ABEXIT - is it time for Alberta to think about leaving Canada?

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Every single Albertan will pay higher provincial taxes as Kenney has not indexed tax brackets. This is a $600 million tax increase.

Vehicle registration and recreational vehicle registration fees are increasing.

Municipal taxes will increase to cover lower transfers from the province.

New fees on tourism levies – like hotel rooms and Airbnb accommodations.

Increased tobacco and vaping taxes.



Jason Kenney - Another pretend conservative
 

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Every single Albertan will pay higher provincial taxes as Kenney has not indexed tax brackets. This is a $600 million tax increase.

Vehicle registration and recreational vehicle registration fees are increasing.

Municipal taxes will increase to cover lower transfers from the province.

New fees on tourism levies – like hotel rooms and Airbnb accommodations.

Increased tobacco and vaping taxes.



Jason Kenney - Another pretend conservative
Sin tax that gives you a government discount might be a hit. (hookers and booze and pot, hookers are not shipped, sex robots are though)Not nearly the money maker an online RezHardware store would make. The server has to be located there as well as having enough goods to satisfy the local demand otherwise Canada Post can take delivery at the warehouse that serves Canada. Pizza by drone would not be as in demand as a pallet of cement moved up the slope of a mountain so the natural terrain stays that way. The owner would chopper in and out of the fortress (or zip-line). On the ranch it would monitor crops as wells delivering 'meds' to the plants or the herds at the watering hole or by dart-gun.
 

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Every single Albertan will pay higher provincial taxes as Kenney has not indexed tax brackets. This is a $600 million tax increase.
Vehicle registration and recreational vehicle registration fees are increasing.
Municipal taxes will increase to cover lower transfers from the province.
New fees on tourism levies – like hotel rooms and Airbnb accommodations.
Increased tobacco and vaping taxes.
Jason Kenney - Another pretend conservative


Since equalization was created (in 1957), Alberta has received 0.02% of all payments, the last of which was in 1964-1965. In contrast, Quebec has received equalization money every year of the program, totalling 221 billion dollars or 51 per cent of all payments.

No it would not affect Alberta as you say above..

However, even if we had a referendum transfer payments are protected in the 1982 Constitution so it can’t suddenly be axed.


https://business.financialpost.com/...rain-would-add-new-dimension-to-pipeline-wars
 

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Elimination of the scientific research and experimental development credit

Removal of the interactive digital media credit, which targeted job creation in software design.


Kenney is afraid to technology
 

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Elimination of the scientific research and experimental development credit
Removal of the interactive digital media credit, which targeted job creation in software design.
Kenney is afraid to technology
Maybe, he's another anti-science Bible thumper.
 

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Broken explicit platform promise to maintain the city charter with Edmonton & Calgary and the funding arrangements included it in.

Cuts grants in lieu of property tax on its buildings, meaning a cut to municipal funding.


Kenney undermines municipalities
 

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Broken explicit platform promise to maintain the city charter with Edmonton & Calgary and the funding arrangements included it in.
Cuts grants in lieu of property tax on its buildings, meaning a cut to municipal funding.
Kenney undermines municipalities
I doubt that he likes the mayor of Calgary.
 

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Since equalization was created (in 1957), Alberta has received 0.02% of all payments, the last of which was in 1964-1965. In contrast, Quebec has received equalization money every year of the program, totalling 221 billion dollars or 51 per cent of all payments.

No it would not affect Alberta as you say above..

However, even if we had a referendum transfer payments are protected in the 1982 Constitution so it can’t suddenly be axed.


https://business.financialpost.com/...rain-would-add-new-dimension-to-pipeline-wars
Have the referendum that sins of the past Government can be undone singularity or in a group and make 1948 the effective date for how far back the UN courts would be willing to go back. Having Judges from 3rd world countries would help the case arrive at the correct verdict and award the correct damages. Collective means 'Jane Doe' and anybody missing completely. Lacking proof a high number is chosen instead of the lowest. The money taken from the rich and given to the poor still belongs to the same bank. Who they favor has changed and they do not like competition, or 'a potential witnesses against them'.
 

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Budget takes back full control of public service pension plans. Giving the government control over benefits and investments of the plan

Kenney loves more bureaucracy
 

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Can Kenney be any worse than Rachel Notley?

Jason Kenney says he will balance the budget by 2023 – the exact same timeline the Notley NDP government was working toward without all the cuts. Under Kenney – the budget deficit is expected to increase by $2 billion next year!

Of course he can. He’s a pretend conservative
 

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As an Albertan I'm past being angry at Eastern Canada. Alberta and Saskatchewan have such different views on how we should develope and benefit from our resources I don't think there can ever be a reconciliation. The first goal of any marriage is to try and make it work, but when it becomes apparent that it will never work it is time to end it to stop the fighting. We are at that stage here in the west. It is definitely time to end the relationship and find alternatives.

And this not just because of this last election. This is due to yrs and yrs of east vs west. We think so much different and quite frankly they have NO respect for us and DONT care . We are more similar to western US. Sad but true..

It time for a referendum in Alberta 1. To stop equalization payments, 2. To see how many Albertans would want to join the USA as the 51st State..

Enough talk, hold a referendum NOW!!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calg...uld-be-better-off-as-51st-u-s-state-1.2998453


Well said, right up to the point of joining the US.


Why on Earth would you want to swap Fed gvts that will clean your clock on taxes and I'm wondering exactly what the US Fed brings to the table in terms of benefits



That said, AB and Sask do need to consider alternative arrangements and considering the problems that Eastern Canada is facing in the next few years, this is even more reason to pull the plug
 

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Jason Kenney says he will balance the budget by 2023 – the exact same timeline the Notley NDP government was working toward without all the cuts. Under Kenney – the budget deficit is expected to increase by $2 billion next year!
Of course he can. He’s a pretend conservative

"Of course he can. He’s a pretend conservative"...……………..Oh, just like you! :)

aaagh! Okay.. taking a wild guess.. you voted NDP? :lol:

I mean you're defending Notley, really. I guess that bump in the minimum wage to $15 dollars help you buy that timeshare in Mexico.. :lol:

Okay enough with the trolling.. Jason Kenney is not what Alberta needed, it was just another protest vote by Albertans, same when the NDP got elected.

Alberta needs Ralph Klein, some comedy relief to forget the bad economy.