Nearly 2000 years of England-Wales tolls come to an end

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From tomorrow, after nearly 2000 years, travellers crossing the UK's longest river between England and Wales no longer have to pay tolls...


Severn bridges: Final day of at least 800 years of tolls

By Peter Shuttleworth
BBC Wales News
16 December 2018


Maintenance of the two Severn bridges costs on average £6m a year


Sunday marks the final day of a centuries-old tax of paying to cross between south Wales and south-west England before the toll is removed.

Charges on both the M4 and M48 Severn bridges are being abolished - saving commuters as much as £1,400 a year.

People have had to pay to cross the Severn Estuary, with its treacherous tides, since Roman times, be it in a car, in a train or on a ferry.

The first written reference to the ferry is in a 12th Century document.

"Monday will be a very historic day," said historian Anne Rainsbury.

"It'll be the first time you can cross the Severn Estuary for free."

The charge for vehicles is being scrapped after the bridges returned to public ownership last year.

Car drivers had to pay two shillings and sixpence each way after the first Severn bridge was opened by the Queen in 1966.

Now the Severn toll has spiralled to £5.60 - but the charge is just one way, westbound heading into South Wales.

"It has been forever thus," added Ms Rainsbury, curator of Chepstow Museum on the Welsh side of the original bridge.

"You've always had to pay someone; a ferryman, a railway company or a bridge toll collector to cross the Severn Estuary - so Monday's removal of the tolls is a hugely significant moment, especially in Wales."

The first ferry crossing over the Severn Estuary - which has the second highest tidal range in the world - was between Aust and Beachley, essentially the path of the first bridge, on the narrowest width of the estuary.


The first recorded passenger ferry across the Severn Estuary is believed to be 1775

The first written reference to it is in a document from the 12th Century when the owner was the Lord of the Manor of Tidenham, part of the Chepstow Lordship.

But the first recorded ferry crossing was in 1775, when it cost a coach with six horses an eye-watering 16 shillings to board the boat on the mile-long route known as the old passage.

"It was a huge amount back then," said local historian Tim Ryan, who is trying to restore one of the old Severn ferries.


The Beachley-Aust ferry ran from 1931 until the original Severn bridge opened in 1966

"But if you could afford a coach and six horses, then you could afford the fee - and it would avoid a three-day, 55-mile trek around Gloucester to the nearest crossing of the river."

There was a rival and more direct crossing two miles downstream at the so-called new passage, thought to be in operation from 1630, between Pilning and Portskewett.

Both crossings - and a passenger ferry that ran directly between Chepstow and Bristol - were killed off when the Severn tunnel, then the world's longest under-sea rail tunnel, connecting London with south Wales opened in 1886.

The advent of the motor car revitalised the Aust-Beachley ferry and it started again in 1926 - running for 40 years and finishing the day before the first Severn bridge was opened.


A picture of Bob Dylan waiting for the Severn ferry was on the cover of the soundtrack to Martin Scorsese's documentary of Dylan

Famously Bob Dylan used a 1966 picture of himself as he waited for the Severn ferry on the cover of his album No Direction Home - the soundtrack to Martin Scorsese's documentary about the music icon.

The Queen opened the £8m first bridge in 1966 while the second bridge, built three miles downstream across the Severn Estuary, was financed by a private consortium set up in 1992.

The Second Severn Crossing - opened in 1996 and renamed the Prince of Wales Bridge in July this year - cost £332m to construct, but the eventual repayments including debt repayments, interest and tax totalled more than £1.3bn.

The removal of the Severn tolls is "history in the making", according to Anne Rainsbury, and will boost the Welsh economy by an estimated £100m.

The M4 Prince of Wales Bridge has been shut overnight as maintenance teams demolish the toll booths in readiness for toll-free free-flowing traffic.



The bridge between Monmouthshire and South Gloucestershire will be closed again at 19:00 on Sunday and reopen free-flowing and toll-free before Monday morning's rush hour - at a time yet to be confirmed - but with a 50mph speed restriction on temporary narrow lanes.

Motorists will be diverted around the original M48 Severn Bridge on Sunday night.

Shortly after the M4 bridge reopens on Monday, the M48 original Severn crossing will shut westbound until Wednesday for the tolls there to be dismantled.

Further work will be carried out in 2019 to return both routes to a three-lane motorway with the usual 70mph speed limit.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-46539168
 
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Blackleaf

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I'm sure the English especially will be happy that it's gone. For a number of years the toll has been on their side of the bridge, of course.
 

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I'm sure the English especially will be happy that it's gone. For a number of years the toll has been on their side of the bridge, of course.

A one-way toll? How's that fair? I agree though that a toll would be preferable to make it user-pay.
 

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That's a good thing. The more taxation is skewed towards progressive income taxes and away from user or poll taxes the fairer it is. Transportation produces a general benefit for all. Maybe they could replace the tolls on all bridges by imposing real progressive and non preferential taxation on capital gains. That would tax investment bankers who live on the avails of a productive industrial economy like parasites in proportion to the benefits they receive from the economy as a whole.
 

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That's a good thing. The more taxation is skewed towards progressive income taxes and away from user or poll taxes the fairer it is. Transportation produces a general benefit for all. Maybe they could replace the tolls on all bridges by imposing real progressive and non preferential taxation on capital gains. That would tax investment bankers who live on the avails of a productive industrial economy like parasites in proportion to the benefits they receive from the economy as a whole.
Why should the citizens of Northern BC finance the traffic jams in Vancouver? Especially since most of them will never ride the expensive subways or make multiple passes every day on one of many Fraser River crossings.
 

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That's a good thing. The more taxation is skewed towards progressive income taxes and away from user or poll taxes the fairer it is. Transportation produces a general benefit for all. Maybe they could replace the tolls on all bridges by imposing real progressive and non preferential taxation on capital gains. That would tax investment bankers who live on the avails of a productive industrial economy like parasites in proportion to the benefits they receive from the economy as a whole.

Let's take hydro as an example. The government increases a worker's taxes abut then subsidizes his electricity bill.If he's power-conscious while his neighbour likes to suck electricity to no end, then he's essentially subsidizing his neighbour's electricity bill. Now imagine that the government reduces his taxes and cuts subsidies to electricity. So his bill goes up, but since he's energy conscious anyway, he comes out on top. His neighbour meanwhile will start whining and complaining about how much electricity cots. Tough!

I see something similar with roads. Lower my overall taxes and increase the gas tax, and suddenly I have a disincentive to go on pleasure ides on my day off. As long as I'm cautious, I could come out on top in this. If I like riding around aimlessly all the time, it could hurt. But then again, roads cost money so why should I not pay my own way?

As for the poor, a simple solution is to increase their welfare payments and then let them decide how to spend that money rather than give them less and then subsidize what we think they should be buying.
 

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Why should the citizens of Northern BC finance the traffic jams in Vancouver? Especially since most of them will never ride the expensive subways or make multiple passes every day on one of many Fraser River crossings.



Virtually everything those northerners consume.. food, clothing, fuel, building material.. is transported to them via those roads and bridges from the south. Why should southern BCers finance that. Why should the poor working people subsidize rich investment bankers who provide nothing of productive value to the country and claim a vastly disproportionate share of that product.
 

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It isn't fair. Although the English haven't been treated fairly in this union of ours for a long time.
Oh, poor you.

Why don't you let your Scottish, Welsh and Ulster vassal peoples free, then and release yourselves from your burden?
 

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Their fortune tellers saw the brexit negotiation mess so they declined...
;)
 

Blackleaf

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Expect another one, post Brexit. BTW, if they're such a burden on your union, why do you hang on to them?
Bring it on. Two thirds of Scottish trade is with the rest of the UK, so it's not the problem of the English, Welsh or Northern Irish if the Scots vote to Leave.
And if they vote to Leave and then rejoin the EU, they'd have to accept the disastrous euro currency, which is what most Scots wisely don't want. And they'd likely be a net contributor to the EU budget - and would be so without the huge, generous subsidies handed to them every year from the English taxpayer.

As for Wales, it's never been an independent state. England and Wales have always been joined.
 

Curious Cdn

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Bring it on. Two thirds of Scottish trade is with the rest of the UK, so it's not the problem of the English, Welsh or Northern Irish if the Scots vote to Leave.
And if they vote to Leave and then rejoin the EU, they'd have to accept the disastrous euro currency, which is what most Scots wisely don't want. And they'd likely be a net contributor to the EU budget - and would be so without the huge, generous subsidies handed to them every year from the English taxpayer.
As for Wales, it's never been an independent state. England and Wales have always been joined.
Maybe, they both have a better future trading with the Europeans than with a poor, depressed England, who will be suffering forever under punative tarrifs imposed on her as a warning to the EU members not to leave.