Is Canada ready for the coming electric vehicle revolution?

spilledthebeer

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Sweden is taking a unique approach to charging systems, installing rails that e vehicles attach themselves to like slot cars in order to recharge.

Amazing technology.

https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/12/sweden-modified-road-recharge-electric-car-while-driving/


Oh yes- AMAZING!!!!!! That the bankrupt EUROPEANS ARE STILL USING TAX MONEY TO SUBSIDIZE LIE-BERAL ELECTRIC TOY VEHICLES!!!!!!!


Poor Hoid- the public enthusiasm for your costly LIE-beral electric Toy vehicles is dying further by the day!!!


Let me remind you of some key issues you so conveniently FORGET:



And the THREE GREAT weaknesses of electric Toy vehicles STILL REMAIN IN PLACE!!!

First is COST- a Tesla model 3 costs $35 grand in U.S. dollars and a Nissan Qashqai costs $20 grand in Cdn dollars- TESLA is TWICE THE COST!


Second is battery range- which a we now know is BADLY compromised when the weather cools! AS for usable battery range after 2-3 months in daily sub zero temperature- NOBODY has tested that- EXCEPT our TTC that bought battery buses and then SCRAPPED THEM!


Third is refueling speed- which REMAINS CUMBERSOME! The LIE-beral program to get fast chargers installed in Toronto area has so far FAILED! At last report- Less than half the chargers LIE-berals contracted for were actually installed! In addition a significant number were BROKEN! Others FAILED to give top level charging speed and instead delivered charging rates that took many hours to complete!


This crap is NOT innovative technology- it is a HUGE LIE-beral GRAVY GRAB by LIE-berals seeking ONLY to suck off enough gravy from their mouldy green energy scam so they can buy civil service Hog votes and cling to power at any price!



And interested taxpayers should beware of NDP since ETFO- our elementary school teachers union has thrown its support behind NDP!


Not only is there no loyalty between Hogs -it appears that NDPers have offered MORE GRAVY to ETFO than LIE-berals did- meaning another round of mad tax and spend Rae Days MADNESS if Horvath should become premier!
 

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This rail system would work to charge vehicles traveling outbound from hub cities.

For instance in Edmonton there could be on on the Henday near the Yellowhead west for traffic travelling west/south and one on the eastern part for East/North traffic.

IN Vancouver there could be one at each Ferry terminal
 

spilledthebeer

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This rail system would work to charge vehicles traveling outbound from hub cities.

For instance in Edmonton there could be on on the Henday near the Yellowhead west for traffic travelling west/south and one on the eastern part for East/North traffic.

IN Vancouver there could be one at each Ferry terminal


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Gosh Hoid- shouldnt you be working on getting funding for your electric planes first????


Or have you jumped the gun on legal weed and are now so high you dont need a PLANE????


That would explain a lot!!!!!


And as a true LIE-beral you are IGNORING all the easy solutions to global warming!!!!!!!!!!!



As previously reported- contrails- the misty streamers of cloudy water vapour emitted by aircraft jet engines have been identified as the absolutely most serious of all sources of global warming! This article contains some new information and- as always- some comments of my own in brackets):

By Suzanne Goldenburg Feb 8, 2016 The Guardian

Global initiative introduces first proposal to reduce airplane pollution

International Civil Aviation Organisation plan of 4% fuel reduction of new aircraft starting in 2028 not enough to halt emissions, environmental groups say

Mon 8 Feb 2016 22.52 GMT. Last modified on Wed 14 Feb 2018 17.18 GMT

This article is over 2 years old

(So Our idiot Boy and his LIE-beral pals have been IGNORING this insidious global warming threat and ramming their gravy grabbing, USELESS, Carbon crap and trade mess on us instead!)

Governments proposed for the first time on Monday to reduce climate pollution from airplanes, plugging one of the biggest loopholes in last December’s landmark Paris agreement.

(The vaunted Paris Climate Agreement has already been PROVEN as a useless and worthless feel good exercise- and now we hear of this vast new source of dangerous pollution that has not yet even been considered!)

The global initiative was a first attempt to halt carbon emissions from air travel – one of the fastest growing sources of climate pollution.

(In the aftermath of the 9/11 terror attack in which 25 percent of the world airline fleet was grounded for the best part of a year- Cdn Geographic Magazine quoted climatologists explaining that air quality across the planet was IMPROVING! The same article also stated that airplanes produce 75-85 percent of ALL pollution related to transportation- that means planes, trains, trucks, cars and ships- whether carrying freight or passengers! Naturally LIE-berals have since IGNORED the reports because if they became publicly accepted it might interfere with the carbon rich lifestyle of LIE-berals and their civil service union Hog allies! But now we have new information and greater detail which they cannot deny without looking very foolish!)

In a call with reporters, White House officials described the standards as “a huge deal”, noting that the aviation authority has also proposed an aspirational goal to achieve carbon neutrality by 2020.

(An “aspirational goal”? I guess that is the Yankee version of a Cdn LIE-beral “stretch goal” that will NEVER be reached?)

But campaign groups, specifically the International Council on Clean Transportation, said the proposed standards were a missed opportunity and would have little real effect in curbing emissions.

The standards proposed at an expert meeting of the International Civil Aviation Organisation (Icao) in Montreal would apply to all new commercial and business aircraft delivered after 1 January 2028.

(No doubt some LIE-berals are even now calculating how much an electric powered airplane might cost them- if funded with OUR tax dollars!)

But they exclude aircraft that are already in use, and as most airlines have lifetimes of 20-30 years, it will take decades to cover the current fleet.

In addition, the standards would on average require only a 4% reduction in the cruise fuel consumption of new aircraft, compared to 2015.

(In other words LIE-berals are PRETENDING to seek solutions to the problem THEY HAVE MADE by handing out so much borrowed money so Pigs might fly- on our dime! One quick and easy way to reduce air travel and resulting global warming would be to simply CUT BACK on Hog Gravy! After all, back in 2012, Cdn news media told us that 97 percent of ALL defined benefit pension plans in the country were in serious danger of going bankrupt!)

(LIE-berals simply CANNOT shovel our cash into civil service union Hog pension plans fast enough! And General Motors employees are jittery after their virtually bankrupt pension plan mandated TWO separate reductions in benefits! And LIE-beral Dalton McGinty rashly promised to use tax payers money to bail out the GM pension- if necessary if only we elected him premier of Ontari-owe! Oh well- just another FORGOTTEN LIE-beral “stretch goal”!)

(LIE-berals have made promises to OSSTF- our Ontari-owe high school teachers totalling fifty five billion dollars in IOU`s- that we cannot honour without breaking our economy! Do the math here- there are NINETEEN civil service unions working for our provincial govt- with three other levels of govt each with its own LIE-beral issued union Hog IOU`s! Yeah- FOUR levels of govt and each one has IOU`s for the unions that serve THEM!!!! That is a total of SEVENTY SIX DIFFERENT union groups- each with their hands out to provincial Ontari-owe and in federal Ottawa ALONE! And then add in the unions in the 10 other provinces and then add in the unions in all our various municipal govts!)

(Hence the Ontari-owe LIE-beral determination to turn our electrical generating system into a GIANT SLUSH FUND FOR HOGS! It also explains the LIE-beral dedication to their carbon crap and trade tax- they DESPERATELY NEED MORE GRAVY!!!! And LIE-berals are quite comfortable in knowing that carbon crap and trade ONLY cleans cash from wallets and leaves the dirt in the air!)

The (Icao) proposals will be put to countries for formal adoption next year.

(Yes- just like the Paris Accords that offered us USELESS promises but permitted LIE-berals to pose for selfies as if they had really done something.... or other!)

Icao said the standard was aimed at larger aircraft, which were responsible for the vast majority of global aviation emissions.

“The goal of this process is ultimately to ensure that when the next generation of aircraft types enter service, there will be guaranteed reductions in international CO2 emissions,” Olumuyiwa Benard Aliu, president of the Icao council said.

“We also recognize that the projected doubling of global passengers and flights by 2030 must be managed responsibly and sustainably.”

(Oh- there it is- a DOUBLING of the airline flights that are already killing our environment! So we had better get used to July heat waves and freak winter weather!)

The exclusion of high-polluting industries such as international aviation and shipping was seen as a major weakness of the historic agreement reached last December.

(And how odd that the Chinese have just aided us in making the sea lanes a little CLEANER! Yes- China has refused to take any more of our recycled crap and that means LESS shipping! But our LIE-beral overlords are now scrambling to find some other way of dealing with our mess! Good luck with that one- incineration is OUT due to pollution concerns; and land fills are handy things- if you can find some place to set one up without enraging the locals; and any REAL recycling is OUT thanks to LIE-beral priorities! LIE-berals DO NOT want to re-open the debate about forcing us to recycle- for one thing the unions making the new cans and bottles might stop voting LIE-beral! And already over taxed and time squeezed citizens are likely to grumble about having to first PAY deposits on food containers and then to wash them out after use so they can be recycled- BECAUSE NOBODY wants to live next door to a recycling collection yard full of cans and bottles laced with rotting food waste on a hot day made even hotter by govt flying Pigs!)

White House officials said they were satisfied with the proposed standard – given the range of countries’ positions. The European Union and some emerging economics had been reluctant to take stronger action. “This is a really a strong result,” the officials said. “It’s the first ever CO2 standards for aircraft covering existing aircraft.”

But campaign groups suggested the Icao recommendations would do very little to rein in emissions – and in some cases lagged behind technology that was already in use.

(AS I have said- THE SIMPLE SOLUTION is to cut back on Hog gravy that we cannot afford to pay anyway as govt has already borrowed past our limit already! And it might be useful to penalize those cottage owning Hogs who install those “bubble systems” around their precious Muskoka dock so their valuable cedar structures loaded with gas guzzling Toys will not be damaged by winter ice! Think of it- a bunch of electrical powered bubble systems running ALL WINTER- SIX MONTHS STRAIGHT- to keep the water from freezing around the docks of privileged Hogs! What price for our environment now?)

According to an analysis by the International Council on Clean Transportation, some of the top performing commercial aircraft were already achieving the standard – with room to spare. By 2020, eight years before the proposed standards were even due to come into effect, the average aircraft would already be 10% more efficient than the Icao standard.

(In other words such an agreement is ALREADY USELESS- with NO HOPE of cobbling another more effective deal together because LIE-beral Pigs ARE ENTITLED TO FLY! Even if it kills the environment!)

“Given the substantial lead time for the standards, along with anticipated fuel efficiency gains for new aircraft types already in development by manufacturers, the standards will serve primarily to prevent backsliding in emissions,” ICCT said in a statement. “Additional action would be required for the standard to reduce emissions below business as usual.”

(Of course greater fuel efficiency means lower operating costs and MORE PASSENGERS- along with more dirt! Oh my! Get those Pigs OFF the planes!)

Vera Pardee, an attorney for the Centre for Biological Diversity, said the proposed standard put an additional burden on the Obama administration to make good on earlier promises to cut aviation emissions.

The Environmental Protection Agency had been waiting for Icao to bring in its standards before moving to cut emissions from the domestic airline industry.

However, the White House would not say whether the EPA would propose those new domestic standards before Barack Obama leaves the White House.

(And we know that Obama is a LIE-beral and thus ALL TALK and NO ACTION!!! Besides Obama is still busy ducking questions about why he and FBI did not bother acting on reports of Russian meddling in the Yankee election that brought Trump to power! Oh well- its LIE-beral business as usual!)
 

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This rail system would work to charge vehicles traveling outbound from hub cities.

For instance in Edmonton there could be on on the Henday near the Yellowhead west for traffic travelling west/south and one on the eastern part for East/North traffic.

IN Vancouver there could be one at each Ferry terminal


Any intense planning for electric travel is about 50 years premature at this point. The technology by the time it becomes a fact of life will be so much more advanced. Planning today would be like planning 747s the day after the Kittyhawk was flown.
 

Hoid

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Musk announces deal in China to build 500,000 vehicles a year.

Also an extra $20,000 per model X and S due to president poop stains tariffs.

Meanwhile BMW investing billions in all electric including a $4 billion battery development.

they already have an all electric mini and are looking at an all electric iX3 suv for 2020.
 

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Timed obsolescence. Nobody imports nice cars because of it. Would you by a BWM 835 if it was to be crushed in 5 years?
 

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Musk announces deal in China to build 500,000 vehicles a year.

Also an extra $20,000 per model X and S due to president poop stains tariffs.

Meanwhile BMW investing billions in all electric including a $4 billion battery development.

they already have an all electric mini and are looking at an all electric iX3 suv for 2020.

Right on more intellectual property to steal and be reproduced in Chinese vehicles :)

Timed obsolescence. Nobody imports nice cars because of it. Would you by a BWM 835 if it was to be crushed in 5 years?

The Chinese know how to keep an economy rolling and keeping junk off the road :lol:
 

spilledthebeer

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Right on more intellectual property to steal and be reproduced in Chinese vehicles :)



The Chinese know how to keep an economy rolling and keeping junk off the road :lol:




Oh yes- the Chinese DO know how to keep an economy rolling!!!!! Apparently they have read Brave New World in which it is the DUTY of all citizens to CONSUME locally made products!


The point of mandatory consuming was to put your neighbours to work and ensure full employment in society!!


Its very much like the current LIE-beral policy of handing out grants to so called "artists and activists"!!


And the related LIE-beral policy of making sure that as many civil service union Hogs as possible are hired also fits the full employment model!


Problem is that when govt meddles with the economy then govt makes messes in the economy!


LIE-berals have proven this with their relentless drive to put as much of our society under govt control as they can!!!!


One has only to look at our not so "affordable housing"- those cockroach. mouse and bed bug infested tenements that govt has not the money to repair!


Or we could look at welfare policy which helps nobody except the vast army of poverty pimps who feed off it! All those social workers and others just going through the motions because there are no affordable apts for their clients to be sent to and no jobs to send them to either! And what of all those "street nurses" staffing safe injection sites and tending to over dosed drug addicts- who have often over dosed repeatedly! Who benefits from making it EASIER for addicts to stay on drugs?


And some ultra greedy LIE-berals are excited about electric cars- but do NOT want to talk about how many govt grants- read costly and calculated bribery to business - were handed out in order to get business partially on side! Business will drop electric Toy cars just as soon as the grants stop flowing!



And always greedyu LIE-berals do not ever wish to admit how much it will cost us to honour the insane pension promises that LIE-berals made to civil service union Hogs! There are hundreds of billions of dollars worth of LIE-beral IOU`s floating around out there- we didnt have the money when the promises were made and we dont have it now either!


LIE-berals tell us the want to make things better- and they do- THEY WANT THINGS BETTER- FOR THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Very few people alive today have to overly concern themselves with the coming vehicle revolution. The "Second Coming" will likely transpire first!
 

Hoid

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both Tesla and BMW making big moves into China. They have seen the future of the car and it is China and it is electric.
 

spilledthebeer

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Very few people alive today have to overly concern themselves with the coming vehicle revolution. The "Second Coming" will likely transpire first!


YEAH!!!! I laughed right out loud on this one!!!!


The "Second Coming" IS more likely than a vehicle revolution inspired by LIE-beral BRIBERY!!!!!


AS for Musk and his "deal" with China- do you suppose he will actually make money on this?


Or can he benefit the Chinese economy in some useful way- other than to teach them NOT to trust western slick willy "financiers"???


One has to wonder if Musk should not first concentrate on actually making Model 3 cars at a profit before expanding yet again -into deeper uncharted waters?


China already has electric Toy car makers- will they do what they can to make life difficult and unprofitable for the western intruder?


Musk may get mashed in that Chinese market!!!!



But then Musk is ALREADY in trouble in his western niche market with quality control issues and production slow downs at his red ink plagued Nevada factory!
 

Hoid

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The global economy is dictating how it will operate.

it will build things for people who need them in the most economically sensible place.

its nothing personal
 

Hoid

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You can tax and tariff all you want to try and control the free market but in the end economics is economics. America is post industrial and trying to change that is flying in the face of reality.
 

spilledthebeer

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You can tax and tariff all you want to try and control the free market but in the end economics is economics. America is post industrial and trying to change that is flying in the face of reality.




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The "global economy just dictated that LIE-beral Wynne-bag and her insane spendoholic pals had to commit political hari-kiri!


This means the global economy just dictated that Ontari-owe subsidies for electric Toy cars and mouldy green energy ARE DEAD!!!!!


The global economy is en route to PUNISH Our idiot Boy with HARSH trade tariffs because Our idiot Boy is the worst money manger in Cdn history!!!!


The global economy is going to ensure that Our idiot Boy MUST compromise what few principles he holds dear- he will either be FORCED- as leader of a minority govt in 2019 - to proceed with building Kinder Morgan pipeline- or the idiot Boy will be FORCED OFF the Cdn political stage for ever!!!!!!


Cdn debt loads have reached such a point that one day soon the global economy will FORCE Cdn govts to cut back on spending!


Cdn debt has reached such a point that we can now actually FORGET about what the global economy wants and simply focus on the demands by ordinary Cdns for a new and far more sensible and responsible govt!


The battle lines are being drawn- the global economy and ordinary Cdns on one side- and idiot LIE-berals and their civil service union Hog allies backed up by an array of bigots from Black Lives Matter and Idle No More native racists!


The global economy dictated that the value of carbon credits issued in the state of California should DROP IN VALUE SIMPLY BECAUSE FORD WAS ELECTED IN ONTARI-OWE!!!! This occurred thanks to California partnering with LIE-beral governed Ontari-owe and Quebec in a carbon crap and trade tax scam!!!


Ford has taken Ontari-owe OUT of the partnership and crippled it- meaning civil service union Hogs will NOT begetting that great new flow of gravy after all!