Saudi Arabia expelling Canadian ambassador, suspending new trade

EagleSmack

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Back t o the question: What is the best way to simmer all this down.......and move forward. The boy prince is going to have to save face somehow........ and by letting him do it .......we regain c control over the mess. and still retain a degree of dignity.

Let's hear some ideas




Trudeau needs to apologize for his arrogance. Your dignity has been lost. He should have thought of that before he opened his Islamophobic mouth.


It is spiraling out of control!


Canada is going to lose tens of millions if not billions!

JT started by opening the backdoor by acknowledging how far SA has come along on Human rights,


Oh so Justin has begun groveling to the Saudi Prince already?
 

EagleSmack

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Saudi Arabia is the smaller of the two countries in population (20% smaller), area, and the size of our economies.


And they still humbled Canada.


*snicker*



Saudis come here for their education and health care


Now they're going somewhere else.



and Canadians go there to teach and consult to Saudis but the opposite does not occur.


Now they're being sent home.



Not good for Canada at all.
 

Liberalman

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In Saudi Arabia women are second class to the men and the Prince was publicly rebuked by a Canadian government cabinet minister who is a woman who forgot that country customs must be respected if you want trade to flourish Christine Freeland must retweet her human rights issues statement. with the utmost respect to the Prince and this nightmare goes away..
 

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I have to assume that when the KSA says oil sales to Canada will not be affected that it means we will continue to ship them bombs designed to hit civilian targets.

When any luck it is the start of making North America an outcast and the focus will be on the shit-storm the EU will be neck deep in due to them being the fabled revived Roman Empire with a desire to rule from Jerusalem. The nail in our coffin would be when Israel backs their sentiment and after that it is pack mentality.
One more step in making Jerusalem the place that will be the center of attention.
 

Ocean Breeze

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In Saudi Arabia women are second class to the men and the Prince was publicly rebuked by a Canadian government cabinet minister who is a woman who forgot that country customs must be respected if you want trade to flourish Christine Freeland must retweet her human rights issues statement. with the utmost respect to the Prince and this nightmare goes away..
That silly tweet was a diplomatic blunder. I think that the use of twitter must be reevaluated.......as there are times it is totally inappropriate. Twitter is NOT a diplomatic forum.....She has to take ownership of that diplomatic blunder. and do what i diplomatically, and politically right.even if it means resigning. (and stay OFF that damn Twitter......)

Good pints btw.
 

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In Saudi Arabia women are second class to the men and the Prince was publicly rebuked by a Canadian government cabinet minister who is a woman who forgot that country customs must be respected if you want trade to flourish Christine Freeland must retweet her human rights issues statement. with the utmost respect to the Prince and this nightmare goes away..
**** that.
 

justducky

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**** that.
US is privately trying to mitigate the Saudi Canadian spat. I'm betting this making an example of Canada has more to do with a worldwide authoritarian push to push back against liberal countries human rights and anti-corruption agenda. Canadian Foreign Minister and refugee to Canada, Ahmed Hussen, gave a well received anti-corruption speech in Pakistan last week. He spoke of public service as sacred. He is a rockstar in some parts of the world. He is an example how how a far a smart hard working guy can go in a country with very little corruption like Canada. I bet you the Putin's and Saudis of the world are ready to make examples of others who threaten their power with liberal values. I doubt this is an isolated series of incidents. One thing for sure, Trump stepping America back from leadership on the world stage is heartbreaking and likely the most devastating policy amongst many. It used to be that trade was thought of to stop wars between countries and was, in an extra way, a force of good. Now the authoritarians are using it to amass more power at home. And life will not be good for the little people in these regimes as little to none of the benefits of trade will go to them.

"SNIP.....


https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/...anada-tensions-rise?__twitter_impression=true

The U.K. under Theresa May has been consumed by the task of completing the terms for Brexit and is loath to irritate the Saudis given the billions at stake in defense contracts and the potential for lucrative trade deals. May openly pitched London as a listing destination for Aramco, Saudi Arabia’s oil company, and gave Prince Mohammed a warm welcome in March during a high-profile visit that drew protests.

At Trump’s urging, Saudi Arabia has boosted oil production in recent months, limiting the impact on consumers of the president’s decision to reimpose sanctions on Iran. Trump criticized OPEC on Twitter after the London crude price hit a three-year high of more than $80 a barrel in May. The commodity has since retreated to around $72 a barrel.

Saudi Arabia is also seen as the linchpin to the president’s proposal to create a new security alliance in the Middle East -- a so-called Arab NATO -- intended to limit Iranian influence in the region.

Regardless of motivation, the relative U.S. silence on the issue has been noticed in Ottawa. The American response is “a glimpse of what the world looks like without the U.S. advocating for human rights,” Roland Paris, a University of Ottawa professor and former Trudeau foreign policy adviser, said in an interview.

“Right now there is very little solidarity," he added.



.....SNIP"

US is privately trying to mitigate the Saudi Canadian spat. I'm betting this making an example of Canada has more to do with a worldwide authoritarian push to push back against liberal countries human rights and anti-corruption agenda. Canadian Foreign Minister and refugee to Canada, Ahmed Hussen, gave a well received anti-corruption speech in Pakistan last week. He spoke of public service as sacred. He is a rockstar in some parts of the world. He is an example how how a far a smart hard working guy can go in a country with very little corruption like Canada. I bet you the Putin's and Saudis of the world are ready to make examples of others who threaten their power with liberal values. I doubt this is an isolated series of incidents. One thing for sure, Trump stepping America back from leadership on the world stage is heartbreaking and likely the most devastating policy amongst many. It used to be that trade was thought of to stop wars between countries and was, in an extra way, a force of good. Now the authoritarians are using it to amass more power at home. And life will not be good for the little people in these regimes as little to none of the benefits of trade will go to them.

"SNIP.....


https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/...anada-tensions-rise?__twitter_impression=true

The U.K. under Theresa May has been consumed by the task of completing the terms for Brexit and is loath to irritate the Saudis given the billions at stake in defense contracts and the potential for lucrative trade deals. May openly pitched London as a listing destination for Aramco, Saudi Arabia’s oil company, and gave Prince Mohammed a warm welcome in March during a high-profile visit that drew protests.

At Trump’s urging, Saudi Arabia has boosted oil production in recent months, limiting the impact on consumers of the president’s decision to reimpose sanctions on Iran. Trump criticized OPEC on Twitter after the London crude price hit a three-year high of more than $80 a barrel in May. The commodity has since retreated to around $72 a barrel.

Saudi Arabia is also seen as the linchpin to the president’s proposal to create a new security alliance in the Middle East -- a so-called Arab NATO -- intended to limit Iranian influence in the region.

Regardless of motivation, the relative U.S. silence on the issue has been noticed in Ottawa. The American response is “a glimpse of what the world looks like without the U.S. advocating for human rights,” Roland Paris, a University of Ottawa professor and former Trudeau foreign policy adviser, said in an interview.

“Right now there is very little solidarity," he added.



.....SNIP"

Of course no elected official can be seen to be anti anti-corruption (they can't be seen as advocating for corruption). That would be the kiss of death in Pakistan or russia. So they can't push back on that publicly. But human rights seems easy to push back on. At least in this case. Corruption will be protected and never mentioned by name by those that do it.
 
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10larry

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In Saudi Arabia women are second class to the men and the Prince was publicly rebuked by a Canadian government cabinet minister who is a woman who forgot that country customs must be respected if you want trade to flourish Christine Freeland must retweet her human rights issues statement. with the utmost respect to the Prince and this nightmare goes away..

Uh huh, hug a thug be a lib trademark so this suggestion'll have merit at lib hq but non dweebs I'm sure feel butt kissing broadcasts a severe shortage of moral fortitude letting the world know canucks be a pushover. Grovelling is so unbecoming.
 

justducky

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Uh huh, hug a thug be a lib trademark so this suggestion'll have merit at lib hq but non dweebs I'm sure feel butt kissing broadcasts a severe shortage of moral fortitude letting the world know canucks be a pushover. Grovelling is so unbecoming.
Sorry but nobody hugs a thug like Trump. And Stephen Harper is leading the organization of right winging pseudo fascists these days and meeting with Bolton at the White House.
 

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In the end, JT could easily announce that Canada is suspending all oil purchases from Saudi Arabia and the trade war is won (in a dollars and cents perspective)


We should do just that.

If not to disassociate ourselves from this scumbag nation; at least to watch Denis Coderre piss himself when it dawns on him there's no Saudi oil and no energy east pipeline.

Sorry but nobody hugs a thug like Trump. And Stephen Harper is leading the organization of right winging pseudo fascists these days and meeting with Bolton at the White House.


Trump is relatively new to the Thug Hugging. Justine was groomed for it.
 

justducky

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We should do just that.

If not to disassociate ourselves from this scumbag nation; at least to watch Denis Coderre piss himself when it dawns on him there's no Saudi oil and no energy east pipeline.




Trump is relatively new to the Thug Hugging. Justine was groomed for it.
Justin's father hugged Castro close to try and lure him into capitalism in a way the US embargo did not. It worked in the end after Pierre Trudeau was gone. Pierre was good friends with one of the Russian Ambassadors to Ottawa as a way to promote understanding. He was reaching out a hand. No doubt his discussions with the ambassador were recorded by the Russians and Pierre had quite the intellect so some day maybe we will know how Trudeau tried to open their minds. Pierre was also very close to Nyerere of Tanzania who led the country to years of growth and peace after independance. Nyerere received the Awards:*Gandhi Peace Prize,*Jawaharlal Nehru Award for International Understanding. Again Trudeau bridged and engaged during the height of the cold war. Republicans were refusing Kruschev peace offers at the time. And for all those extra year the cold war went on millions died in proxy wars around the globe. So really I have a hard time with what you say about Justin. He learnt great things from his father. Democracies were rarer. Americans were busy supporting tyrants during the whole cold war. And deposed a few lawfully elected Prime Ministers. So you seem to be cherry picking. Pierre Trudeau did what middle powers do. They tried to make the world a bit better on their watch. Nice try though.
 

justlooking

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Justin's father hugged Castro close to try and lure him into capitalism in a way the US embargo did not. It worked in the end after Pierre Trudeau was gone. Pierre was good friends with one of the Russian Ambassadors to Ottawa as a way to promote understanding.


I'm sorry, this is just hilarious.:lol:




Pierre hugged Fidel because all Trudeau's love the Commie strong men.
Pierre and Cuba, Justine and China.


And Pierre was friends with the Russians to get ideas on how to force more Socialism
down the throats of Canadians without them even realizing it.


But thank you for the laugh.
 

justducky

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I'm sorry, this is just hilarious.:lol:




Pierre hugged Fidel because all Trudeau's love the Commie strong men.
Pierre and Cuba, Justine and China.


And Pierre was friends with the Russians to get ideas on how to force more Socialism
down the throats of Canadians without them even realizing it.


But thank you for the laugh.
So are you against public healthcare?
 

justlooking

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So are you against public healthcare?


What that has to do with the Lieberals' love of authoritarian regimes, and Justine getting spanked
by the Saudis for being a virtue signaling dimwit, as usual caring more about foreigners than Canadians,

I'm sure I have no idea.


But I'm sure you will enlighten me.