You make good points.
The people I know of who have gone out to the prairies then come back actually have said they liked it there but it just didn't feel like home.
The one thing I like about minority governments is that everyone is forced to work together. But you do make a valid point that the left side of things right now may pass things in coalition despite what the cons might want. I would hope that the liberals would work to try and make things more equal and appealing enough to get con votes/support and we'll just have to wait and see.
I'm all for Alberta Beef - but then I also support local - and most people I know support it. Just sayin'.
There's stereotypes everywhere really. I've tried not to think of people out west as rednecks or hillbillies though I admit it's hard. I'm not a fish person or a wife of a fisherman and despite things I am proud of Canada as a whole; not having Quebec, or the Prairies, as part of Canada would, to me, mean there is no Canada. To put it another way, for all the BS going on now if something happened to Alberta, Saskatchewan or Manitoba (which I've been to Winnipeg and liked it for the limited time I stayed), my first thought would be "how can I help". I know I'm an odd duck out of a lot of people I know though...
The issue of Climate change is, as you said, for another thread. All I can say on it is that the back and forth pizzes me off, I do not understand why caring about the planet is such an evil thing but I also think being connected and giving slack to other nations who do worse environmentally than us is not just counter productive, but hypocritical and if we're gonna put on our own people consequences of climate, then we should do so to the imports from other countries as well.
But to be fair, there was time given for all provinces to come up with their own 'carbon tax' idea and those that didn't had one imposed. NS came up with their own idea and they're fine. NB stalled and had one put in for us.
Now gas is cheaper in NS than here, even though it used to be the other way around. If it was imposed on Sask like on NB, that's on your Provincial government, not on Trudeau really for being too whatever about the issue (lazy, ignorant, thought it'd go away, whatever). Least that's how I think of it. Now we're paying the price because our Provincal government sucks.
Not sure but I think I'm missing the point here. Or missing references.
Honestly... good. I despise Saudi right now for a lot of reasons and if they stop buying our stuff, we should be looking elsewhere to sell.
That was a cluserfuk that I put not just on our government, but the US as well. Personally? I say terf the lady out of Canada, let the US do their own dirty work at this point since we did our job and they decided to screw the pooch to make US out to be the bad guys, and IMO we should avoid China all together or as much as possible.
And screw what the local people - not just in Canada but the US - thought about it? Screw where these lines would go? That's part of what people had issues with. I know you're not going to win over everyone who was/is against pipelines; hell it took time for me to be won over to the fact but railroading things through even before Trump was in office would never have worked, and it definitely won't work now with his stripping out the EPA so that regulations are less than they should be. And while the US might have the right to pollute their lands if something happens with a spill, for me at least I still care that it'll affect people for who knows how long.
Which is why I DON'T take it as just another bunch of bologna, but serious. And while I'm trying to learn the concerns and all and trying to understand it, from some people it sounds like all it is, is whining and bitching because "their guy" didn't get in, thus they lost, thus they're pizzed off and that just pizzes me off in return. I mean, there are people who can't even admit that the cause of the loss was due to the social policy of the Con party and how it just will not work with the rest of Canada and because of that, the con party is in trouble.
I don't expect everyone to work together - too many regional differences - and I certainly don't expect we all sing kumbaya or anything, but I'd feel the same way if Quebec was throwing another tantrum over them not being super special (which is another thread too)
This last Federal Election was telling. Look at it! The Prairies aren't just AB & SK. The Prairies voted for the one Party that wasn't Demonizing it and claiming to want to gut it and replace the economy with Unicorn & Fairy Dust sales that currently don't exist....& this coming from the same political slant that can't even successfully sell weed? Really? Oh Lord, that's a jagged pill to try and swallow.
And as I mentioned, socially it just isn't going to mesh with the rest of Canada. I think the question needs to be ask, WHY didn't the PC's win more outside of the prairies. They won some places, sure, but why didn't they win MORE? They should have; FFS Trudeau screwed the dog enough that he deserved to lose.
I didn't vote blue - why? Because while I might have agreed with economic stuff, socially I just could not stand with Sheer. I've a friend in Calgary who didn't vote for Sheer? Why? Because she's a Minority of different types and the PC's did not do anything to help her feel that she or others like her would be welcomed.
Same with a friend from Edmonton.
The PC's don't have to sell their souls or bend over backwards to be better in the social aspect of their platform, but they sure as hell need to make more of an effort at least.
I can see some saying that. But personally, I'd put it as "You should'a had someone leading "your" party who actually wanted to include all of Canada and just not the West". That's how it felt to me personally, Sheer didn't give a damn about the rest of Canada, just the West. Which, mind you, is no better than the other way as you said. Which is why I couldn't vote Liberal, either.
But the problem is a lot of people see it as taking your ball and going home, because that's how it sounds. Truth or not, that's how it comes across. "Oh you didn't like and elect our guy, fine, screw you guys, we're going home and if you want us to play well you'd best do what we want and what we say or we won't ever play again." And it's that impression I hate.
But I also hate that to a lot of Westerners, the East means Ottawa and Quebec only, or that all the East, including (or maybe especially) the Maritimes and Newfoundland and Labrador are just people wanting handouts who don't want to work. It drives me absolutely bonkers that there's that kind of belief out there.
Not done enough, I agree. I don't expect the feds to do much honestly and I hate that, too.
Maybe I'm an idiot and naïve or whatever but the whole thought of this country tearing itself apart infuriates me and makes me want to take a baseball bat to everyone and play whack-a-fukin-mole for the stupidity going on, yell at them all to grow the fuk up and get serious about things.
