Andrew Scheer resigning as leader of Conservatives

Decapoda

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Well, this seems to be the sum measure of a politicians electability these days. The pathetic and immature superficiality of political qualifications and expectations we have of the people we choose to lead us these days is grossly underwhelming and sad.
No kidding . Who cares if he or anyone else marches or doesn’t march in a parade ? The news media love to make hay , but who really cares ?
 

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Well, this seems to be the sum measure of a politicians electability these days. The pathetic and immature superficiality of political qualifications and expectations we have of the people we choose to lead us these days is grossly underwhelming and sad.
Your use of the word "us" is pretty hilarious
 

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The "us" you are referring to obviously excludes the gay pride folks - among many others.
 

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It would also exclude the people who do not think that climate change is a hoax or that only white people face discrimination - that goes without saying.
 

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The french and many other ethnic/religious groups.

No room for them.
 

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The Jews I'm not sure about. They have somehow become the darlings of he right after years of being treated not very nicely at all.

So I am going to guess your pronoun "us" could include jews but not palestinians.
 

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The "us" you are referring to obviously excludes the gay pride folks - among many others.


Only a heterophobic, intolerant bigot like yourself would frame gender and identity in terms of "us" and "them". Your false assumption is laughable....it's funny that the people like yourself screeching accusations of intolerance are typically the most intolerant people around. Good character doesn't develop itself, sport. It might be time for you to engage in a little self reflection...all that averted self-loathing is not healthy.
 

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Well, this seems to be the sum measure of a politicians electability these days. The pathetic and immature superficiality of political qualifications and expectations we have of the people we choose to lead us these days is grossly underwhelming and sad.
you're the one who used the word.

I have trouble remembering anything you say too.
 

Decapoda

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you're the one who used the word.
Let me simplify it for you since you're struggling.... Hoid + opinion = f***ed.

Google straw man argument for more info, if you can figure out how to do that.
 

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nobody wants you on their team.

the conservative leader will march in the gay pride parades because the people who do not support gay pride parades are the deplorables.

you would have to move to america if you want to fit in.

in Canada you're a bunch of lepers
 

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McKay will march in this farce parade because todays moronic society says it's the thing to do. Politically correct if you will. Most people could care less about this event, just that if you oppose it, you are some sort of ogre.
A small percentage of people are gay, yet we must cater to them, fund their parade with our tax money. Then we must all agree that it is the best thing since sliced bread...."F" that.
If these people want a parade, have at it.....but ****ing well pay for it yourself or get corporate funding like the Santa Claus and other parades do. This pandering to the ones who cry the loudest needs to stop.
 

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The crony capitalists that prop up the liberal party would never accept something this simple.




OH .......................you need to be corrected there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Civil service union HOGS ARE NOT CRONY CAPITALISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our civil service union HOGS ARE ASPIRING SOCIALIST DICTATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Consider the kind of world that European HOGS have built::::::::






Here is a nice story out of Spain which illustrates nicely why civil service Working family Hogs must not be allowed too much freedom! I include some comments of my own in brackets).

Spanish council failed to notice civil servant's six-year absence from work. Joaquín García, who was still collecting his annual €37,000 salary, was only rumbled when he was considered for an award for performing 20 years of loyal service!

(Reward for loyal service? This is on a par with Toronto Silly Hall giving Black Lives Matter reverse racists rewards for their “community building efforts”!)

By James Badcock in Madrid. 3:56PM GMT 12 Feb 2016. Telegraph News.

A Spanish civil servant who failed to turn up for work for six years was only discovered when he was considered for an award for loyal service.

Former public employee Joaquín García, who was still collecting his annual €37,000 (€31,000) salary, was on Friday ordered by Cádiz city hall to pay €27,000 in compensation.

He had been sent by the city council to oversee the building of a waste-water treatment plant in the southwestern city but records show that Mr García had not turned up for work since 2004.

Mr García responded by filing his own complaint with city hall demanding that councillor José Blas Fernández, in charge of personnel at the time, be disciplined for negligence for failing to notice his absence.

(I say: Hey-the Hog ACTUALLY has a point! A superior cannot be everywhere every day but surely once in a while one might notice a total lack of employee presence and make inquiries? And one has to assume there would be a notable absence of reports, progress reports and such from that employee and that might provide additional clues something was wrong!)

Mr García argued that if it is true that he was absent during all of that time, “it was up to Mr Fernández to make sure that this did not happen”.

(Gee, do we arrest cops for failing to prevent imbeciles from causing car crashes? So why blame the supervisor? Except that Hogs are so entitled they do not believe they can do any wrong? The truly frightening thing is that this is the world that LIE-berals will build for us if they keep sucking up to OUR Cdn Hogs! )

Mr Fernández took legal action against Mr García in 2010 after seeing his name on a list of employees due to receive awards for long service. Recalling that he had been sent to a post at Cádiz Water under an agreement between the council and the public utility in 1998, Mr Fernández visited the waterworks to find that Mr García’s colleagues had no idea where he was.

“They assumed he had been sent back to city hall,” Mr Fernández said. An investigation revealed that the phantom civil servant had not clocked in to work for six years from 2004.

Mr García claimed that he had occasionally visited his office but that there was nothing for him to do. He said he was the victim of workplace bullying due to disagreements between the council and the water company.

The now-retired civil servant has asked the current mayor of Cádiz, José María González of the Left-wing Podemos party, to be excused having to pay the damages equivalent to one year’s salary.

The median salary in Spain is just over €19,000, while unemployment in Cádiz is above the national average at 34 per cent.

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(And lest we Cdns get too smug re the behaviour of OUR Hogs let me repeat a column that appeared in the Toronto Sun a few years back!

(Toronto District School Board FINALLY got around to FIRING one of its employees for spending 3- 4 DAYS EVERY WEEK taking lessons in a judo school instead of working.)

(The job of the employee was to travel around to TDSB schools to check and adjust the thermostats controlling the heating systems at each school each day. But instead the dork was taking judo lessons and eventually got caught after his company van was repeatedly spotted parked at the Judo school by a disgusted citizen.)

(This sounds like something out of that Red Green comedy skit-but instead of golf luring the Hog, it was judo! So the Hog was warned and he walked the straight and narrow for a few months and then fell off the wagon and into judo school yet again! And was reported yet again. And was finally FIRED!)

(But there is a larger question here: WHY do we need a person to check the school thermostats?)

( The thermostats in our homes are automatic and don’t require daily adjustment so why do those in schools? We pay school principles excellent money to care for our kids-are principles too dull witted to notice if the heating system fails and icicles are forming on the frozen noses of our kids?)

(Or is it something more sinister? Are school heating plants and operating equipment so antiquated and unreliable that it takes a master mechanic to adjust them?)

(Something is rotten here and it ISN’T just the work ethic of civil service Hogs!)


(And isnt it nice that our LIE-beral loving news media whores are getting reluctant to repeat stories like this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


For fear of turning us against our GREEDY HOGS AND LIE-beral overlords!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 

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Run Don for leader of Angry White Guys party




So who do you recommend for the "White Hater Socialist BIGOT Party"???????????????????????



The White Hater Alliance will be formed by LIE-berals and their idiot cousins.............................


the Greenies and NDPees after Our idiot Boy loses his minority govt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Jonathan Kay: My secret recipe for a Conservative leader who can win

I hate writing these Here’s-What-the-Conservative-Party-Needs pieces because it’s a well-worn genre, and every specimen tends to circle back predictably to the author’s own parochial interests. But someone’s got to step in to save the current leadership campaign from its descent into farce. This week’s video ad from Peter MacKay — a hyperactive light show that looked like it’d been created by Spaceship Guy from the Lego movies — came off as a particularly loud cry for help. The same is true of MacKay’s slogans, apparently programmed by a sentence-generating app locked in on Tautology mode: “Canada is free because Canadians keep it free,” “Canada is strong because Canadians make it strong,” and “I am proud because Canadians make me proud.”

MacKay has a reputation as a smart and conscientious politician. But the epileptic’s nightmare he’s spamming Canada with shows how hard it’s become for a Conservative to speak in anything except the blandest generalities. Canadians now inhabit a skewed social-media-dominated cultural and political space that stigmatizes not only conservative opinions, but even widely held centrist views that have been branded as wrongthink.

These include, inter alia, in no particular order:

  • that responsible policy-makers must set limits on the flow of immigrants and refugees into Canada, and that reasonable people can disagree about what those limits should be;
  • that Canada needs a military with the capability to wage war against enemies, not just perform search and rescue missions, domestic crisis management, and foreign nation-building;
  • that it is perfectly reasonable for politicians and other public figures to discuss the same kind of national abortion regulations that exist in literally every other developed country on the face of the planet;
  • that there are real biological differences between men and women that cannot always be addressed responsibly through a policy of anything-goes gender self-identification;
  • that free speech and due process are bedrock values of any truly democratic society, and must be protected even when short-term results fly in the face of other desirable goals, including social justice;
  • that we will never truly be able to help rectify Canada’s appalling treatment of Indigenous peoples if we pretend that every point of disagreement can be addressed by spending more money, offering more apologies or devolving more powers;
  • that the economic and infrastructural dictates of energy production and distribution require a co-ordinated national strategy that occasionally may override locally expressed opposition;
  • that excessive inter-regional cash transfers can undermine our national cohesion and incentivize the continuation of failed regional economies;
  • that our system of publicly subsidized media — including the CBC — must be overhauled in a way that bridges the enormous disconnect between the cultural attitudes of ordinary taxpayers and the increasingly cloistered and ideologically cultish creative class that serves as the system’s rentiers;
  • that all forms of dangerous extremism must be viewed with equal concern and countered with the necessary measures — whether it’s Islamist terrorism, murderous white supremacist hatemongering, or Antifa street violence;
  • that Canada is a successful and prosperous country with a proud history, and that our necessary remembrance of past cruelties should not prevent our public institutions from celebrating our traditions;
  • that the job of our prime minister is not to act as public scold, activist mascot, toxic-masculinity self-flagellant, or moral arbiter in matters of private behaviour, but rather to manage affairs of state.
These are my own views, of course. But I like to think that I’m also speaking for that great swathe of Canadians who have existed all of their lives as centrists, or even leftists, but now find themselves denounced as alt-right heretics because they dared to speak aloud one of the above-listed beliefs. The only politician I’ll be excited to support in the next election will be the one (of whatever party) who isn’t afraid to say such things aloud.

That didn’t include Andrew Scheer, who lost the election in part because he couldn’t decide if he was a truth-teller or a bromide peddler. On some issues (though admittedly not all), he got lost betwixt and between, and fell back on a default strategy of vacuous anti-Liberal sloganeering. This was often a turn-off. There are plenty of us, me included, who think Trudeau actually got many of the big issues right (including the biggest: handling Donald Trump and the existential threat to the Canadian economy posed by U.S. protectionism), even if we suspect a Conservative government could do better.

Several of the candidates in this leadership race — including MacKay — are old enough to have passed through the Canadian conservative realignment of the late 1990s and early 2000s. They need to remember that many of the leading issues from that period are dead, and that conservatives and liberals are, in substance, actually much closer than they were in the era of Jean Chrétien and Preston Manning. None of the young Canadian conservatives I meet these days opposes gay marriage. Few look to the U.S. economy as a model for our own, seek to tear down our highly regulated banking oligopoly (which saved us from the 2008 mortgage meltdown), substantially undercut our universal health-care system, starve our welfare state, or bring back capital punishment. If it’s important to make lists of truths that need telling, it’s also important to tick off policy areas that will simply turn people off.

Perhaps the biggest difference now is that many conservatives have come to take global warming seriously, and have little time for the outright denialism that was still common currency when MacKay was a 30-something Atlantic Canadian wunderkid. Which means that a Conservative leader has to offer something more than putdowns of Liberal/NDP carbon-abatement models.

Fortunately, there’s a window of opportunity. Few voters, even among the (suburban) left, are excited to vote for more taxes and higher prices. But they will take a generous view to investments in technology that allow them to keep their cars powered and homes heated using zero-emission fuels. I happen to be a big fan of nuclear, wind, solar and even micro hydro. But whatever the wattage mix we end up with, the larger point is: build green capacity up instead of taxing the economy down.

And one more thing: stop spending your money on earnest, humourless video segments targeted at people with 15-second attention spans. They reek of focus groups, and make you look old and out of touch — even if your young assistant is circulating them on all the latest interwebs. Get yourself campaign advisers who watch, and listen to, Bill Maher, Sam Harris, Rachel Maddow, Trevor Noah, Joe Rogan, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and, yes, Jordan Peterson. Don’t let anyone into the room who doesn’t make you laugh at least once per day. The data show that your voting audience will binge-consume endless hours of challenging content if it’s clever, sharp, sincere and principled. But Canadians won’t spare a second for anything that comes off as institutional propaganda, no matter how many times you flash your coloured lights and scream “spaceship!”

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