Gun Control is Completely Useless.

Hoid

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"Lol poor little George . Sad little man , with a sad little life .

A sad little life that yours seems to revolve around.
 

Curious Cdn

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Everyone on the internet is the toughest mother you wouldn’t want to meet . Poor little George .
No, I told you the truth, again.

You wouldn't know the truth if it slapped you in the face, hence your ongoing confusion about what is right and wrong, etc.
 

Bar Sinister

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10 U.S. Code § 246 - Militia: composition and classes




(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are— (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246


Give it up Bar.........you don't have a leg to stand on.


Didn't answer my question did you? Deflection doesn't work with me.
 

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Colpy

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Oh, and exactly what militia organization did any of these nutcases belong to ?

10 U.S. Code § 246 - Militia: composition and classes




(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are— (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246


Give it up Bar.........you don't have a leg to stand on.

Didn't answer my question did you? Deflection doesn't work with me.


Dear Dimwit;


The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age


The militia of the United States is "exactly (the) militia organization ....... these nutcases belong to"


Reading Comprehension is a wonderful thing. You should try it.
 

Colpy

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Just to push the point home completely, here is the view of the man that wrote the Second Amendment:


"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
- James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789
 

Curious Cdn

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That's the James Madison that invaded my country repeatedly. If you are armed, eventually you use your arms.
 

Colpy

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That's the James Madison that invaded my country repeatedly. If you are armed, eventually you use your arms.


Yep.



And that is why we all must be armed.


Because the state will always be armed, and sooner or later they will use those arms.


Against us.


The state is the primary source of violence in the world, not the people.
 

Hoid

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Innocent people are being shot down in the streets by maniacs of every description.

That's indicates that disarming some people is in order.
 

spilledthebeer

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That's the James Madison that invaded my country repeatedly. If you are armed, eventually you use your arms.


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Some body should tell our Curious Cdn imbecile that Fake Patriotism is the last refuge of a soundrel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Here is an article illustrating how little real interest LIE-berals have in Cdn national security or sovereignty. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Naval ships all sight, no fight.

By Robert Smol.

Special to Toronto Sun. Published: October 14, 2018. Updated: October 14, 2018 4:39 PM EDT

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ Canada

Canada finally launched the first of its Arctic Offshore Patrol Vessels (AOPV) earlier this month.

HMCS Harry DeWolf was formally named by Sophie Grégoire Trudeau, who stated in her speech that she looked forward to hearing about the crew’s “triumphs as they embark on this new chapter in our navy’s proud history.”

(Is it not telling that LIE-berals made sure that the first new ships the navy gets will be the ones LEAST LIKELY to ever encounter a REAL THREAT such as a Russian or Chinese or Iranian navy vessel?)

But whatever triumphs the AOPVs might rack up in the years to come will not be in the area of naval combat.

These new ships represent our navy’s first and, to date, only effort to provide a dedicated Canadian military presence in Arctic waters. Whether we like it or not, this new ship and its capabilities represent this nation’s intentions when it comes to control of the Arctic and the enormous coastal waters that we rightfully claim.

This is why we must fully understand what our new Arctic ships are capable of doing.

And it seems they will be doing quite a bit in terms of surveillance, situational awareness, and support to other governmental agencies. But only as long as there is no actual combat fighting involved.

(Basically the new ships are glorified life boats designed to come to the aid of stranded cruise ships that are plying Arctic waters in increasing numbers!)

(And the new Cdn ships are also intended to rescue stranded Inuit such as the 4 goofs who went out in a 14 ft aluminum boat just before a gale blew in and stranded them on a ice floe!)

( The only available Cdn rescue helicopter had to fly from Nova Scotia up past Hudson Bay- while a Cdn Forces Hercules flew up from Trenton to drop some gear and a couple of military SAR techs by parachute to the stranded Inuit as the weather worsened and their ice floe began to break up!)

(The weather got so bad that one of the military SAR men DIED while on the floe! Eventually after more than a week, the Cdn military copter managed to rescue the group!)

As these ships enter service, the Canadian public needs to take ownership of the fact that our new Arctic ships are not designed to go to war. They are all sight and no fight, and do not have the capability to defend themselves against most air, surface or subsurface threats.

This was made crystal clear in November 2014 when Vice-Admiral Mark Norman, then commander of Canada’s navy, stated before the House of Commons Defence Committee that these new ships are “not being built to deal with the Russians” and they are only meant to provide a “naval presence.”

(As previously mentioned- the new ships are glorified life boats! LIE-berals DO NOT APPROVE of Cdns possessing weapons of any sort! And LIE-beral defense policy is to rely on Yankees for all needs related to defending our sovereignty!)

By way of armament, the Harry DeWolf patrol boats will be equipped with a single 25-mm machine gun which is designed to provide protection against small speed boats. So, it should not come as a surprise that the navy has designated these ships as filling a “constabulary role.”

(Basically they can deal with drug smugglers- IF they are fast enough to catch them!)

(Some Cdns will recall the Turbot War-with Spanish trawlers fishing illegally on Grand Banks for Cod and Turbot and basically thumbing their noses at RCMP trying to board the Spaniards from their inflatable boats! It was not till Cdn destroyers were moved in to back up RCMP rubber boats- that Spanish fishermen began to take notice of new Cdn fishing laws!)

(The really ugly part of the Turbot War was that Spanish fishermen EXPECTED THEIR NAVY to back them up against Canada- and ONLY the threat of action by CDN CF 18 fighters against the Spanish Navy PREVENTED Spaniards from bullying Cdns in their own home waters!)

(Fortunately the LIE-beral Chretien govt had been SHAMED into equipping some of the jets with bomb racks shortly before the Turbot War began! Otherwise the CF 18`s would not have been able to attack a ship!)

(The Pierre Trudeau LIE-beral govt - that had been shamed into buying the jets- had deliberately avoided buying bomb racks for the jets- so they could not attack anything on the ground or in the water! Just the usual LIE-beral hostility to anything military!)

No doubt the navy’s leadership have covered their “sterns” when it comes to making it clear what these ships can, and cannot do.

Can such pacifist “constabulary” naval patrol ships be the norm among our NATO allies currently patrolling their coasts in and around their respective Arctic territories? Absolutely not!

And when making realistic comparisons, we would do best if we stay within our league of capability and look at how our ships stand up to, or sink, when compared to other small NATO navies operating in the region.

Denmark, like Canada, faces the challenge of patrolling and protecting a combined land mass (Greenland and the Faroe Islands) far out of proportion to its southern metropolis. In recent years, Denmark has faced this challenge with the completion of three Knud Rasmussen class of Ocean Patrol Ships.

Though slightly smaller than Canada’s Arctic patrol ships, the Royal Danish Navy’s vessels are armed with an Otobreda 76-mm main gun as well as two 12.7-mm Browning machine guns. The Danish patrol ships are also fitted to fire Evolved Sea Sparrow Missiles (ESSM) and have torpedoes. These Danish ships are equipped to protect themselves if necessary.

(In other words the Danish ships are capable of taking on a typical rusted out and very obsolete Cdn destroyer! When Russia invaded Ukraine- the flagship of the Cdn Atlantic fleet was sent to join NATO Forces in the Black Sea- a series of devastating engine fires early in the trip- persuaded the Cdn navy brass that their flagship was so rusted out it was not fit to leave harbour ever again!)

(Even worse- a couple of relatively new Cdn Frigates took part in the latest NATO military exercises off the Norway coast and of course one of the Cdn Frigates had to be towed to harbour after an engine fire!)

And while Canada’s Arctic ships are still a long way to being fully operational, two of Denmark’s three Arctic patrol ships have been active off the of Greenland over the last two months. These three Danish patrol ships are only a small part of the country’s recently completed fleet modernization.

Elsewhere tiny, social democratic Norway’s answer to its coastal defence challenges is represented, in part, by its fleet of six ultra-fast Skjold Stealth Missile Corvettes each one wielding a 76-mm cannon, eight Kongsberg surface to surface missiles, plus additional Mistral Surface to Air Missile system. The ship also has the Kongsberg M151 Protector Remote Weapon Station, and two 12.7mm machine guns. Certainly not the Canadian way of coastal defence, eh!

Hopefully, as our new naval ships bravely set sail each with their single machine gun, equipped to do battle with small speed boats, Canada can hopefully continue to draw on the goodwill and sacrifice of our well-armed Danish and Norwegian NATO allies to join the United States in providing armed cover to our shiny new constabulary ships.

(It is reports like this one that has prompted Yankee Donald Trump to call Canada a NATO SLACKER! And it did not help our image that Cdn LIE-berals simply assumed that Yankees would protect us from North Korean missiles using their Patriot Missile system that LIE-berals so often mocked a a costly waste of money in years past!)

Happy sailing!

— Robert Smol holds a graduate degree from the Royal Military College of Canada and served in the Canadian Armed Forces for over 20 years. He is currently a teacher and writer in Toronto.
 

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Definition of a civilized society


1. : marked by well-organized laws and rules about how people behave with each other. A civilized society must respond to crime with fairness and justice. a more civilized culture. a person known throughout the civilized world [=everywhere people live in well-organized and developed societies]

Rather nice that Canada falls into this category (mostly)
 
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Colpy

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Definition of a civilized society


1. : marked by well-organized laws and rules about how people behave with each other. A civilized society must respond to crime with fairness and justice. a more civilized culture. a person known throughout the civilized world [=everywhere people live in well-organized and developed societies]

Rather nice that Canada falls into this category (mosty)


It does.


So does the United States of America
 

bluebyrd35

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It does.


So does the United States of America
No it doesn't Too many in the US live by the law of the gun and old rules made for when a proper army and police forces did not exist. The Gun lobby has bought most politicians, highjacking the election process. Limiting what all politicians can spend to get elected needs to be put in place.
 
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