With a little luck, Trump will be assassinated like so many others before him have been and US relations with Canada will return to normal in a decade or so.
What should Canada give up in new NAFTA
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Trump lives Trudeau all of a sudden.....
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/...deau-a-good-person-whos-doing-a-good-job.html
Or is Trump trying to tank Trudeau in the 2019 canadian election by making it seem like they are close? Because Trump is poison to the canadian electorste. Andrew Scheer was grinning from ear to ear yesterday as he suddenly attacked Trudeau on the trade file. I don't know what Scheer was grinning about exactly obviously but it could be that Trump will try to help the Conservatives in the election this way by making it seem like he is close to Trudeau again.
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/...deau-a-good-person-whos-doing-a-good-job.html
Or is Trump trying to tank Trudeau in the 2019 canadian election by making it seem like they are close? Because Trump is poison to the canadian electorste. Andrew Scheer was grinning from ear to ear yesterday as he suddenly attacked Trudeau on the trade file. I don't know what Scheer was grinning about exactly obviously but it could be that Trump will try to help the Conservatives in the election this way by making it seem like he is close to Trudeau again.
I want to know the specs of that pitchfork: velocity, rate of acceleration, range, size of warhead, etc.
http://bcdairy.ca/milk/articles/does-milk-contain-growth-hormones-and-antibiotics
http://albertamilk.com/ask-dairy-farmer/ive-started-buying-organic-milk-based-on-the-assum/
http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=19991128221446
That ought to render American milk as inadmissible into Canada. It has nothing to do with supply management. It us a health issue and American milk is tainted with hormone residues currently banned in both Canada and in the E.U. (but A-OK in America).
Anyone hearing anything about a certain "Clause 32". Watching PP and Don played a clip of Trump's closest advisor talking about the new/same-old agreement. In it, he mentions the above clause and how it could prevent Canada from signing any other trade deal without what amounts to the consent of the Americans.
Edit to add: The advisor's name is Larry Kudlow.
Edit to add: The advisor's name is Larry Kudlow.
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I absolutely agree with this. I do oppose supply management and do support open markets, but that does not mean that we don't impose the same standards on foreign goods as we do on Canadian ones. Sure we can let Us milk into Canada on the condition that it meet Canadian standards. In other words, a US farmer who wants to sell to Canada will need to get appropriate certification to show that he meets that standard. That's not the same as protectionism: that's just imposing the same standards on imports as we do on Canadian-made products. We should not confuse the two and I'm happy to see someone else on here who understands that distinction.
He's referring to a clause requiring Canada to consult with the US and Mexico before it can negotiate an agreement with a 'non-market' country (whatever that means, though I presume it intends China). Canada never should have signed on to that.
Unless we drop our health standards (same atandards that the Europeans use) American milk cannot be sold here and the Yanks have been had.
Trump doesn't care. It's a media event for him and he's had his reality TV moment. "Tough guy negotiator forces another capitulation."
Not entirely. Under the new rules, any US milk producer who's willing to meet the Canadian standard could sell to Canada and I'd welcome that. Hmmm... I don't even buy dairy so why do I even care? Anyway, back on topic, at the end of the day, it would be a choice for that US milk producer to make: if he intends to sell to Canada, he'll need to meet Canadian standards, acquire the same license for the same fee as a Canadian who sells in Canada, and face the same regular spot checks. This would not be about discriminating between domestic and foreign: it would be about ensuring that the foreign producer meet the same standard as the domestic one.
Yup get back on your meds . Sad that a Canadian hero falls to such depths . Poor George .
Canada has to inform the USA (& I suppose Mexico also)
60 days in advance of our 'intention' to even enter talks to
negotiate a trade deal with a 'non-market' country (what
-ever that means). Failure to do so can have Canada
turfed out of this USMCA arrangement. Another extortion
tactic that Canada agreed to unbelievably.
We as a nation need to diversify our trade partners as
soon as we can and every which way we can. We can't
change the fact that we only border one country and it's
become the planets arsehole bully, so we need to lessen
our reliance on that one trade partner for our own survival
as an independent sovereign nation.
We need trade agreements with nations east & west. We
need multiple pipelines fast-tracked and built yesterday
connecting Canada from the Atlantic to the Pacific for
anything we can stuff into them. We need to stress to any
dissenters that this is in the national best interests. We will
always have to deal with America due to our geographical
reality but we can sure lessen our reliance on that one trade
partner. This in not optional or theoretical but a necessity
that needs to happen immediately.
The current US administration treats it's allies like it would its
enemies and sucks up to North Korea and Russia. This trade
agreement sets a president for future US administrations with
its thuggish mobster-like extortion tactics and it worked, and
we still have Steel & Aluminum & Softwood Lumber Tariffs in
place that now have no reason to be removed.
Canada surrendered in this agreement with concessions all
over hell's 1/2 acre, and the only thing I can see that the US
'conceded' upon (something it already had and not just an
outlandish demand backed by threats and intimidation) was the
proportionality of energy imports because it just don't need
them at this point.....and was in their interests to 'concede'
this to stress that it's not needed to negotiate future lower
prices on oil, etc....'cuz what is Canada going to do about it?
Sell it elsewhere at world (non-discount) prices when we can't
get it to port due to bullshit red tape from every direction and
everyone and their freak'n dog all wanting a handout?
This trade agreement is a disaster for Canada and people here
are patting themselves on the back about it? At best it's a shame
-full sellout of our nation and those that are accepting it are just
breathing a sign of relieve that they aren't pooched this time around.
Business as usual? Hardly....
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