A Rational Conversation about Climate Change

[captain morgan]

QED. Answer to whom?

Answer to Mother Gaia via her mandates in Al Gore, Suzuki, Greta, the UN, etc, etc

 

[captain morgan]

Probably won't work. Despite amendments we still can't keep religion and state separate.

If by religion, you're referring to the cult of global warming, then you'd be bang-on

 

[Avro52]

Is CO2 the foundation to life on our planet?

Rational discussion and you can't answer a simple question?

Thanks for proving my point.

 

[captain morgan]

CO2 has been 'identified' as a GHG.

Water vapor is considered the strongest of GHGs.

... So, is water (vapor) a toxic pollutant?

No answer?... Thanks for proving my point

 

[spilledthebeer]

CO2 has been 'identified' as a GHG.

Water vapor is considered the strongest of GHGs.

... So, is water (vapor) a toxic pollutant?

No answer?... Thanks for proving my point

Water vapour produced by "contrails' - those fleecy billowing trails of white that so often mark the flight path



of high flying aircraft are being INDICTED for making MAJOR CHANGES to our climate!


Contrails block sunlight and produce a MARKED REDUCTION in daytime heat!


The phenomenon was first studied in detail during WW2 - when the biggest air raid of the war - involving over 1500 Yankee B-17



bombers and over 1000 escort fighters assembled over Britain and climbed to their operational height of 35,000 ft and then went off to



Germany! With the result that air temperature on the ground in England PLUNGED by 15 degrees in a few hours!



Grumpy Greta the Demon Swede is right about ONE THING! That air travel IS BAD for the environment!


That Swedish group known as "Flight Shame" IS ON TO SOMETHING as they try to get us to ride trains instead of airplanes!

 

[captain morgan]

Not just contrails, regular old water vapor, according to the crooks at the IPCC, is the biggest contributor to the green house effect

 

[Avro52]

CO2 has been 'identified' as a GHG.
Water vapor is considered the strongest of GHGs.
... So, is water (vapor) a toxic pollutant?
No answer?... Thanks for proving my point

Water vapour is not a toxic pollutant and neither is CO2.

What was your point?

 

[captain morgan]

Your simple question was answered and the point of the follow up question was to highlight the absurdity of the base premise to begin with

 

[Avro52]

Your simple question was answered and the point of the follow up question was to highlight the absurdity of the base premise to begin with

I didn't ask you.

Are you speaking for Mr. Moose?

 

[captain morgan]

You should have PM'd him if you didn't want the entire forum to see

 

[pgs]

You should have PM'd him if you didn't want the entire forum to see

Open forums tend to be like that .

 

[Avro52]

You should have PM'd him if you didn't want the entire forum to see

Fair point.

 

[taxslave]

Water vapour produced by "contrails' - those fleecy billowing trails of white that so often mark the flight path
of high flying aircraft are being INDICTED for making MAJOR CHANGES to our climate!
Contrails block sunlight and produce a MARKED REDUCTION in daytime heat!
The phenomenon was first studied in detail during WW2 - when the biggest air raid of the war - involving over 1500 Yankee B-17
bombers and over 1000 escort fighters assembled over Britain and climbed to their operational height of 35,000 ft and then went off to
Germany! With the result that air temperature on the ground in England PLUNGED by 15 degrees in a few hours!
Grumpy Greta the Demon Swede is right about ONE THING! That air travel IS BAD for the environment!
That Swedish group known as "Flight Shame" IS ON TO SOMETHING as they try to get us to ride trains instead of airplanes!

That should mean the globull warming truthers would like air travel. After all they are concerned about the earth getting too hot and contrails will lower the temperature.

 

[Gilgamesh]

I'll go along with that but one cannot protest oil and shill for solar at the same time. There are places where solar power has been a great lift for the population but it will not replace, or even put a dent in the need for oil and gas in my lifetime. There are also a lot of fossil fuel protesters tha end up pushing for nuclear instead. IMHO nuclear is the worst power source imaginable.

Since in fact nuclear is one of the best and safest alternatives, then we may safely assume that the rest of your post is also wrong.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Water vapour produced by "contrails' - those fleecy billowing trails of white that so often mark the flight path
of high flying aircraft are being INDICTED for making MAJOR CHANGES to our climate!

That's pretty foxing stupid. Contrails don't produce water, they just condense it out of the air. Hence "condensation trails," abbreviated to "contrails."

 

[petros]

Probably won't work. Despite amendments we still can't keep religion and state separate.

It is, just not in way you think it's supposed to be.

 

[Avro52]

The phenomenon was first studied in detail during WW2 - when the biggest air raid of the war - involving over 1500 Yankee B-17
bombers and over 1000 escort fighters assembled over Britain and climbed to their operational height of 35,000 ft and then went off to
Germany! With the result that air temperature on the ground in England PLUNGED by 15 degrees in a few hours!

I'd like to see the evidence of that.

 

[petros]

Water vapour is not a toxic pollutant and neither is CO2.
What was your point?

Too Much Carbon Dioxide Is Toxic
Symptoms of carbon dioxide toxicity include high blood pressure, flushed skin, headache and twitching muscles. At higher levels, you could experience panic, irregular heartbeat, hallucinations, vomited and potentially unconsciousness or even death.

 

[Twin_Moose]

If one read Boomer's article in the food shortage thread CO2 levels are too low right now and threatening smaller harvests this fall.

 

[petros]

Earth almost died. 20ppm from being carbon deficient.