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Ocean Breeze

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He just gave the Russians free rein to do whatever the'll do ... probably in exchange for having that pee-pee video surpressed for a time ... until Putin makes his next "request" of Donald.

Sure is tough on Russia, giving them everything that they want.
the only ones Trump is "tough" on is his ( US) allies. ........He terts them like crap. while fawning over Putin, Kim.........etc( the Saudi Prince)

trump has not met a dictator he does not like .
 

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He just gave the Russians free rein to do whatever the'll do ... probably in exchange for having that pee-pee video surpressed for a time ... until Putin makes his next "request" of Donald.
Sure is tough on Russia, giving them everything that they want.

He just released the USA from the agreement to fire up the intermediate missile program to force Russia back into compliance
 

Twin_Moose

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the only ones Trump is "tough" on is his ( US) allies. ........He terts them like crap. while fawning over Putin, Kim.........etc( the Saudi Prince)
trump has not met a dictator he does not like .

It is reported that most NATO countries have upped their contributions because of it.
 

Twin_Moose

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Even Canada announced spending more on the military did they not?

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However, a formal summit declaration issued by the NATO leaders Wednesday reaffirmed their "unwavering commitment" to the 2 percent pledge set in 2014 and made no reference to any effort to get to 4 percent.
Amid the tumult, British Prime Minister Theresa May sounded a call for solidarity among the allies, saying, "As we engage Russia we must do so from a position of unity and strength -- holding out hope for a better future, but also clear and unwavering on where Russia needs to change its behavior for this to become a reality. And, as long as Russia persists in its efforts to undermine our interests and values, we must continue to deter and counter them."
 

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NATO Members Post New Defense-Spending Increase

NATO members increased overall defense spending for a second consecutive year in 2017 as President Donald Trump turned longstanding U.S. calls for Europe to foot more of the common security bill into blunt criticism of allies.


Total defense expenditure by North Atlantic Treaty Organization members grew to 2.42 percent of their gross domestic product last year from 2.4 percent, the alliance said in an annual report released on Thursday in Brussels. The increase in 2016 was the first since 2009.


The U.S. led with defense expenditure of 3.57 percent of GDP last year, up from 3.56 percent, while European nations boosted their spending on such outlays to an average 1.46 percent from 1.44 percent, according to the report. Canada, the second North American member of NATO, registered 1.29 percent last year compared with 1.16 percent in 2016.


“European allies and Canada are doing more, stepping up, contributing more to our shared security,” NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg told reporters. “Allies are investing in major new capabilities.”


Germany, a particular focus of scolding by Trump, increased defense outlays to 1.24 percent of GDP from 1.2 percent, while Spain posted a rise to 0.92 percent from 0.81 percent. France was unchanged at 1.79 percent, as was Italy at 1.12 percent.
With the U.S. accounting for about 70 percent of NATO’s overall defense expenditure, Washington has been pressing allies for years to contribute more. Trump’s move into the White House with his “America First” agenda heightened the political tensions, particularly at a May 25 summit when the president refused to offer an explicit endorsement of NATO’s collective-defense clause and instead hectored fellow leaders to pay more for defense.


As the Trump administration gears up to apply tariffs to foreign steel and aluminum on national-security grounds and signals European Union nations may be denied an exemption because their military spending is relatively low, Stoltenberg went out of his way to praise Germany -- the EU’s top economy -- for its defense efforts.
“Germany increased defense spending last year by around 6 percent in real terms,” he said. “That’s really a big increase and it adds to the European defense spending in a significant way.”
Spending Target
In 2014, NATO members pledged to spend at least 2 percent of their GDP on defense by 2024. In Europe, only Estonia, Greece and the U.K. achieved the goal last year. Poland, one of Europe’s fastest-growing economies, was at 1.99 percent.
The target will be met by eight NATO countries in 2018 and by at least 15 alliance members by 2024, according to Stoltenberg.
The 29-nation alliance is seeking to bolster its abilities to address a range of security threats including Russian meddling in eastern Europe, Islamic terrorism and cyber attacks. NATO is upgrading its command structure for the first time since the end of the Cold War, adding a command center focused on maritime security in the Atlantic and a center responsible for troop movements in Europe.
“NATO doesn’t have the luxury of choosing the security threats we face,” Stoltenberg said. “We must be ready and able to operate decisively across all operational domains -- land, sea, air and cyberspace.”
 

Curious Cdn

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Even Canada announced spending more on the military did they not?
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Hell will freeze over before a Trudeau signs that cheque.

They may "massage" the facts by signing a $60 bil. contract for Frigates, despite that having been in the works for more than a decade, now. It'll look like "new spending" this replacement of 20th Century gear when the 21 St Century is already a fifth over. It'll look like growth. I isn't.
 

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the only ones Trump is "tough" on is his ( US) allies. ........He terts them like crap. while fawning over Putin, Kim.........etc( the Saudi Prince)
trump has not met a dictator he does not like .
Trump is the only denocratic leader that stands up to creatures like Putin and Lil kim.
The fact is Trump pulled out of this deal because Russia wasn't living up to their end of the deal.
 

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It puts the World Bank 'in range'.

https://sputniknews.com/russia/201902041072101772-russia-us-response-inf-treaty/
On Saturday, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced that Moscow is suspending its participation in the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty following the US decision to scrap the deal.

Using sophisticated Kalibr and Zircon missiles, Russia may have no technical problems implementing a symmetrical response to the US move to begin the process of withdrawing from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty, the Russian daily Kommersant reports.
"The range of the sea-based Kalibr-NK missile will stand 2,600 kilometres in case of deploying it to land", Kommersant cited high-ranking government sources as saying.
 

Twin_Moose

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Yep and that is part of the reason the US pulled the plug on Russian's cheating on the agreement with no UN support to stand up to Putin.
 

Curious Cdn

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The US "pulled the plug" on an agreement that the Russians and probably the Americans, too, had already pulled the plug on. Trump is spinning it as some sort of "art of the deal" makarkey but it's pretty lame yelling that "the horse has left the barn" an hour after the horse has left the barn.
 

Danbones

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LOL the REAL Russian roulette squad is out in full force tonight.
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that's DOUBLE zero spys, for those of you who haven't already looked in the mirror today.

Say, where is hoid?