GM Closing Down Ontario Plant

White_Unifier

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You saying that Canadian couldn't build a good truck? You obviously never owned a truck. They are better than Toyota can make.

I don't know if Canadians can build a better truck. But that raises the question of if Canada's the best place to build a truck, why aren't foreign truck manufacturers moving in?
 

JamesBondo

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foreign trucks are ok. if all you want to do is drive it to and from your work in the city, a Toyota tundra will do you just fine. The reason why they could never manufacture them in Canada is because they don't haul horse trailers and excavating trailers worth a damn. Their diesel engines run away scared if you show them anything in the 18,000 lb range.
 

White_Unifier

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foreign trucks are ok. if all you want to do is drive it to and from your work in the city, a Toyota tundra will do you just fine. The reason why they could never manufacture them in Canada is because they don't haul horse trailers and excavating trailers worth a damn. Their diesel engines run away scared if you show them anything in the 18,000 lb range.

If there's a demand for them and no one else is filling the demand, then why aren't investors pouncing on the opportunity?
 

JamesBondo

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Anyway,I'm not taking sides here. Show me a Dodge, Ford, or a GM with a 3/4 ton suspension and a strong motor, and I know why the foreign manufactures aren't moving into the country.

But to lose all our pickups to US and mexico, I would say that we are as dumb as a sack of hammers, and those terrible Trumpites south of the border are laughing it up at our expense.
 

White_Unifier

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Anyway,I'm not taking sides here. Show me a Dodge, Ford, or a GM with a 3/4 ton suspension and a strong motor, and I know why the foreign manufactures aren't moving into the country.
But to loose all our pickups to US and mexico, I would say that we are as dumb as a sack of hammers, and those terrible Trumpites south of the border are laughing it up at our expense.

Then we'll import the trucks and export something else.
 

JamesBondo

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If you connect the line between working class Canadians and hard working pickup trucks, the pickup holds a status much different and much more admirable than the gas guzzling v10 SUV that disgust most of us especially when they were owned by city drivers. I'm saying that we are sort of losing our heritage when we stop making pickup trucks.
 

JamesBondo

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And, we lose all the things that come with the factory. Schools, bridges, hospitals, parks. All the good shit that doesn't come off the boat with the Mexican made Dodge truck.
 

White_Unifier

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Simple question. If a business can build better trucks in Canada than abroad, then why isn't that happening?
 

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I wouldnt be surprised to see more automakers pull the plug on plants. Honda Accord sales are seriously declining. I'd be nervous in Ohio.
 

JamesBondo

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I wouldnt be surprised to see more automakers pull the plug on plants. Honda Accord sales are seriously declining. I'd be nervous in Ohio.

The honda Accord is a people mover and not a cargo mover. it will be subjected to the same trends and pressures that all vehicles are subjected to.

Trucks have a practical and hard working aspect to them. Even when they are not economical at moving people, they make sense for moving cargo. You can not save the envirement by making dozens of trips in a honda accord to move something that can by carried in 1 trip with a pickup.I don't see that need changing in the future. If trucks start to lose in sales it will be the demographic that probably shouldnt have them.
 

JamesBondo

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There are actually people out there that don't build their own fences and don't lift a finger when something heavy needs to be moved by their family and friends. I reccommend that they buy a car. hell, they can even spew BS out of their mouths about how evil my truck is, but then don't expect me to help them out when they need it.
 

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If a business can't stay afloat without getting special treatment, it's best to let it fold. Why should we raise taxes on more successful businesses to subsidize the lest successful ones?
I'm pretty sure the move in Canada was part of the US downsizing program as GM is nor a Canadian business, it is a foreign owned business so why would we have a say in what they do or don't do?
 
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Do you have any idea what a $50 per tonne carbon tax is going to do to any auto plant, regardless of what their cars and trucks run on? No manufacturer in their right mind would consider Canada as a viable location for their industry with the current gaggle of useful idiots in power, and any manufacturers looking to restructure will be looking at Canadian operations as the first place to cut. I suspect this is only the beginning of the exodus of manufacturing, industrial, and resource development companies that will undoubtedly be leaving this country for greener pastures (pun intended).

This should be regarded as a celebration and a huge victory for Trudeau and his supporters, and for anyone drinking the global warming cool aid. It is exactly what all the punitive government tax policies and bureaucratic red tape is trying to accomplish. I'm not really sure why people are complaining, this is what we voted for!!



I absolutely agree with you. Trudeau & Butts must be laughing like hell because they've created the exact climate for business that they've wanted all along and if re-elected, will continue along the same path. They want us to be more reliant on government and poorer, that's for sure!