New Trump Immigration Bill gets REJECTED

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Jinonphonics says it's Trudeau's fault.


House rejects hard-right immigration bill, baring GOP divide

WASHINGTON—The House killed a hard-right immigration bill Thursday and Republican leaders delayed a planned vote on a compromise GOP package with the party’s lawmakers fiercely divided over an issue that has long confounded them.

The conservative measure was defeated 231-193, with 41 Republicans — mostly moderates — joining Democrats in voting against it. Those defections — nearly 1 in 5 GOP lawmakers — underscored the party’s chasm over immigration and the election-year pressures Republicans face to stay true to districts that range from staunchly conservative to pro-immigrant.

Thursday’s vote set the stage for debate on the second bill, this one crafted by Republican leaders in hopes of finding an accord between the party’s sparring moderate and conservative wings.

They are delaying a vote on the compromise legislation until next week and are planning changes in hopes of salvaging the legislation.

GOP lawmakers leaving a two-hour closed-door meeting say leaders will add two provisions to the sweeping legislation to attract more backing.

One would require employers to use an online system to verify the citizenship of their employees, which could attract conservatives. The other would make it easier for employers to retain migrant workers, which could bolster support from Republicans from agricultural regions.

The overall bill would make it possible for young immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally to become citizens, finance President Donald Trump’s proposed border wall and impose other security requirements.

The measure has seemed likely to fail, which would embarrass Trump.

As if the internal GOP turmoil was not enough, the party’s political exposure on the issue has been intensified by heartbreaking images of migrant children separated from families and complicated by opaque statements by Trump.

https://www.thestar.com/amp/news/wo...licates-house-gop-efforts-on-immigration.html
 
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Hoid

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the republicans will not be able to pass anything comprehensive on immigration - just like they were unable to do so on healthcare.

not going to shppen

the best they will be able to do is a series of short term stop gap measures
 

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Jinonphonics says it's Trudeau's fault.
Poor Flosstard, can't deal with the fact his shiny pony is guilty of putting not only putting immigrant children in detention away from their parents, he's also doing it to Canadian born children of illegals. So he's gotta make shit up about what I said.
You really are a f*cking asshole. So basically, by your complete refusal to discuss this issue with any sort of objectivity or intelligence, you're essentially saying that you tacitly approve of what Trudeau is doing. You must, you haven't uttered a single word of faux outrage about it.

You must be so proud to see Trudeau ignore the human rights of children. Yeah, that weak-assed Trump loser caved but not Trudeau, no-siree. Nah, he even showed what a douchef*ck he and the rest of you child-hating losers are by whining about "what's going on the US is wrong". But I guess it's just right in Canada, eh you f*cking racist nazi piece of shit?

Tell these kids it's all Trumps fault they're being held in detention in Canada separate from their parents. Moron.
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anything that's big needs leadership and there is none right now.

nobody in Washington can cobble together the coalitions that are necessary to pass comprehensive legislation - unlike the tax cut - which was GOP dogma

as if to prove my point Trump tweets that the GOP should ignore immigration until after the midterms.

but really what would even more republicans in congress accomplish?

they already have majorities and the presidency and have no solution or even agreement between themselves.

the only thing they have all agreed on is tax cuts for the wealthy
 

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Poor Flosstard, can't deal with the fact his shiny pony is guilty of putting not only putting immigrant children in detention away from their parents, he's also doing it to Canadian born children of illegals. So he's gotta make shit up about what I said.
You really are a f*cking asshole. So basically, by your complete refusal to discuss this issue with any sort of objectivity or intelligence, you're essentially saying that you tacitly approve of what Trudeau is doing. You must, you haven't uttered a single word of faux outrage about it.

You must be so proud to see Trudeau ignore the human rights of children. Yeah, that weak-assed Trump loser caved but not Trudeau, no-siree. Nah, he even showed what a douchef*ck he and the rest of you child-hating losers are by whining about "what's going on the US is wrong". But I guess it's just right in Canada, eh you f*cking racist nazi piece of shit?

Tell these kids it's all Trumps fault they're being held in detention in Canada separate from their parents. Moron.
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Thank you for proving that Republicans are not shepple like Democrats.........

Nor do they understand much about American government, the US constitution, or how to get anything done through compromise.

That's because compromise is at the heart of how America's federal governmental system was designed. It was made so that if you won't compromise you won't get anything done. So far the Republicans have been unable to get anything done because they'll work with North Koreans and Russians, but not Democrats. That means in order to get any bills passed the Republicans have to do it entirely on their own, with zero Democratic support. The problem is there is no actual Republican party any more. That party, which used to stand for Small C fiscal conservatism and family values is gone. There is now a rump party calling itself Republican made up of adulterer lovingTrumpists and anarchists who want all government to be shut down permanently, and corporate owned 'republicans' who want only what's best for business and wall street. This uneasy alliance does not agree on much of anything other than cutting taxes to the bone, even if that runs the place deeper into debt.
 
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Democrats are Communists...which is why they won't work with TRUMP.
(They want a recession to destroy the american people so they can be conquered and enslaved, and neither trump nor the american people want that at all...)


Democrats are Communists
81% Say Yes...19% Say No
http://www.debate.org/opinions/are-democrats-communists

DEMOCRATS LAUNCH NEW SLOGAN THAT MIRRORS COMMUNIST CHINA’S
http://www.newsweek.com/democrats-slogan-communist-china-democracy-648752

After the commies took away everyone's guns, THEY killed a HUNDRED MILLION of them off...

There you have it.
 

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Nor do they understand much about American government, the US constitution, or how to get anything done through compromise.

That's because compromise is at the heart of how America's federal governmental system was designed. It was made so that if you won't compromise you won't get anything done. So far the Republicans have been unable to get anything done because they'll work with North Koreans and Russians, but not Democrats. That means in order to get any bills passed the Republicans have to do it entirely on their own, with zero Democratic support. The problem is there is no actual Republican party any more. That party, which used to stand for Small C fiscal conservatism and family values is gone. There is now a rump party calling itself Republican made up of adulterer lovingTrumpists and anarchists who want all government to be shut down permanently, and corporate owned 'republicans' who want only what's best for business and wall street. This uneasy alliance does not agree on much of anything other than cutting taxes to the bone, even if that runs the place deeper into debt.
Well & intelligently stated. ;-)
 

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Democrats are Communists...which is why they won't work with TRUMP.
(They want a recession to destroy the american people so they can be conquered and enslaved, and neither trump nor the american people want that at all...)


Democrats are Communists
81% Say Yes...19% Say No
Are Democrats communists? | Debate.org

DEMOCRATS LAUNCH NEW SLOGAN THAT MIRRORS COMMUNIST CHINA’S
Democrats Launch New Slogan That Mirrors Communist China

After the commies took away everyone's guns, THEY killed a HUNDRED MILLION of them off...

There you have it.
Democrats are Communists

THAT is STUPID and FAKE news. Totally perverse.

If the dems were communist........Trump would be loving them to bits. All one has to do is see the great fondness he has for PUTIN and Kim of NK..........

The issues with this immigration thing is that there is organisation, or common sense in the Trump regime. He flips on policy matters ........bending to whatever the media outcry is and then to his hardliners that bend his ear. Then for who knows what reason that riggers him........he goes on a Twitter Tirade and confuses the issue even more. Twitter is his bully pulpit. His followers are so far gone......... into that bizarre vortex / world of trump that it makes it a piece of cake for him to keep manipulating them.... They believe every lie he spins. Seems they need some father figure.......even a crazy one.

The chap has NO clue. and could lnot do a what if sceanrio to save his fat butt.
 
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Yeah, we know what kind of people you trumphaters are.

Democrats are Communists

THAT is STUPID and FAKE news. Totally perverse.

If the dems were communist........Trump would be loving them to bits. All one has to do is see the great fondness he has for PUTIN and Kim of NK..........

I see you didn't read the polls or watch the video, so how the hell would you know?

I also see you didn't prove its fake news as we always do when we say that about the stuff you post ...so we also see what you are all about there too.

Letter: Communists, socialists infiltrated Democratic Party

What has happened to the centrist Democrats? Where did the good old moderate Democrats of my fathe'rs day go? I'm talking about the party of yesterday that was for the people and the United States of America.

In 1944 the six-time Socialist party candidate for president said: "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened ... I no longer need to run as a presidential candidate for the socialist party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform."

Then came the 1960s. This is when the New Left got its beginning. Saul Alinsky, a friend of Hillary Clinton, stated that to change a society, one had to first infiltrate the major institutions, the school, the media, the churches, the entertainment industries, the labor unions and the three branches of government, and then they would have the power to implement policies.

The Democratic Party of today is far left and its top levels have been infiltrated by a vast number of socialists and communists.

In December 2009 former DNC chairman Howard Dean said that "cooperation between European Socialist and the Democratic party had Intensified significantly over the proceeding years." Howard Dean said that the socialists were making significant gains in the Democratic Party, and that was in 2009, when the extreme socialist Barack Obama was elected president.
https://www.courierpress.com/story/...ists-infiltrated-democratic-party/1087944001/

California Democrats Push Communist Holiday Over President’s Day
California Democrats Push Communist Holiday Over President

Cuban refugee warns Democrats against 'communist movement' hijacking the party
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/23/cuban-refugee-warns-democrats-communist-movement/

CNN, MSNBC look away as Trump hosts families of victims killed by illegal immigrants
https://www.rt.com/usa/430612-trump-angel-families-msm/
 

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Democrats are Communists

THAT is STUPID and FAKE news. Totally perverse.

Breeze. . .

"To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture."

-- Thomas Paine
 

Ocean Breeze

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Yeah, we know what kind of people you trumphaters are.

That is an uniformed generalisation. Nothing more.

It would be like saying that all Trump supporters are stupid and moronic. ..........You can't paint a gorp with one bush........

(the fact that they have been manipulated by a master con ........)

Or maybe they just admire cruelty and those that have the power to execute it.

These issues are not a party issue.......... they are a INHUMANITARIAN issue. Human rights factor in...

As stated before........why doesn't the trump tam deal with the countries leaders.........where these people are coming from?? the countries of origin are the problem.

After all if Trump can make some kind of deal with NK leader........what is stopping him from meeting with the leaders where these people are coming from. If things were not so ugly in their countries of origin........they would not be leaving in droves.

Breeze. . .

"To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture."

-- Thomas Paine
Indeed.........my bad. ;-) That is excellent ,, btw.
 
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Yeah, we know what kind of people you trumphaters are.



I see you didn't read the polls or watch the video, so how the hell would you know?

I also see you didn't prove its fake news as we always do when we say that about the stuff you post ...so we also see what you are all about there too.

Letter: Communists, socialists infiltrated Democratic Party

What has happened to the centrist Democrats? Where did the good old moderate Democrats of my fathe'rs day go? I'm talking about the party of yesterday that was for the people and the United States of America.

In 1944 the six-time Socialist party candidate for president said: "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened ... I no longer need to run as a presidential candidate for the socialist party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform."

Then came the 1960s. This is when the New Left got its beginning. Saul Alinsky, a friend of Hillary Clinton, stated that to change a society, one had to first infiltrate the major institutions, the school, the media, the churches, the entertainment industries, the labor unions and the three branches of government, and then they would have the power to implement policies.

The Democratic Party of today is far left and its top levels have been infiltrated by a vast number of socialists and communists.

In December 2009 former DNC chairman Howard Dean said that "cooperation between European Socialist and the Democratic party had Intensified significantly over the proceeding years." Howard Dean said that the socialists were making significant gains in the Democratic Party, and that was in 2009, when the extreme socialist Barack Obama was elected president.
https://www.courierpress.com/story/...ists-infiltrated-democratic-party/1087944001/

California Democrats Push Communist Holiday Over President’s Day
California Democrats Push Communist Holiday Over President

Cuban refugee warns Democrats against 'communist movement' hijacking the party
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/23/cuban-refugee-warns-democrats-communist-movement/

CNN, MSNBC look away as Trump hosts families of victims killed by illegal immigrants
https://www.rt.com/usa/430612-trump-angel-families-msm/




I doubt if you could have made a post that is more indicative of how little you know about the US political system. If the Democratic Party existed in Canada it would be about the same spot on the political spectrum as the Conservative Party. People like Hillary Clinton are only left wing by American standards.
 

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Democrats are Communists...which is why they won't work with TRUMP.


Oh drivel. It's the Republicans who will not, who can not work with Democrats. That's because every Republican legislator over the past several years who has attempted to do so winds up facing well-financed challengers during primary season by far right opponents accusing them of being traitors in being willing to compromise. The inability of Republicans to compromise, even when they want to, for fear of being outflanked on the right, is the chief reason nothing can get passed any more.
 

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Oh drivel. It's the Republicans who will not, who can not work with Democrats. That's because every Republican legislator over the past several years who has attempted to do so winds up facing well-financed challengers during primary season by far right opponents accusing them of being traitors in being willing to compromise. The inability of Republicans to compromise, even when they want to, for fear of being outflanked on the right, is the chief reason nothing can get passed any more.
Really . Spineless self serving politicians tell me it is not so.