Jason Kenney should hold referendum Alberta sovereignty

Twin_Moose

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Resources belong to whoever owns them - and whoever sells them pays the federal government a fee or tax or "excise"

Then why is the royalty fight between the resource extraction companies and the Provincial Gov. and not the Fed. Gov? Excise tax is placed on fuel for road maintenance.
 

Hoid

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What on Earth is the fderal government's interest in oil and gas anyway?

White natty desperately wants to understand.
 

Hoid

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Yes the provinces agreed that they would control the resources and the feds would control the sale of the resources.

Thats the deal.

If that deal was terminated wouldn't it terminate the provincial control of the resource?
 

Twin_Moose

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The Feds have no control on the sales, they have been trying to since 1976, they think they found the backdoor through Carbon pollution to get their hands on resource revenue.
 

Hoid

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https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/distribution-of-powers

in fact since 1976 there have been more powers moved to the provinces.


"Provincial jurisdiction over natural resources was enlarged, in 1982, to include shared power in inter-provincial commerce and extra-territorial marketing (though with federal paramountcy). The provinces have also been granted the power of indirect taxation of their natural resources (see Intergovernmental Finance)."
 

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https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/distribution-of-powers
in fact since 1976 there have been more powers moved to the provinces.
"Provincial jurisdiction over natural resources was enlarged, in 1982, to include shared power in inter-provincial commerce and extra-territorial marketing (though with federal paramountcy). The provinces have also been granted the power of indirect taxation of their natural resources (see Intergovernmental Finance)."
Which has squat to do with ownership of said resources.
 

Hoid

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It has to do with you gets paid.

If you think the feds don't get paid you may want to reread. Or maybe have someone give you the gist.
 

MHz

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MHz, I swear you only have a head on your shoulders to hold your ears..
I c unt hear you, you little cu nt.

Typed that parameter into the ignore thingy and 'poof' you were MIA. 'Ezekiel the Sorcerer' would be proud, Yes?
 

MHz

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Jeezzus you are stupid. Resources belong to the provinces who lease the rights to extract. The feds just skim.
Case #1 Who owns the sand the is left when the tar is taken out of the 'tar-sands'?
Case #2 Who owns the raw product this is below the oil content required my current mining methods?

Case #3 Who owns the tailing pile once the diamonds have been extracted?


Can the owners invite 3rd parties to do their own R&D if the product is shipped to their facility and that facility is located as close to the point of origin by rail as possible. Swan Hills would be it's destination after further processing. Perhaps 'dustless gravel' even in the middle of a dry-spell if it us 'jello-like' at the moment.
The material from the diamond mine would need a heavy rail. 4 lines, the middle 2 are extraction and the outside 2 are incoming empty and all share the same 'buoyant ties' that all 4 rails are connected to.
 

Hoid

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The provinces and the federal government are joined in a complex arrangement.

If a province was to separate - and it has not even been determined they could do that - they can't simply say we are leaving and we are taking what we want to take and leaving what we want to leave.

It would be a complicated thing.
 
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White_Unifier

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If Alberta separated from Canada, it's clear that Alberta would then manage those resources. They'd clearly fall under the jurisdiction of the Alberta.
 

MHz

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If Alberta separated from Canada, it's clear that Alberta would then manage those resources. They'd clearly fall under the jurisdiction of the Alberta.
Hahahahahaaha. Of course we would Dear as we also secretly own all these corporations.

. . . as well as being James Bond and Moriarty at the same time.