Tesla to cut thousands of jobs as Elon Musk warns the ‘road ahead is very difficult’

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When it is -40 most of the time is that when 'mag-lev' becomes feasible?? Twinned Hwy with 2 heavy rail lined between and the power line towers would get power from the (many) passing trains. Part of the tower would be a pod for a person (mag-lev part) that travels at 440mph or supersonic if a few join together. Labrador-Netherlands 8hrs.
 
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what it actually takes is massive programming in order to operate a many-celled battery array.
 
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AnnaEmber said:
Apparently, science at Panasonic and Tesla has not been in touch with feasibility: https://www.businessinsider.com/panasonic-battery-cell-operations-tesla-gigafactory-chaotic-2019-4
those cells are not cheap and it would take half a dumptruck load of them to operate a car for any length of time. Expensive. And it would also take kms of wiring to connect them all, too. Not very practical. And the operation is loaded with glitches, as the article shows.
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What about a spring you can rewind by hand?
 
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Programming is simply commands. Good quality vehicles need a lot more than just programming.
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Of course there is much more to making a car - but in terms of battery life and usage its all about programming.

What sets Tesla apart are their ideas and their ability to transfer them to the real world.

That battery technology was produced 7 years ago - and has never been matched let alone bettered - until they just started patenting their new million mile battery.
 
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Hoid said:
Of course there is much more to making a car - but in terms of battery life and usage its all about programming.
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Yeah, Ah, voltage, etcetera are negligible issues.

What sets Tesla apart are their ideas and their ability to transfer them to the real world.
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Tesla would get an A for effort but F for practise, from me so far.

That battery technology was produced 7 years ago - and has never been matched let alone bettered - until they just started patenting their new million mile battery.
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Nope. Early 90s was when relatively practical lithium ion batteries came about.
Dahn and pals haven't made anything new. They've just taken high-quality materials and made pouch cells and are fiddling with it to make the cells more stable. Materials are a lot more important than the programming at this point.
 
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Hoid said:
Of course there is much more to making a car - but in terms of battery life and usage its all about programming.
What sets Tesla apart are their ideas and their ability to transfer them to the real world.
That battery technology was produced 7 years ago - and has never been matched let alone bettered - until they just started patenting their new million mile battery.
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You mean the processor maker known as Panasonic and their switches and controls to manage the 18650 cess they make for Tesla in a partnership?
 
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Hoid said:
Of course there is much more to making a car - but in terms of battery life and usage its all about programming.
What sets Tesla apart are their ideas and their ability to transfer them to the real world.
That battery technology was produced 7 years ago - and has never been matched let alone bettered - until they just started patenting their new million mile battery.
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What sets Tesla apart is their ability to tap public funds to build toys for the rich.
 
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AnnaEmber said:
Yeah, Ah, voltage, etcetera are negligible issues.
Tesla would get an A for effort but F for practise, from me so far.
Nope. Early 90s was when relatively practical lithium ion batteries came about.
Dahn and pals haven't made anything new. They've just taken high-quality materials and made pouch cells and are fiddling with it to make the cells more stable. Materials are a lot more important than the programming at this point.
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I tried giving him a link to a physicist who played a massive roll in the development of Lithium Ion batteries.

I met the guy at buck o beer night on the concourse at SFU when I was a freshman and ended up renting a basement suite from him.

He is by far one the most intelligent people I've ever met.

They never could solve the issues of exothermic reaction and explosions with larger batteries hence 30 years of the 18650.

Other REEs and graphene capacitors will take batteries and energy storage to the next level.

Graphene has already made our current electronics obsolete, buying a new Tesla is buying a classic car.
 
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Are you capable of discussion?

Do you admit Panasonic's batteries and control systems power Teslas, their powerwalls and storage facilities?

Ever heard of graphene? Has it antiquated our entire digital world? Yes? No?

Will carbon taxes apply to graphene batteries and digital systems?
 
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I admit that panasonic manufacture the batteries that go into the tesla battery pack. In China LG will be making them. In neither case does the battery manufacturer make the technology that runs the car or have anything to do with it.

I have long discovered that trying to talk science with you is pointless.

You're a climate change denier ffs
 
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