Now confirmed that Trump is putting innocent children in cages

White_Unifier

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What? Are you not aware that a person on a student, work, or business visa still can't apply for social assistance? All I'm proposing is to cut the bureaucratic red tape and let them work visa-free. How would that suddenly give them a right to social assistance? It would just do exactly what I said it would do: let them work visa-free, nothing more, nothing less.
 

White_Unifier

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And Jinentonix, I don't think you're an idiot. I think I just don't understand where you're coming from, that's all.
 

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Hoid

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Frankly if this is what works then perhaps separate all children from all parents and guarantee everyone's good behavior.
 

Jinentonix

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And Jinentonix, I don't think you're an idiot. I think I just don't understand where you're coming from, that's all.
Buddy, I know exactly where I'm coming from. 42 years of studying the history of warfare, its causes and effects and the role propaganda plays, even when there's not a shooting war between opposing sides, puts me in a pretty good spot to read exactly what's going on. That and I refuse to jump at appeals to the emotional just because of the target.

So again, where's all the moral outrage about this happening in Canada and Australia? It's nowhere to be found because A) the leftoids can't blame Trump for it and B)Canada and Australia have supposedly liberal progressive govts so to avoid the personal internal conflict, if they're even capable of such depth, they avoid the subject altogether.
For people like Flossy it's clearly not about the children or human rights, it's just another excuse to bash Trump for the same shit Obama has done, that Trudeau is doing, Australia is doing, etc.
 

White_Unifier

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Frankly if this is what works then perhaps separate all children from all parents and guarantee everyone's good behavior.

I remember reading that one of the rationales for the Canadian Indian residential schools was that it helped to keep the parents in line desperate to see their children again.
 

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What? Are you not aware that a person on a student, work, or business visa still can't apply for social assistance? All I'm proposing is to cut the bureaucratic red tape and let them work visa-free. How would that suddenly give them a right to social assistance? It would just do exactly what I said it would do: let them work visa-free, nothing more, nothing less.

I know they are entitled to healthcare and social assistance on student visas because there was demonstrations in Winnipeg over removing them from foreign students.
 

White_Unifier

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Buddy, I know exactly where I'm coming from. 42 years of studying the history of warfare, its causes and effects and the role propaganda plays, even when there's not a shooting war between opposing sides, puts me in a pretty good spot to read exactly what's going on. That and I refuse to jump at appeals to the emotional just because of the target.

So again, where's all the moral outrage about this happening in Canada and Australia? It's nowhere to be found because A) the leftoids can't blame Trump for it and B)Canada and Australia have supposedly liberal progressive govts so to avoid the personal internal conflict, if they're even capable of such depth, they avoid the subject altogether.
For people like Flossy it's clearly not about the children or human rights, it's just another excuse to bash Trump for the same shit Obama has done, that Trudeau is doing, Australia is doing, etc.

The US policy was in the news recently and that was the topic of the thread, so I addressed that. But yes, you're right, how many people have died in CBSA detention in Canada for example. I've interacted with the CBSA in the past and I know others who have too and the real (even if not always but still too often legal) discretionary powers that the CBSA possesses is bloody scary.
 

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It seems to me that Trump was given no other choice. The system that has been in place releases captured families with a 'promise to appear' at an asylum or deportation hearing. Of course 80% never turn up. Meaning the entire system is a joke. The border is a joke. If there was a process that allowed for an orderly and summary deportation of entire families that have crossed the border illegally it would be done. But it is these parents who are putting their children in jeopardy by making dangerous cross desert runs, often transported by ruthless smuggling cartels.
 

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The Left doesn't care about the separation of children from illegal Mexican parents. But they do care about pretending to care, to score political points. They are the ones using the kids as pawns, not Trump.
 

mentalfloss

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How many times do you Trumptards need to be reminded that you are part of the left?

You can't endorse a douchebag that puts you ****ing trillions of dollars in debt and say you are on the right.

****ing idiots.
 

justlooking

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I remember reading that one of the rationales for the Canadian Indian residential schools was that it helped to keep the parents in line desperate to see their children again.


Hmmm. Didn't work.


The US policy was in the news recently and that


Only because Russia Russia Russia is going nowhere as usual.
The changes to 'zero tolerance' were implemented in April.
But only now the lefty media goes absolutely apeshit for it.


I wonder if any of the lefty libtards will ever figure how they are being manipulated by the MSM.


Somehow, I doubt it.













It seems to me that Trump was given no other choice. The system that has been in place releases captured families with a 'promise to appear' at an asylum or deportation hearing. Of course 80% never turn up. Meaning the entire system is a joke. The border is a joke. If there was a process that allowed for an orderly and summary deportation of entire families that have crossed the border illegally it would be done. But it is these parents who are putting their children in jeopardy by making dangerous cross desert runs, often transported by ruthless smuggling cartels.


Of course the whole border enforcement system has been a joke for decades now.





The Left doesn't care about the separation of children from illegal Mexican parents. But they do care about pretending to care, to score political points. They are the ones using the kids as pawns, not Trump.


Yup.
Notice Russia Russia Russia has dropped off the screen.
The lefties need some new bullcrap to hide from the IG report.