Is Canada ready for the coming electric vehicle revolution?
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Natural gas too!
.. And as NG is natural (it says so in the name), it's extra gooder for combating global warming
Markets will advance green agenda — even if some governments lose interest: Don Pittis
New research asserts politics won't stop business and technology from forging a low-carbon future
Markets will advance green agenda
The market is moving towards the green alternative because its where the consumer interest and therefore the money is.
Kids in school today are not going to be interested in gassers.
They are like the first generation to be confronted with the automobile VS the horse choice. The old people wanted the horse but the young people wanted the car.
Likewise the electric or hybrid will simply eliminate the gasser as a matter of course.
It is the free market rather than the government that will force the issue.
New research asserts politics won't stop business and technology from forging a low-carbon future
Markets will advance green agenda
The market is moving towards the green alternative because its where the consumer interest and therefore the money is.
Kids in school today are not going to be interested in gassers.
They are like the first generation to be confronted with the automobile VS the horse choice. The old people wanted the horse but the young people wanted the car.
Likewise the electric or hybrid will simply eliminate the gasser as a matter of course.
It is the free market rather than the government that will force the issue.
To date nobody has found a way to extract cheap
Hydrogen.
BTW, electrolysis which is mostly touted is not cheap.
Re. the free market, "or maybe not".
After many decades of research we still have no:-
1. Decent batteries.
2. Fast charging methods.
3. Reliable added huge electrical generation (still!).
The universe is under no obligation to help humanity.
No use even thinking about it in the next 40 years! We still have lots of oil & now that the pipeline is going ahead, people should quit worrying.
When man learns to break the SiO2 (silicone dioxide) bond we"ll have more energy than we'll know what to do with.
LIE-berals are so devoted to their electric Toy vehicles it is entirely clear that they plan to use them to grab huge gobs of gravy after they somehow figure out how to get the dictatorial powers needed to destroy oil and gas production!
And Hoid suggests that the younger generation will not have interest in gas powered cars!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
The kids are too busy paying off their student debts to be interested in a car of any sort!
I suggest that one major reason for the Doug Ford election win was because of the number of kids out there looking at their student debt and doing some elementary math about the AVERAGE NINE YEARS that it takes a kid to kill student debt- and then they looked at LIE-beral debt that is simply being wasted on civil service union Hogs and the kids said "HELL NO"!
https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/infrastructure/a21272148/e-bikes-everywhere/
took a trip to Salt Spring Island last week and saw dozens of e bikes.
this is really the first sector that electric will dominate.
took a trip to Salt Spring Island last week and saw dozens of e bikes.
this is really the first sector that electric will dominate.
Speaking for myself I'm not ready and I'm not the slightest bit interested. F**king electric lawn mowers are a pain in the ass! :lol:
Poor Hoid- he has been accused of being some sort of Public Relations man for Kinder Morgan -and I suspect he has a part time job selling electric BIKES!
How else to explain his obsession with those electric TOY vehicles!
Electrical bikes were big in southern Ontari-owe for a while but the number of them that are now permanently PARKED is LARGE!
Nobody bothered to explain to their owners what happens to the batteries if you park the machine OUTSIDE for the winter months!
You cannot simply leave the thing in a parking lot for the winter as the battery gets KILLED!
And it is COSTLY to replace such a battery- hence the number of e-bikes currently acting as lawn ornaments!
And even if you keep your electric Toy running- one has only to watch the operators struggling to avoid being run off the road during rush hour!
Electric Toy bikes cannot keep up with traffic moving at 60 kmh on level ground and if there is a hill then their speed drops further so they cannot even keep up with 50 kmh traffic!
The result of operating an electric Toy bike on main streets at rush hour is enraged car and truck drivers passing the Toy traffic hold up in its own lane!
Getting crowded in your own lane like that is Hugely dangerous and of course no cops around to hand out tickets because LIE-berals insist the world is becoming a nicer place and we have no need of cops- besides cops cost money and LIE-berals NEED ALL THE GRAVY FOR THEMSELVES!
https://www.greencarreports.com/new...why-you-should-care-about-electric-car-racing
VW IDR obliterates the Pikes Peak record.
VW is spending $84 billion on electric RandD, and will probably surpass Tesla as the major car maker of e cars.
once again this is a niche - racing at altitude, where electric has already surpassed gas.
without getting into the science of it, electric engines perform at altitude just as they perform at sea level.
gas engines do not
VW IDR obliterates the Pikes Peak record.
VW is spending $84 billion on electric RandD, and will probably surpass Tesla as the major car maker of e cars.
once again this is a niche - racing at altitude, where electric has already surpassed gas.
without getting into the science of it, electric engines perform at altitude just as they perform at sea level.
gas engines do not
Don't get too hung up on electric vehicles anytime in the next 75 years, Hoid. They have about as much change of taking over the automobile industry as Rolls Royce has of replacing General Motors. :lol:
Yes!!!!!! Hoid Hypocrite tells us that electric motors perform just as well at sea level as they do on top of a mountain!
The little detail he DOES NOT WANT TO DISCUSS IS HOW WELL BATTERY POWERED ELECTRIC MOTORS PERFORM IN THE COLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am sure Hoid owns a lot of stock in Tesla Motors- stock which may NOT hold its value in the next few years as Tesla struggles to produce sedans like the Model 3 at a profit!
Poor Hoid- his fiscal future depends on him being able to sell us on these Electric TOY Vehicles and he is FAILING!!!!!!!!
And now that Doug Ford is in charge in Ontari-owe there will NOT be a lot of new money put into the LIE-beral electric TOY car mess!
In fact if I was Ford I would have a hard look at the rapid charger installation mess left behind by LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!
Consider:
Here is another article illustrating yet another LIE-beral failure as they desperately try to promote their electric car mess- the total screw up that is an extension of their costly mouldy green energy fiasco! With some comments of my own in brackets):
(Ontari-owe LIE-berals have been working very hard to turn our electrical system into a giant slush fund for their pals. First- they offered up huge incentives for builders of wind and solar power generators- that ERASED the property rights of people living near the noisy eye sores! Then LIE-berals sold off a chunk of our electrical system to private investors- meaning select LIE-beral pals- and then drove up electrical costs further to obtain the gravy their investor pals demanded! And now LIE-berals are messing with electric car business- apparently in hope of collecting huge windfall profits by using our tax money to force us out of gas cars and into electric cars that are dependent on the LIE-beral electrical grid- meaning even more profit for LIE-beral electric slush fund!)
(LIE-berals recently set up a contract to get private companies to install and maintain electric car charging stations around Ontari-owe and the results are the usual LIE-beral failure! A new Mississauga based company KSI was chosen to instal and maintain 337 chargers- and in the specified contract period- only slightly over half of them were installed and many of them are said to malfunction regularly- in the same fashion as those failing Presto TTC card readers!)
Among the top EV charging network firms that bid on the contract apart from KSI were Quebec-based Arza Network Canada Inc. which submitted a $14.6-million bid, Toronto’s Plug’n Drive at $16 million and Vaughan’s Autochargers.ca at $20 million. KSI submitted the cheapest proposal at $10.8 million and received final approval for $11.4 million because three other approved funding recipients withdrew from the program and the ministry decided to reallocate that money.
(Three approved bidders dropped out when LIE-berals started fiddling with the subsidies? AS I have said- take away govt subsidies and electric car and mouldy green energy deals DIE! Its only LIE-beral greed keeping this “industry” alive!)
Gleb Nikiforov, the CEO of Autochargers.ca, said he submitted a 2,200-page proposal — 400 pages contained referrals from well-known companies in the electric vehicle industry, including ChargePoint equipment — to install chargers at 100 locations predominantly in the corridors between major cities.
(A 2200 page proposal? Did the ministry not write its own specifications? Or did Nikiforov IGNORE govt specs and write his own? And what makes him think civil service union Hogs are capable of properly assessing his massive document in the available time anyway? Is this an example of B.S. trying to baffle dumb Hogs?)
Nikiforov said the Ministry of Transportation stopped communicating with him two weeks prior to announcing the winning bids — though he says his biggest beef isn’t with ministry officials, but with the unreliability of the company that won.
(Perhaps they stopped talking to him because he wrote his own specs instead of bidding on what govt asked for? LIE-berals are not fit to set up a new industry anyway so how can they deal with the 2200 page Nikiforov business “vision”?)
“We were extremely disappointed. The province could have had the best equipment, which are backed up by the best companies in the market,” said Nikiforov. “We had a very solid proposal. They ceased all communication with us and we weren’t even awarded a single location.
“A lot of municipalities went through the request-for-proposal process after they were awarded the initial funds, so that was weird. How they calculated the money allotted based on that, I don’t know.”
(For LIE-berals everything is about rewarding friends and punishing enemies- a cynic must assume that KSI is a LIE-beral pal! After all- one would have to suspect a low bid- that is nearly ONE THIRD BELOW the next bidder- offered by an inexperienced company- versus a higher bid from a company with lots of experience? Unless you were a LIE-beral seeking to BUY pals?)
Nikiforov speculates the government blindly went with the cheapest bidder, and the cheapest bidder made what may turn out to be a fatal error.
“I think (KSI) went full throttle on it and promised too much and the ministry believed them and they didn’t fulfill their promise,” he said. “Their approach of creating their own software – a small company like that, with that little money, it’s impossible. ChargePoint is the largest company in the industry. They spent $100 million on software to make it work. There’s a Blink network in the U.S. that used the same approach as KSI and they got bankrupted.”
Vic Burconak President of KSI #Mississauga speaking @OntMinTransport event – watch live now https://t.co/YtPSfmkRaT pic.twitter.com/Vi7tHc8jmC
— VVC Productions (@VVCAudioVisual) April 28, 2016
KSI is the brainchild of Vic Burconak, listed on his LinkedIn profile as president and CEO of the company and who describes himself as a “senior business executive with over 25 years of sales and operational experience launching, building and managing businesses.”
“A visionary sales executive with a passion for the ‘hunt’ and proven track record for over achieving goals by implementing strategies that endear clients, drive revenue and secure new accounts,” the profile said. “Outstanding ability to ‘close.’”
(IN other words they guy is a salesman with a glib manner and no real experience with electric cars or their charging systems- nor with the software that runs them and which also allows for automated billing through credit cards!)
The Manitoba native lists himself as a past managing partner of Koben Homes, where he said he flipped homes and condos and then worked for iBuild management software for residential builders and renovators. He also worked as an actor on a Canadian TV series called, Masterminds.
(OH! He is an actor- that will be useful in dealing with LIE-berals! And flipping homes will give so much training for developing costly software! With LIE-berals- everything is about politics and optics- business details are not IMPORTANT!)
According to an Ontario provincial corporation profile report, KSI was incorporated on Oct. 7, 2010, and headquartered at his home on Crestdale Rd. in Mississauga. Burconak registered a new address in a commercial plaza on Dunwin Dr. three years later, according to Industry Canada documents, who list the green energy company with 50 or few shareholders.
Burconak’s estranged sister, Kristyn Kelly, alleges her brother used an inheritance after their parents died in 2012 and 2013 to fund his company. The Sun was shown e-mails regarding the parents’ estate division sent to Kelly using Burconak’s KSI company e-mail.
“He started this business and he doesn’t have any knowledge of electric vehicle charging systems,” she said.
Kelly, 52, said their relationship growing up in Winnipeg was strained. She characterized him as “narcissistic.” She added HE doesn’t own an electric car and instead opts to drive “a giant gas-guzzling Dodge Ram pickup.”
(OH! There is a gassed up little detail LIE-berals will NOT want discussed! Their star electric car promoter WILL NOT DRIVE ONE! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
“I think he created KSI solely to make money. He won’t be a success at it,” she said. “He has no experience building these networks … He’s not competent to do this kind of work. He has the initiative to make money, but not to satisfy customers.”
(Oh lets take a cynical guess that even though KSI may never complete its charging installations properly- we may guess that Burconak WILL make money from our ever wasteful Hogs!)
Sweden is taking a unique approach to charging systems, installing rails that e vehicles attach themselves to like slot cars in order to recharge.
Amazing technology.
https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/12/sweden-modified-road-recharge-electric-car-while-driving/
Amazing technology.
https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/12/sweden-modified-road-recharge-electric-car-while-driving/