Gun Control is Completely Useless.

[Colpy]

Should that have barred him from owning a gun, in your opinion?

That is a very good question.


And I am divided. I'm an old guy, and licensed to the gunwales........possession and acquisition for long guns, restricted weapons, and prohibited (grandfathered) military rifles.



But if they knew my history as a young man, if I had been convicted of 5% of what I did, they wouldn't let me near a sharp stick, much less a firearm. Which is completely irrelevant to who I am now, and have been for about 40 years.



As well, I had a brother-in-law (now deceased) who lived for hunting (and fishing) and spent every free moment in the woods. Losing his guns (long guns and handguns) would have seriously degraded his life. He was convicted (conditional discharge) of sexual assault back in the 80s. That's a long story, it was his ex-girlfriend that charged him, and I don't think he was guilty. However, I would have hated to have seen him denied. And he lived his life out without shooting anyone, or trying to. So all's well that ends well.



So, you see how I am torn. But yes, background checks should be for life, and issues of violence should at least be closely investigated during the background investigation...........and usually it should be seen as reason to deny the license.

 

[Twin_Moose]

He would have been denied owning a firearm for a set period of time until he proved that he was no longer a danger while on probation, however in that time he would have to have renewed his FAC/PAL and there must have been nothing new in his assessment. Or did he not renew or did he fail his PAL screening and no follow up to see if he got rid of his firearms performed? Hopefully the answers will be published for us all to see where the system failed.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

That is a very good question.
And I am divided. I'm an old guy, and licensed to the gunwales........possession and acquisition for long guns, restricted weapons, and prohibited (grandfathered) military rifles.
But if they knew my history as a young man, if I had been convicted of 5% of what I did, they wouldn't let me near a sharp stick, much less a firearm. Which is completely irrelevant to who I am now, and have been for about 40 years.
As well, I had a brother-in-law (now deceased) who lived for hunting (and fishing) and spent every free moment in the woods. Losing his guns (long guns and handguns) would have seriously degraded his life. He was convicted (conditional discharge) of sexual assault back in the 80s. That's a long story, it was his ex-girlfriend that charged him, and I don't think he was guilty. However, I would have hated to have seen him denied. And he lived his life out without shooting anyone, or trying to. So all's well that ends well.
So, you see how I am torn. But yes, background checks should be for life, and issues of violence should at least be closely investigated during the background investigation...........and usually it should be seen as reason to deny the license.

Seriously, I know it's nothing new for you, but thank you for a thoughtful, well-reasoned answer.

We need more of that around here.

I'd favor you for a local board deciding the close cases in permits.

 

[spilledthebeer]

Indeed. Where are some of the pictures of some of the people that have been killed? What is the media waiting for anyway?

It reminds me of the Sandy Hook killings where the media only showed the pictures of one of the families that supposedly had their kid killed in that shooting. I guess that if this had been a white guy who killed dozens of Muslims in Nova Scotia, we would all get to see the victims faces so we can all feel sorry for their families. Just saying.

Apparently that word "Muslim" is an Arabic word meaning certified NUTS!


It would be useful if you would donate your brain to science so its assorted ANOMALIES might be studied in depth!


What manner of madness prompts you to ask for photos of murdered people?

 

[JamesBondo]

so get this...for 12 hours the police were hunting an armed and dangerous person and the new emergency alert system was not activated.

So you might say that the emergency alert system is saved for really serious things, except last week they activated the emergency alert system for a generic covid announcement that was nothing we hadn't already seen for the last month and then some.

It makes me think that if there was a train derailment 10 miles away with a dangerous chemical spill, they wouldn't let me know about it.

 

[taxme]

Apparently that word "Muslim" is an Arabic word meaning certified NUTS!
It would be useful if you would donate your brain to science so its assorted ANOMALIES might be studied in depth!
What manner of madness prompts you to ask for photos of murdered people?

1. So then, are you a Muslim by chance? After all, you do appear to be quite "nuts" in the head like they are most times.

2. I should donate my brain to science so they can see as to how a real intelligent brain works. Then those scientists could then possibly help people like you to smarten up and stop talking like you are nuts all of the time. Ha-ha-ha!

Hey nuts. I see this done on TV in America all the time. Like I already said that if this was a bunch of Muslims being massacred the Canadian media would show all their faces so they can get people like you to go all sympathetic over and where you and the lying media can then say, see those dam white people are all just gun crazy killers and even racists.

Come on, eh, but you know that to be true? The media are always looking for an opportunity to show just how bad white people are. The CBC is especially great at that. They are always ready and waiting and looking for an opportunity to mock and attack white people. I bet that you are one of them, right?

 

[taxme]

so get this...for 12 hours the police were hunting an armed and dangerous person and the new emergency alert system was not activated.
So you might say that the emergency alert system is saved for really serious things, except last week they activated the emergency alert system for a generic covid announcement that was nothing we hadn't already seen for the last month and then some.
It makes me think that if there was a train derailment 10 miles away with a dangerous chemical spill, they wouldn't let me know about it.

Well, that does appear to be a bit weird as to why they did not alert the public. Indeed, it is very strange as to how our dear comrade leaders brains work an who constantly repeat over and over and over again ad nauseam about this pandemic but they ignored this one. But what can one expect from our dear comrade leaders who have no problem shutting down the border into Nova Scotia from the rest of Canada? As if this virus will not cross into Nova Scotia with the border closed or not.

Our politicians are strange and weird people indeed, and these politicians are being allowed to run and rule over this country. We the people have no say anymore as to how this country will go. We the people are pretty much told by our dear comrade leaders to just sit down and shut up. We run this country now, and not you, taxpayer. Now f off. So sad.

 

[taxme]

That is a very good question.
And I am divided. I'm an old guy, and licensed to the gunwales........possession and acquisition for long guns, restricted weapons, and prohibited (grandfathered) military rifles.
But if they knew my history as a young man, if I had been convicted of 5% of what I did, they wouldn't let me near a sharp stick, much less a firearm. Which is completely irrelevant to who I am now, and have been for about 40 years.
As well, I had a brother-in-law (now deceased) who lived for hunting (and fishing) and spent every free moment in the woods. Losing his guns (long guns and handguns) would have seriously degraded his life. He was convicted (conditional discharge) of sexual assault back in the 80s. That's a long story, it was his ex-girlfriend that charged him, and I don't think he was guilty. However, I would have hated to have seen him denied. And he lived his life out without shooting anyone, or trying to. So all's well that ends well.
So, you see how I am torn. But yes, background checks should be for life, and issues of violence should at least be closely investigated during the background investigation...........and usually it should be seen as reason to deny the license.

So much for gun control laws in Canada, eh? Why do people keep thinking that we need gun laws and that gun laws will help save lives? Gun laws do not stop anyone from killing someone else with a gun. The question that is always asked is will criminals bother to take gun lessons or register their guns and the answer is a big fat no. No bloody way, Jose.

It's f'n stupid to have gun laws but maybe you could tell me as to why or how we should have gun laws and licences to own a gun when criminals never will do any of those things? Even people with gun licences still kill people.

All gun laws have done has got the Canadian taxpayer's to have ended up wasting hundreds of billions of their tax dollars on a useless bunch of bureaucrats who will get paid for doing sweet f all. Just another government bureaucracy to hassle decent firearm's gun owners, and just make them pay another tax. Hello?

 

[pgs]

That is a very good question.


And I am divided. I'm an old guy, and licensed to the gunwales........possession and acquisition for long guns, restricted weapons, and prohibited (grandfathered) military rifles.



But if they knew my history as a young man, if I had been convicted of 5% of what I did, they wouldn't let me near a sharp stick, much less a firearm. Which is completely irrelevant to who I am now, and have been for about 40 years.



As well, I had a brother-in-law (now deceased) who lived for hunting (and fishing) and spent every free moment in the woods. Losing his guns (long guns and handguns) would have seriously degraded his life. He was convicted (conditional discharge) of sexual assault back in the 80s. That's a long story, it was his ex-girlfriend that charged him, and I don't think he was guilty. However, I would have hated to have seen him denied. And he lived his life out without shooting anyone, or trying to. So all's well that ends well.



So, you see how I am torn. But yes, background checks should be for life, and issues of violence should at least be closely investigated during the background investigation...........and usually it should be seen as reason to deny the license.

There is violence and there is violence .

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

so get this...for 12 hours the police were hunting an armed and dangerous person and the new emergency alert system was not activated.
So you might say that the emergency alert system is saved for really serious things, except last week they activated the emergency alert system for a generic covid announcement that was nothing we hadn't already seen for the last month and then some.
It makes me think that if there was a train derailment 10 miles away with a dangerous chemical spill, they wouldn't let me know about it.

But if you're anything like us, they'd be happy to put the entire state into a frenzy by putting out a "This Is Not A Drill" alert about an incoming nuclear attack.

 

[Colpy]

https://vocm.com/2020/04/22/april-2...ywuLCJnWXxpJD1K3_1JaNTbL46CLwsGqSrNv8Cc88Czkw

 

[JamesBondo]

https://vocm.com/2020/04/22/april-2...ywuLCJnWXxpJD1K3_1JaNTbL46CLwsGqSrNv8Cc88Czkw

I wonder if Hoid will try to get an entire city to vote yes.

 

[JamesBondo]

But if you're anything like us, they'd be happy to put the entire state into a frenzy by putting out a "This Is Not A Drill" alert about an incoming nuclear attack.

Appearantly a warning went out on facebook and twitter but nothing on the alert system so there was a huge gap of people that didn't know to be careful.

 

[DaSleeper]

I wonder if Hoid will try to get an entire city to vote yes.

It would depend what is meant by assault rifles...
Full autos and High capacity magazines are already against the law!

 

[pgs]

It would depend what is meant by assault rifles...
Full autos and High capacity magazines are already against the law!

Anything that looks scary . To gun grabbers the only use of a firearm is as a weapon . Any firearm that can be used as a weapon is scary and therefore be controlled and or outlawed . Assault weapon is the tip of the iceberg .
When guns are banned they will come after scary knives , and on to tomahawks, I mean axes , and when that no longer stops the carnage they will come for your pitchforks . If it safes just one child don’t you know . Politicians and celebrities will still hold onto their armed protective details of course .

 

[JamesBondo]

Anything that looks scary . To gun grabbers the only use of a firearm is as a weapon . Any firearm that can be used as a weapon is scary and therefore be controlled and or outlawed . Assault weapon is the tip of the iceberg .
When guns are banned they will come after scary knives , and on to tomahawks, I mean axes , and when that no longer stops the carnage they will come for your pitchforks . If it safes just one child don’t you know . Politicians and celebrities will still hold onto their armed protective details of course .

most of those are illegal in the UK.

IMO, Canada actually has a fairly sensible definition for a weapon because it is based in large on the intent of the knife holder, not the knife. And, not the blade length like in the US. Hence, a Canadian gang banger with a folding knife is a weapon, the same folding knife in a boy scout's pocket is not a weapon.

The same goes for a spade(shovel)...sometimes it is a weapon, sometimes a spade is just a spade.

 

[spilledthebeer]

so get this...for 12 hours the police were hunting an armed and dangerous person and the new emergency alert system was not activated.

So you might say that the emergency alert system is saved for really serious things, except last week they activated the emergency alert system for a generic covid announcement that was nothing we hadn't already seen for the last month and then some.

It makes me think that if there was a train derailment 10 miles away with a dangerous chemical spill, they wouldn't let me know about it.

LIE-berals are OBSESSED with "privacy laws" and also crippled by their bigoted assumption that ordinary people are stupid!


You can bet that LIE-berals CHOSE NOT to use the alert system to warn people there was an armed killer dressed as an RCMP


officer and driving a police car - roaming Nova Scotia - for POLITICAL REASONS!



No doubt LIE-berals would simply argue that if such a warning was sent out - that Cdn gun owners -



that LIE-berals HOLD IN CONTEMPT anyway - might shoot first and ask questions later and that some REAL cop might get shot!



At least that IS THE EXCUSE that LIE-berals would offer if pressed on this issue!



And of course LIE-berals are also VERY CRIPPLED in their thinking and actions by their notions of JUSTICE!


LIE-berals DESPISE independent public action on any issue! LIE-berals want us to be compliant and helpless and to turn to GOVT



FOR ALL OUR NEEDS - INCLUDING personal protection! Independent thought or action by members of the public on any subject is despised by LIE-berals!



The UGLY REALITY is that if some long rifle owning home owner had shot the mass killer EARLY ON - IT WOULD HAVE



WEAKENED the LIE-beral arguments about the "NEED" for "strengthening" gun laws!


By which LIE-berals really mean DISARMING the PUBLIC and making hunting and target shooting ILLEGAL! Whuile at the same time



LIE-berals would be IGNORING heavily armed gang bangers because real action against them is TO COSTLY and LIE-berals have



OTHER USES FOR THEIR GRAVY!



LIE-berals ran up ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS IN NEW DEBT between 2015 and 2019 and yet they FAILED TO BUY



enough votes to retain a majority govt! Buying votes AINT CHEAP!


LIE-berals have calculated that they can BUY MORE VOTES by banning guns than by tolerating hunters and target shooters!


The majority of legal gun owners live in relatively rural areas and are known TO BE GENERALLY HOSTILE to LIE-berals anyway



so no need for LIE-berals to worry about angering such people!



LIE-berals expect that there would be GREAT SUPPORT shown by animal lovers if hunting were banned!


And LIE-berals also expect STRONG approval from animal rights activists if they banned fishing as well!



LIE-berals also expect to get support from Radical Feminists who disapprove of any activity that males like - such as target shooting!


Radical Feminists are aware that women also target shoot and hunt and fish as well - but the Feminazis dismiss that female



participation as AN ABERRATION by brain washed females irrationally seeking neanderthal male attention!


Thus for a variety of QUITE SELFISH REASONS - LIE-berals CHOSE NOT to alert the public to the MASS KILLER!


There is ample evidence to suggest that LIE-berals believed that having the guy stopped by cops



INSTEAD OF BY SOME VIGILANTE WAS - in LIE-beral eyes - WORTH THE RISK to Cdn lives!


LIE-beral political expediency apparently TRUMPS the need for public safety!

 

[Colpy]

No gun law on earth would have prevented the tragedy in Nova Scotia. The shooter did not possess guns legally.


He did not have a Possession and Acquisition license, according to the MSM just a few minutes ago.

 

[gerryh]

No gun law on earth would have prevented the tragedy in Nova Scotia. The shooter did not possess guns legally.
He did not have a Possession and Acquisition license, according to the MSM just a few minutes ago.

Ya but but but.......

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

No gun law on earth would have prevented the tragedy in Nova Scotia. The shooter did not possess guns legally.
He did not have a Possession and Acquisition license, according to the MSM just a few minutes ago.

But a TOTAL BAN ON GUNS woulda stopped it!

Just like the TOTAL BAN ON HEROIN AND COCAINE have kept the U.S. and Canada heroin- and cocaine-free for a century!