GM Closing Down Ontario Plant

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Global warming carbon tax is a World Bank program. JT is not bucking that so if you are going to slander him do it for not standing on his own two feet. If we lose that much money when we don't buck the system how much more would it cost us if we came under sanction due to being 'upstarts'??
 

Danbones

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I absolutely agree with you. Trudeau & Butts must be laughing like hell because they've created the exact climate for business that they've wanted all along and if re-elected, will continue along the same path. They want us to be more reliant on government and poorer, that's for sure!


Serfing the waves of Dom !

His name is Maurice Strong, born in Canada, lived in New York, and now exiled in China, but still the power behind Obama and the liberal House and Senate of America. To start to understand this man and his influence read his statement below to a group of reporters.

“In order to save the planet, the group [GIM] decides: Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring this about? This group of world leaders [GIM] forms a secret society to bring about an economic collapse.”

Maurice Strong - regarding Generation Investment Management LLP

George Soros and his Canadian sidekick, Kyoto architect Maurice Strong, are the brains behind the likes of Al Gore, Mikhail Gorbachev and Barak Obama, all who belong to the above and the “Chicago Climate Exchange” which will make billions on climate change.
http://www.unitypublishing.com/Government/Maurice Strong.htm

Ah yes...Serfdumb.
 

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We might as well embrace the inevitable and adopt unilateral global free trade. No tariffs, no quotas, and no subsidies.
That’s Trump’s goal, Larry Kudlow, Trump’s chief economic advisor, reiterates that point at 2:20 and again at 11:30 of this video.

MAGA
 
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Twin_Moose

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Should it be pointed out that Canada was subsidizing US Companies rather than they were Canadian companies. We are not allowed to 'strike off on our own' or has that not sunk in yet??

They were investing in Canadian jobs and economy by helping out US companies, GM is now taking the bailout and running.
 

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Should it be pointed out that Canada was subsidizing US Companies rather than they were Canadian companies. We are not allowed to 'strike off on our own' or has that not sunk in yet??

I have thought about that too, it wasn't good but it is worse. It used to american companies canadian jobs, now it will be american companies mexican jobs. I hope that sinks in.
 

Danbones

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They were investing in Canadian jobs and economy by helping out US companies, GM is now taking the bailout and running.

Funny thing about "bail outs"
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I have thought about that too, it wasn't good but it is worse. It used to american companies canadian jobs, now it will be american companies mexican jobs. I hope that sinks in.

Well that will screw up the snow bird tourism boom.
 

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Poor market positioning is gm's fault.

Poor market conditions are Trump's fault.

He renegotiated nafta and ruined the north American auto industry going forward
 

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What do you have against Mexican Christians? And what do you have against poor Canadian Christian consumers? With friends like you...
Mexican workers have been screwed by NAFTA (and now its virtually equivalent MCA-FTA) as much or more than Canadian and American labour. Free Trade's profit equation depends on a desperate, captive job market, as you have in the Mexican maquilladoras (union activity, workplace standards, fair employment legislation all ruthlessly suppressed).

It also requires unrestricted movement of investment capital across borders to play off one country against the other. As far as Canadian workers (and the consumer market they represent) go, we have not seen them have a raise in pay and have seen their working conditions devolve into transient retail and service jobs as all permanence and benefits disappear with the onset of the Free Trade, laissez-faire, monetarist era.
 

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America First!

Russia Second!

Saudi Arabia Third!

Canada. . . well, someplace down there with Jamal Khashoggi. Behind Eritrea, South Sudan, and California.




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POOR SHAMELESS Tecumsehbonesforbrains!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


STILL DUCKING the cop training question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Typical LIE-beral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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That’s Ford’s fault.


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OH RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Do you really want to blame Ford for the Green energy fiasco and the electricity price gouging-??????????????????????/


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hey Walter- maybe you should edit that post before you get laughed at quite scornfully!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Uh oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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I don't know if Canadians can build a better truck. But that raises the question of if Canada's the best place to build a truck, why aren't foreign truck manufacturers moving in?


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HEY PEA BRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cdns ARE NOT BUILDING TRUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Because LIE-berals did not BRIBE foreign corporations to come and do so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


DID YOU NOT HEAR??????????????????????????


LIE-berals want to GET RID of all gas powered vehicles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND they want to close down the Alberta oil patch as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals TOLD US THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This is the result of over a century of LIE-beral corporate welfare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Buying jobs and "boosting" the economy with borrowed money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And now the money has run out and all LIE-beral policy is FAILING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Because LIE-berals now lack the money to MAKE us "LIKE" their biased, selfish, discriminatory crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Tecumsehsbones

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POOR SHAMELESS Tecumsehbonesforbrains!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STILL DUCKING the cop training question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Typical LIE-beral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There's no point in answering your questions, since you'll just lie about what I said.

Just like you lied about Jeronimo Yanez being alone, and still refuse to own up to your lie.

Because you're a pussy.
 

spilledthebeer

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There's no point in answering your questions, since you'll just lie about what I said.

Just like you lied about Jeronimo Yanez being alone, and still refuse to own up to your lie.

Because you're a pussy.


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Hey Tecumsehbonesforbrains!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just because YOU REFUSE to read the court testimony DOES NOT MEAN nobody else is reading it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Maybe you better read it just once- for yourself so you will understand how big a fool you are being about this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is people like T-gurly who are responsible for LIE-berals trying to BUY good prss with that $595 million dollar news media slush fund!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Your propaganda bosses really should sit you down some day and explain to you that getting repeatedly CAUGHT in LIES will not be a solid defense of any LIE-beral position!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You have totally LIED about Yannez- but you have yet to issue any response about cop training- in spite of being a blow hard - so here is a chance for you to LIE about that - give us your wisdom oh great purveyor of Fake News- what changes can be made to cop training to prevent the disaster listed below -and how can LIE-beral health care providers ESCAPE being blamed:


Here is an article damning cops with faint praise and illustrating that in some peoples eyes, cops are NEVER in the right! And it illustrates the utterly twisted value system of LIE-berals! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Charleena Lyles Needed Health Care. Instead, She Was Killed. 1/11

The New York Times. By PHILLIP ATIBA GOFF and KIM SHAYO BUCHANAN

Photos of Charleena Lyles, who was killed by the police in Seattle on Sunday/June 17/2017 . © Ken Lambert/The Seattle Times, via Associated Press Photos of Charleena Lyles,

On Sunday morning, two Seattle police officers shot and killed Charleena Lyles in her apartment. She was pregnant, and three of her four children were home. She had called the police to report a burglary. According to the officers’ account, shortly after they arrived, Ms. Lyles, who the police knew was mentally ill, pulled a knife. Both officers shot her. Societal failure to care for mental health, which leaves the police as mental illness first responders, may well have been one deadly ingredient in this tragic encounter.

(ONE DEADLY INGREDIENT? IT’S THE ONLY DEADLY INGREDIENT! What would LIE-beral minded morons have ordered to be done differently by cops? She was robbed and so police MUST speak to her? It is not the job of cops to order psychiatric care for her! Nor is it in their power to ORDER her to take her medication before they will deal with her! And they have no power to do so anyway!)

According to her family and police records, Ms. Lyles wrestled with significant mental health issues. An audiotape reveals officers discussing her police and mental health history immediately before the shooting. Seattle Police Department officers had been called to her residence more than 20 times before this Sunday, with mental illness often figuring in those encounters. The department had placed an officer caution on her address for this reason, meaning officers should be on alert for dangerous behavior from her. Despite repeated previous mental health referrals and the involvement of Child Protective Services, she was alone with her children on Sunday, in distress and with nowhere to turn but 911.

(SO she is OFFICIALLY KNOWN to cops as potentially dangerous? Again- what are mere cops supposed to do with her other than to defend themselves if she attacks? AS she had already been robbed it is likely she was agitated even BEFORE cops got there. Cops might have waited a while to see if she cooled off a bit? Or maybe the deliberate lack of attention and service might have provoked her further? There is no answer and no easy solution other than to persuade LIE-beral minded Hogs that they must provide care even if the patient refuses!)


Ms. Lyles’s situation is not unique. People with untreated mental illnesses are disproportionately likely to attract police attention. The combination of mental illness, racial segregation and poverty is particularly likely to result in police contact, often leading to arrest.

(OH typical LIE-beral garbage! The woman was robbed and IS ENTITLED to police aid- its just too bad LIE-berals will do nothing for her and leave it to police with their hands tied to deal with a total mess! Too many mentally ill persons COULD be stable members of society IF they were compelled to take their medication- and IF they were supplied with it!)

(LIE-berals have created a mental health revolving door- patient acts up and cops are called and gets committed and stabilized and is then released. Once back out, patient often stops taking `meds` due to unpleasant side effects- or is unable to afford meds and ends up in mental trouble again- with cops coming back to deal with patient yet again. This is NOT a cop failing, it is a LIE-beral govt failing with LIE-berals being too greedy to waste money on crazy people!)

In fact, a 2006 Bureau of Justice Statistics study revealed that 24 percent of state prisoners report a history of mental illness, with other sources reporting rates in some larger facilities as high as 70 percent. But it was not always the case that mental illness would result in the cycle of catch and release that evidently plagued Ms. Lyles.

What changed over the past half-century is that the United States has seen a stunning decline in resources devoted to public mental health — during the same time the nation adopted mass incarceration. A 2009 International Association of Chiefs of Police review reported that the available hospital beds for persons suffering from mental illness dropped by 95 percent from 1955 to 2005, to 17 beds per 100,000 persons from 340. From 1985 to 2005, the nation’s incarceration rate tripled.

(AS I said- greedy LIE-berals are keeping the cash and giving mental health sufferers their right- to be set free without adequate supports in place! And LIE-berals consider it unfair to force mental health patients to receive treatment anyway- they can be crazy if they wanna be!)

The shift away from hospital treatment of mental illness was not matched by an offsetting commitment to fund the health care people needed to live on the outside. Medicaid reimbursement rates are so low that it is difficult to find providers who will accept it. As a result, many people with mental illness are functionally uninsured for their most urgent health care needs. That is, state support for mental health retreated at the same time state investment in incarceration exploded — and both with disastrous results for vulnerable communities.

The consequence of the disinvestment in public mental health has also not affected all vulnerable communities equally. African-American people are at least as likely as white people to experience mental health distress but are half as likely to receive mental health treatment. This helps to explain why it’s easy to recall other high-profile cases of police use of deadly force involving black victims with documented histories of mental illness.

To be sure, the disproportionate rate of law enforcement violence against African-Americans has a host of contributing factors, including racial bias, both implicit and explicit. There is most likely no single explanation for the tragedy that occurred when Seattle Police Department officers shot and killed Ms. Lyles. But in her case and others like it, the failure of public mental health services appears to have been one important ingredient in a mix of forces that ultimately proved deadly. Without this failure, Sunday’s encounter might never have occurred.

(OH balls! Race has NOTHING to do with two cops trapped in a crowded room and shooting an enraged crazy woman coming at them with a knife- it’s a survival issue!)

If we are to protect families in similar situations, we must extend the lens of our concern beyond police-community interactions — even in cases where the police pull the trigger. A reinvestment in public mental health resources — including hospitals and, yes, better health care coverage for vulnerable Americans struggling with mental illness — are urgent necessities.

Of course, the cure for these too frequent police-involved shootings must include serious changes within law enforcement. But we must also recommit to changing how we manage mental health if we are to reduce the chances that illness will be treated with gunshots. It is what we owe to Ms. Lyles and to the children who survive her.

(Oh there is the knife in the back for cops to enjoy and to make selfish LIE-berals feel better! LIE-berals insist that “better cop training’ will resolve this issue? HAHAHAHAHA! LIE-berals should STOP lying about cop training and START thinking about giving more cops things like Tazers so they can knock down a crazy person without filling them full of .40mm Glock pistol holes! But here in Toronto, our LIE-berals refuse to give out Tazers to cops for fear cops will “misuse them”!) So Toronto cops- and a lot of Yankee ones too- can only pull out the Glock and blaze away to protect themselves! LIE-berals are desperately seeking a way to blame others for THEIR racist attitudes and lust for power! LIE-berals are afraid to tell the public the truth for fear of being voted out!)
 

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What is that fat tub of shit Doug Ford doing?
"They told me straight up there's nothing we can do," Ford said on Monday, after GM confirmed that the company will stop producing cars and trucks at the major plant east of Toronto.
Well there you go.
Ford is a fat tub of shit for doing nothing? Yet you whined like a little girl about Harper bailing them out. Seems to me that no matter what Conservatives do, you're just going cry like a little girl about it. Boy, I can't wait to see Trudeau carry through on his "vow" to help out the Oshawa GM workers. That ought'a be pathetic.

But hey, I love how you spew crap out of your pie-hole when you clearly have zero idea wtf you're even yammering on about. At least sometimes it's entertaining.
 

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