.com

Yeah I know, certain bankers would like you to not notice stuff like that because they are in the middle of doing it to the US NOW while branding Trump and his supporters as "NAZIs".

 

[Blackleaf]

He was also a founding father of the EU ( along with actual NAZIs ), and now Britain can't get far enough away from it, so he doomed it to death too.

Founding fathers of the European Union - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

He didn't want Britain to be part of a united Europe.

 

[Danbones]

That does not sound like a good reason to be a founding father of the EU BL.

Yet, Churchill’s actions spoke louder than his lack of words. When Eden resigned as prime minister in 1957, the Queen consulted Churchill on a successor. He recommended Macmillan, a leading pro-European. Similarly, he took every opportunity to support the career of Edward Heath, who was ultimately to take Britain into the EEC in 1972.

What Churchill really thought about Britain’s place in Europe

Winston Churchill’s role in fostering European unity is beyond dispute in Brussels. The European Union’s website lists Churchill as one of 11 founding fathers of the organisation. In Strasbourg, the European…

theconversation.com

He did a lot of talking at times as his famous quotes indicate, but actions speak louder than words.

In any case the whole deal is run by bankers, just like the push for global nazicommiefascism is today and has been since the Rothschilds took over Britain when Napoleon was defeated.

 

[Blackleaf]

Worse, there is a frequent tendency to mis-attribute Churchill’s declaration that: “We are with Europe, but not of it” to one or other of these speeches. In actual fact, these words date from a Saturday Evening Post article Churchill wrote in 1930, in which he also first advanced his support for the idea of a “United States of Europe”.

It doesn't matter when he said it. He still said it.

For Churchill, as for the overwhelming majority of the British establishment in those early postwar decades, the British empire (and the Commonwealth that succeeded it) and the “special relationship” with the US, were the nation’s two most important strategic priorities. Nato was seen in London as much the most important alliance in Europe. The Common Market, launched in 1957 by the Treaty of Rome, was seen as largely irrelevant to national security.

Historic misunderstanding underlies UK-EU relationship on Churchill anniversary

The irony of the Brexit decision is that it will mean a lot more EU on the UK’s agenda

www.google.com

 

[Danbones]

He was a politician, talk is cheap, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.


If you look, You will find the "city of London" is also behind the Chinese these days as well.

Greater China - City of London

The City of London has been active in China more than 10 years, and has representative offices in Beijing and Shanghai.

www.cityoflondon.gov.uk

( and that is just on the surface)

All wars are banker wars.

My father always wondered why he was fighting better ford trucks in ww2 than we had.

Ford and GM Scrutinized for Alleged Nazi Collaboration

German diplomats award Henry Ford, center, with their nation's highest decoration for foreigners, the Grand Cross of the German Eagle, in July 1938. (AP Photo)

By Michael Dobbs
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, November 30, 1998; Page A01

Three years after Swiss banks became the target of a worldwide furor over their business dealings with Nazi Germany, major American car companies find themselves embroiled in a similar debate.

Like the Swiss banks, the American car companies have vigorously denied that they assisted the Nazi war machine or that they significantly profited from the use of forced labor at their German subsidiaries during World War II. But historians and lawyers researching class-action suits on behalf of former prisoners of war are busy amassing evidence of collaboration by the automakers with the Nazi regime.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/nov98/nazicars30.htm

Oh look, there is F*Khed from the WEF..."you will own nothing and you will like it..."

Welcome to 2030.

 

[petros]

Are there Credit Unions backing wars or just banks?

 

[Blackleaf]

He was a politician, talk is cheap, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.


If you look, You will find the "city of London" is also behind the Chinese these days as well.

Greater China - City of London

The City of London has been active in China more than 10 years, and has representative offices in Beijing and Shanghai.

www.cityoflondon.gov.uk

( and that is just on the surface)

All wars are banker wars.

My father always wondered why he was fighting better ford trucks in ww2 than we had.

Ford and GM Scrutinized for Alleged Nazi Collaboration

German diplomats award Henry Ford, center, with their nation's highest decoration for foreigners, the Grand Cross of the German Eagle, in July 1938. (AP Photo)

By Michael Dobbs
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, November 30, 1998; Page A01

Three years after Swiss banks became the target of a worldwide furor over their business dealings with Nazi Germany, major American car companies find themselves embroiled in a similar debate.

Like the Swiss banks, the American car companies have vigorously denied that they assisted the Nazi war machine or that they significantly profited from the use of forced labor at their German subsidiaries during World War II. But historians and lawyers researching class-action suits on behalf of former prisoners of war are busy amassing evidence of collaboration by the automakers with the Nazi regime.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/nov98/nazicars30.htm

Oh look, there is F*Khed from the WEF..."you will own nothing and you will like it..."

Welcome to 2030.

American Nazis in the 1930s—The German American Bund

In the United States, the German American Bund, an American Nazi organization, was formed in 1936, and soon grew to have tens of thousands of members.

www.google.com

 

[Mowich]

Petition to Remove Churchill Street Name

So, the first leader to declare war on Hitler and Nazism is under fire with calls to change the name of Sir Winston Churchill Blvd. Thoughts?

View attachment 5827

Online petition calls for renaming of Winston Churchill Boulevard in Mississauga

According to the petition, which was started by Suzan Albaz, the street and bus station named after Winston Churchill is in contradiction of what the city says streets cannot be named after.

www.mississauga.com

"....The city’s website cites street names will not be accepted ..." Fact is that this applies to names being proposed for new streets. The current name of the Blvd was chosen long ago. The cancel culture bs is really getting old.

 

[Danbones]

History is a complicated thing...


"GEORGE W BUSH installed a bust of Winston Churchill in the Oval Office at the White House. When Barack Obama came to power he had the bust returned to Britain.

Obama’s Kenyan grandfather, Hussein Onyango Obama, was imprisoned in one of the concentration camps Churchill and his imperialists had invented.

Churchill was born in 1874 into a Britain that was painting huge areas of the world map bloody red.

Just three years later Victoria crowned herself Empress of India, and the rape and pillage that would mark Britain’s advance across Africa and much more of the globe moved up a gear.

At Harrow School and then Sandhurst the young Winston learnt the simple message: the superior white man was conquering the primitive, dark-skinned natives, and bringing them the benefits of Christian civilisation.

Kenyan leader Jomo Kenyatta and later Archbishop Desmond Tutu would sum it up in a beautiful single paragraph.

“When the British missionaries arrived, we Africans had the land and the minerals and the missionaries had the Bible. They taught us how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible.”

As soon as he could, Churchill charged off to take his part in these various barbarous and criminal adventures. He described them as “a lot of jolly little wars against barbarous peoples.”

First came the Swat Valley, now part of Pakistan. Here he judged his enemy were merely “deranged jihadists” whose violence was explained by a “strong aboriginal propensity to kill.”

He gladly took part in raids that laid waste to whole valleys, destroying houses and burning crops.

Next he popped up in Sudan, where he boasted that he personally shot at least three “savages.”

The young Churchill played his part enthusiastically in all kinds of imperial atrocities. When concentration camps were built in South Africa, for white Boers, he said they produced “the minimum of suffering.” The Boer death toll was in fact almost 28,000.

At least 115,000 black Africans were swept into British camps, where 14,000 died. Churchill wrote of his “irritation that kaffirs should be allowed to fire on white men.” By now he was an MP and demanding a rolling programme of more imperialist conquests.

“The Aryan stock is bound to triumph,” was his battle cry."

The horrible truth about Winston Churchill

A recent film and media reviews are busy singing the praises of Winston Churchill. PETER FROST begs to differ

morningstaronline.co.uk

Aryan comes from the pharaoh Iry Hor aka Ro...whom Queen Elizabeth the second claims decent from, as do all the ROyalty related to her.
Ro is also know as RA - the Egyptians left out the vowels, One must rely on the phonetic roots which are very present in the modern English language as we know it today. Iry being pronounced as Ary among other variations being the root of many many words as are roots like Hor and of course Ro and Ra as well.

 

[B00Mer]

I knew you would love this thread Blackie *snicker*

 

[Danbones]

Well, it is a topic with lots of room for debate. But having said that, Don't we have Mao important things for government to worry about?

 

[Blackleaf]

History is a complicated thing...


"GEORGE W BUSH installed a bust of Winston Churchill in the Oval Office at the White House. When Barack Obama came to power he had the bust returned to Britain.

Obama’s Kenyan grandfather, Hussein Onyango Obama, was imprisoned in one of the concentration camps Churchill and his imperialists had invented.

Churchill was born in 1874 into a Britain that was painting huge areas of the world map bloody red.

Just three years later Victoria crowned herself Empress of India, and the rape and pillage that would mark Britain’s advance across Africa and much more of the globe moved up a gear.

At Harrow School and then Sandhurst the young Winston learnt the simple message: the superior white man was conquering the primitive, dark-skinned natives, and bringing them the benefits of Christian civilisation.

Kenyan leader Jomo Kenyatta and later Archbishop Desmond Tutu would sum it up in a beautiful single paragraph.

“When the British missionaries arrived, we Africans had the land and the minerals and the missionaries had the Bible. They taught us how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible.”

As soon as he could, Churchill charged off to take his part in these various barbarous and criminal adventures. He described them as “a lot of jolly little wars against barbarous peoples.”

First came the Swat Valley, now part of Pakistan. Here he judged his enemy were merely “deranged jihadists” whose violence was explained by a “strong aboriginal propensity to kill.”

He gladly took part in raids that laid waste to whole valleys, destroying houses and burning crops.

Next he popped up in Sudan, where he boasted that he personally shot at least three “savages.”

The young Churchill played his part enthusiastically in all kinds of imperial atrocities. When concentration camps were built in South Africa, for white Boers, he said they produced “the minimum of suffering.” The Boer death toll was in fact almost 28,000.

At least 115,000 black Africans were swept into British camps, where 14,000 died. Churchill wrote of his “irritation that kaffirs should be allowed to fire on white men.” By now he was an MP and demanding a rolling programme of more imperialist conquests.

Churchill and the British did not invent concentration camps.

As for the Mao Mao - including Obama's grandfather - they were terrorists and mass murderers.

 

[Blackleaf]

The young Churchill played his part enthusiastically in all kinds of imperial atrocities. When concentration camps were built in South Africa, for white Boers, he said they produced “the minimum of suffering.” The Boer death toll was in fact almost 28,000.

At least 115,000 black Africans were swept into British camps, where 14,000 died. Churchill wrote of his “irritation that kaffirs should be allowed to fire on white men.” By now he was an MP and demanding a rolling programme of more imperialist conquests.

The horrible truth about Winston Churchill

A recent film and media reviews are busy singing the praises of Winston Churchill. PETER FROST begs to differ

morningstaronline.co.uk

Churchill himself was interred in a concentration camp - by the Boers.

Hundreds of British soldiers perished in Boer concentration camps like Nooitgedacht. Churchill, of course, survived because he managed to escape.

These Boer concentration camps to house British prisoners are usually overlooked by modern historians because it's fashionable and convenient to do so.

And the British did not "commit atrocities" at their concentration camps. The Boer were wiped out by disease like measles and cholera.

 

[Danbones]

"After his train was derailed by Boer artillery shelling, he was captured as a prisoner of war (POW) and interned in a Boer POW camp in Pretoria."

Winston Churchill - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I could see him being a "prisoner of war", but that would not qualify as a "concentration camp" which the Brits are known to have invented for THE CIVILIANS in the Boer war in the interests of their triumph of the "Aryans".


As to the causes of Boer deaths which made the Brits notable in the second Boer war::

Lord Kitchener initiated plans to flush out guerrillas in a series of systematic drives, organized like a sporting shoot, with success defined by a weekly 'bag' of killed, captured and wounded, and sweep the country bare of everything that could give sustenance to the guerrillas, including women and children ... It was the clearance of civilians—uprooting a whole nation—that would come to dominate the last phase of the war.[2]

Second Boer War concentration camps - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ummm....killing civilians as a military tactic - especially women and children, is considered to be extremely low. Then there is the historical "narrative" that supports it.