Spilledthebeer, trust me Canada is much different than the USA ..
I know because I know plenty of illegals working with fake SS Cards.
Different name, to the SS #, they just can't collect refunds at year end because the name and number doesn't match.
The IRS is not immigration, and they don't share who is working illegal.
Why should they, they are making money they don't have to give refunds on. hi
Well..........yes Boomer............................that is what I said that a fake social security card will not get you a job at any legitimate Cdn employer!!!!
And I suspect that Yankee employers simply DO NOT submit govt paperwork on workers they KNOW are not legit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you have one or two employees who happen to have fake social insurance cards- then you can shrug and say "I didnt know" -IN THE SHORT TERM!!!!!!!!!!
But if you have 10 employees with fake cards and have been dealing with them for years- then it is HARDER to hide your deliberate employing of illegals and consequently greater risk of tax fraud if questions get asked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There ARE ways around this stuff of course!!!!
As an example- I cite taxi drivers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Taxi drivers are considered to be SELF EMPLOYED and thus they are personally responsible for paying all fees for CPP, U.I. along with all taxes and health levyl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Being designated as a self employed worker is a GREAT WAY for a boss to duck any responsibility for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And since a typical taxi driver earns BELOW minimum wage there simply is NO MONEY for things like CPP and U.I!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At a low point in my life I drove a taxi for a few months and it is apparently TYPICAL of taxi drivers NOT to even bother filling out a T-4 tax federal income tax form!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The typical taxi driver is OFF THE TAX GRID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is NOTHING IN IT FOR THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As a self employed person there is NO welfare or unemployment insurance if their lives go badly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or we could consider the Yankee based company that does inventory control and naturally they have a Cdn subsidiary!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They seek out people on welfare who are still energetic enough to try to pay their bills and offer them jobs doing inventory control at big box warehouse chain stores!!!!!!!!!
They prefer to hire people who are down on their luck and still own vans or larger cars left over from better days because the work requires extensive travel and the pay is so low and the work all done late at night after most public transit has shut down that driving is ESSENTIAL and half a dozen workers MUST POOL THEIR RESOURCES and share the cost and share a vehicle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get 6 workers together and surely ONE of them will have a working vehicle????????????????
So you sign on and get your call - and are given phone numbers of others on your "crew" so you can arrange to meet up and share driving costs to the job site- the one I heard about was in Kingston Ont and its a FOUR HOUR DRIVE from eastern Toronto !!!!!!!!!!!
So you meet at 4pm- and all pile into a van- with the crew paying the drivers van expenses........and head down to the big box store- then spend 12- 16 -18 hours doing inventory- whatever time the job takes is what you DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THEN you get back in the van and drive 4 hours back home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So you have spent at least 8 hours travelling in any sort of weather and also spent LONG hours doing the job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
On the way home- the driver is drowsy, the whole crew has been running on coffee for hours............the roads may be slick with snow or ice, you dont know what condition the van is in or if it has good snow tires or quality brakes etc...........you are just crossing your fingers regarding safety issues !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And of course ALL travel time and travel COSTS are ON YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The company pays ONLY for the time you are in the STORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the van driver skids on ice and you are injured- the ENTIRE COST IS ON YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There IS NO Workman`s Compensation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No company wage for lost time sitting and freezing on a lonely stretch of 401 waiting for ambulance or cops or tow truck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And there IS NO AUTO INSURANCE TO PAY FOR INJURIES OR WRECKED VEHICLE EITHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ontari-owe insurance companies WILL NOT PAY for crashes of such sort since the van driver is using his vehicle as PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION WITHOUT PROPER LICENSING OR INSURANCE FEES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So if you get injured in such a crash and such crashes are inevitable since the company sends you all over the province in any weather and routinely keeps you awake and working well beyond the regular 8 hour day- and driving while drowsy is DANGEROUS!!!!
So this is the brave new world of work that our LIE-beral overlords are creating for us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or we could look at the wonderful LIE-beral opportunity given to workers over age 65 who are financially desperate and need to keep working!
LIE-berals like our dedication to work so we can avoid starving- so they have allowed us to stay in our jobs..........but of course WE NO LONGER HAVE Workman`s Compensation Insurance to protect us if things go badly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And in spite of crap like I have mentioned- LIE-berals find it hard to understand why it is that our kids are getting so GROUCHY about that combination of miserable McJobs, high costs and low wages- with the added bonus of govt now trying to jam their newly BOUGHT illegal pals into various Cdn jobs AHEAD of our kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!