800 years of democracy is unravelling before our very eyes

White_Unifier

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If May's deal passes, don't be surprised if people call for a second referendum five years on between keeping May's deal and negotiating a harder Brexit.

Many Brexiteers might accept May's deal, but they'll probably see it more as a goodtransition deal, but not what they want as a final deal.
 

Curious Cdn

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If May's deal passes, don't be surprised if people call for a second referendum five years on between keeping May's deal and negotiating a harder Brexit.
Many Brexiteers might accept May's deal, but they'll probably see it more as a goodtransition deal, but not what they want as a final deal.
You think that the Europeans will be interested in letting them back in?

Don't bet the farm on that.
 

White_Unifier

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You think that the Europeans will be interested in letting them back in?
Don't bet the farm on that.

Only if they accept the euro, from my understanding. Keeping the pound was a kind of grandfather clause since the UK was already in the EU. Once out, if it chooses to rejoin, it'll be treated just like any other neubie.
 

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Only if they accept the euro, from my understanding. Keeping the pound was a kind of grandfather clause since the UK was already in the EU. Once out, if it chooses to rejoin, it'll be treated just like any other neubie.
They'll have to beg, like the Turks and the Serbs.
 

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And yet history has shown that the nation state prevails whilst multinational entities and empires like the EU eventually collapse.
 

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If May's deal passes, don't be surprised if people call for a second referendum five years on between keeping May's deal and negotiating a harder Brexit.

Many Brexiteers might accept May's deal, but they'll probably see it more as a goodtransition deal, but not what they want as a final deal.

1) There's not going to be a second referendum. Democracy has already spoken. And even if there will be, Leave will win again. The British people aren't going to vote to give up their sovereignty and independence and to join a failing and collapsing empire and join the discredited euro, which has brought impoverishment and economic collapse to many of the nations which unwisely joined it (unlike Britain, which wisely kept out of it despite europhiles telling us it would be a disaster if we DIDN'T join it).

2) Why would MPs vote in favour of May's deal next week if they voted against it twiced previously and the deal has hardly been changed?

3) Mrs May has indicated that she may not even put her deal before the Commons again. If so - or she does put the deal before the Commons and they vote it down again - then'll Britain will likely leave the EU on Friday 12th April with no deal.
 

Curious Cdn

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1) There's not going to be a second referendum. Democracy has already spoken. And even if there will be, Leave will win again. The British people aren't going to vote to give up their sovereignty and independence and to join a failing and collapsing empire and join the discredited euro, which has brought impoverishment and economic collapse to many of the nations which unwisely joined it (unlike Britain, which wisely kept out of it despite europhiles telling us it would be a disaster if we DIDN'T join it).
2) Why would MPs vote in favour of May's deal next week if they voted against it twiced previously and the deal has hardly been changed?
3) Mrs May has indicated that she may not even put her deal before the Commons again. If so - or she does put the deal before the Commons and they vote it down again - then'll Britain will likely leave the EU on Friday 12th April with no deal.


No, you are all well and truly fukced.
 

Curious Cdn

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Would you stand for Canadian law being made in Tulsa ? Why would you expect Brits to want their laws made in Brussels ?
I would expect 21st century Britain to have grown up enough to be able to be part of multilateral organizations. That is not the case, apparently. They whine, snivvel about their lot but Britain hasn't had it this good since they were stripping India of her gold.
 

Blackleaf

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I would expect 21st century Britain to have grown up enough to be able to be part of multilateral organizations. That is not the case, apparently. They whine, snivvel about their lot but Britain hasn't had it this good since they were stripping India of her gold.

What's grown up about being in an undemocratic, authoritarian bureaucracy that strangles the economy, strips the country of its wealth and has aspirations of being a nation state that nobody in Britain voted to be part of?

What's grown up about being ruled by a bunch of odious unelected foreigners in Brussels and Strasbourg?

The Canadians wouldn't accept Canada being part of such an organisation, so why should the British?
 

Blackleaf

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Remainers getting destroyed by Brexiteers:



Remainer cringe:


A Remainer who doesn't understand democracy:



Asking Remainers: European Commission or Democracy?

 

Blackleaf

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So I guess y'all're pretty stupid, enit?
Typical Brit. Whimpering "it isn't our fault! It's those people we freely and democratically elected because we're gullible!"

Pretty stupid for voting for people who promised to honour the referendum result?

What would you have liked us to have done?