Huck Sanders thrown out of restaurant

[Hoid]

Because she works for Trump.

LMAO wtf do you expect? DO you expect to hurt innocent people and everyone will still be nice to you?

If you think anyone is ever going to forget the lies you have been telling you really do belong at Fox news - which is where you already work anyway

Sarah Sanders says she was thrown out of Virginia restaurant because she works for Trump | Fox News

 

[Twin_Moose]

Is this better or worse than refusing to bake a cake based on religion?

 

[justlooking]

She should the ass off the restaurant, and force it to close.


She won't of course, she has too much class for that.

 

[pgs]

She should the ass off the restaurant, and force it to close.


She won't of course, she has too much class for that.

Yes but the restaurant may have pissed off a bunch of its customers , time will tell . Remember Chic Filla .

 

[Curious Cdn]

She should the ass off the restaurant, and force it to close.

It's a dictatorship, then?

 

[Walter]

Yes but the restaurant may have pissed off a bunch of its customers , time will tell . Remember Chic Filla .

Chic-fil-a is doing very well since the progs tried to shut it down.

 

[Johnnny]

Is this better or worse than refusing to bake a cake based on religion?

I'd say yes and no.

In my opinion religion should not be used as an excuse not to bake a cake while at the same time someone's political leanings should not disqualify them from eating at a restaurant.

Mind you a bakery and a restaurant are private establishments and the cake thing showed that the owner can serve who they want to serve. Does that apply across the board now?

Now there is the example of black people being refused the right to eat at diners with Whites and we can all agree that's wrong.

So the previous 2 points of the bakery and restaurant would say that both the owners are in the wrong. Or is it ok now to only serve people based on their ethnicity?

America is losing its grip. The cake verdict was a step backwards.

 

[spaminator]

Because she works for Trump.
LMAO wtf do you expect? DO you expect to hurt innocent people and everyone will still be nice to you?
If you think anyone is ever going to forget the lies you have been telling you really do belong at Fox news - which is where you already work anyway
Sarah Sanders says she was thrown out of Virginia restaurant because she works for Trump | Fox News

was she thrown out head first?

 

[Hoof Hearted]

Hoid-

"If you think anyone is ever going to forget the lies you have been telling..."

Most of us on this forum have long memories, which is why you have next to zero credibility around these parts.

 

[Twin_Moose]

I'd say yes and no.

In my opinion religion should not be used as an excuse not to bake a cake while at the same time someone's political leanings should not disqualify them from eating at a restaurant.

Mind you a bakery and a restaurant are private establishments and the cake thing showed that the owner can serve who they want to serve. Does that apply across the board now?

Now there is the example of black people being refused the right to eat at diners with Whites and we can all agree that's wrong.

So the previous 2 points of the bakery and restaurant would say that both the owners are in the wrong. Or is it ok now to only serve people based on their ethnicity?

America is losing its grip. The cake verdict was a step backwards.

I somewhat agree I just believe the marketplace should be the one to decide, if it is an outrage the shop would soon be out of business, or create a new shop that does cater and siphoning off consumers to show the true market.

 

[JLM]

I somewhat agree I just believe the marketplace should be the one to decide, if it is an outrage the shop would soon be out of business, or create a new shop that does cater and siphoning off consumers to show the true market.

Yep, Gov't should enact and enforce laws, otherwise keep their nose out of business.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Sarah Huckabee Sanders was asked to leave a restaurant. The owner explains her decision that sparked a fierce social media debate.

Stephanie Wilkinson said she had no regrets about asking President Trump's press secretary to leave her 26-seat restaurant in rural Virginia Friday evening, an action that touched off a debate that was still raging the following day.

��I would have done the same thing again,�� Wilkinson said. ��We just felt there are moments in time when people need to live their convictions. This appeared to be one.��

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ng_now__alert-politics--alert-national&wpmk=1



This incident and others like it ....are a symptom of the fissures that Trump has created in america. with his belligerent divisiveness. The country is FRACTURED....... Pro Trump vs Anti Trump. He created this mode and it is unsettling......as folks are getting very angry. We are seeing history (in the world) repeat itself.......where ONE person (man) can create this much chaos ,disorganization, anger, or fanatical following.as well as DESTABILISATION..with trump getting out of control on a frequent and regular basis........which is ripe for a more militant approach to law and order........

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

She should the ass off the restaurant, and force it to close.


She won't of course, she has too much class for that.

Or rather, she won't because she has no grounds.

I somewhat agree I just believe the marketplace should be the one to decide, if it is an outrage the shop would soon be out of business, or create a new shop that does cater and siphoning off consumers to show the true market.

Oddly enough, you have pretty much stated the basis of U.S. law. Generally a place of public accommodation (stores, restaurants, etc.) may discriminate on any basis they please. We have made protections for certain classes because our history shows that our society will distort the usual rules of the market out of hate for certain classes: race, color, religion, national origin, and sex were the originals. We have since added Vietnam veteran status and disability.

That's the Federal law. State and local laws vary, according to the particular circumstances in the jurisdiction. Many people are surprised to discover that there is no Federal law against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. The Colorado case of the Bigot Baker, for example, was brought under Colorado's law, not the Federal law. Another example would be the city of Cincinnati, Ohio. It has a law forbidding discrimination on the basis of "Appalachian heritage," i.e., discrimination against hillbillies. The city passed this law because many people from the hills of western Kentucky come to Cincinnati for work, and they found a great deal of discrimination.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Or rather, she won't because she has no grounds.



Oddly enough, you have pretty much stated the basis of U.S. law. Generally a place of public accommodation (stores, restaurants, etc.) may discriminate on any basis they please. We have made protections for certain classes because our history shows that our society will distort the usual rules of the market out of hate for certain classes: race, color, religion, national origin, and sex were the originals. We have since added Vietnam veteran status and disability.

That's the Federal law. State and local laws vary, according to the particular circumstances in the jurisdiction. Many people are surprised to discover that there is no Federal law against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. The Colorado case of the Bigot Baker, for example, was brought under Colorado's law, not the Federal law. Another example would be the city of Cincinnati, Ohio. It has a law forbidding discrimination on the basis of "Appalachian heritage," i.e., discrimination against hillbillies. The city passed this law because many people from the hills of western Kentucky come to Cincinnati for work, and they found a great deal of discrimination.

Would those laws apply to limiting or allowing access to places of worship, as well?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Would those laws apply to limiting or allowing access to places of worship, as well?

No. Freedom of exercise of religion, being in the Constitution, trumps Federal law. Churches can, and do, discriminate against many of the prohibited classes.

Until recently, the general rule was "You can hate ni**ers, or b*tches, or sp*cs, or f*ggots as much as you like in your church, but when you enter into the stream of commerce, you must live by the rules of commerce."

That may be changing. The Bigot Baker case was inconclusive.

It'll be interesting to see if the Red Hen survives the usual tools of the White Right (arson, vandalism, murder, terrorism). It's pretty deep in "paddle faster, I hear banjos" country.

 

[Curious Cdn]

No. Freedom of exercise of religion, being in the Constitution, trumps Federal law. Churches can, and do, discriminate against many of the prohibited classes.

Until recently, the general rule was "You can hate ni**ers, or b*tches, or sp*cs, or f*ggots as much as you like in your church, but when you enter into the stream of commerce, you must live by the rules of commerce."

That may be changing. The Bigot Baker case was inconclusive.

In this day and age of agressively soliciting "Evangelists", the boundry between church and business is pretty blurry or non-existent in an aweful lot of cases.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

In this day and age of agressively soliciting "Evangelists", the boundry between church and business is pretty blurry or non-existanr in an aweful lot of cases.

I've never understood why the MAGAhats hate a beggar on the streets, but love one standing behind a pulpit.

 

[Kreskin]

I don't see what the problem is. Trump treats anyyone who disagrees with him like shit. She speaks for him. This is what MAGA is all about. She should be celebrating the restaurant owner's behavior.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I don't see what the problem is. Trump treats anyyone who disagrees with him like shit. She speaks for him. This is what MAGA is all about. She should be celebrating the restaurant owner's behavior.

The White Right just hates being treated the way it wants to treat others.

The ownder of the Red Hen should triple her fire insurance. Arson is the go-to tactic of the coward and the psychopath.

 

[Kreskin]

The White Right just hates being treated the way it wants to treat others.

The ownder of the Red Hen should triple her fire insurance. Arson is the go-to tactic of the coward and the psychopath.

Response from the owner:

The Red Hen is no bigger than some apartments, and the group table was impossible to miss: Sanders in a black dress, her husband, three or four men and women of roughly similar ages, and an older couple.

“They had cheese boards in front of them,” Wilkinson said. Like any other family. The kitchen was already preparing the party’s main course. Wilkinson interrupted to huddle with her workers.

Several Red Hen employees were gay, she said. They knew Sanders had defended Trump’s desire to bar transgender people from the military. This month, they had all watched her evade questions and defend a Trump policy that caused migrant children to be separated from their parents.

“Tell me what you want me to do. I can ask her to leave,” Wilkinson told her staff, she said. “They said yes.” “Whatever happens, we will soldier on,” Wilkinson said. “Absolutely, yes, I would have done the same thing again.