Macleans: Welcome to Third Place, Liberals

[Hoid]

Looking pretty orange to me.

Ford is obviously only going to lose support the more he talks - and he is going to have to do a lot of talking in the next little while.

 

[mentalfloss]

It's still a pretty daunting task to bring them below 40.

 

[Twin_Moose]

Best case scenario for the Libs is a minority PC Gov. nothing can get done and the Libs. can point at it and criticize

 

[petros]

Where are the Greens?

 

[mentalfloss]

4 or 5%

 

[Twin_Moose]

Wynne calls for police probe into PC nominations

Doug Ford must clear the air over questionable nominations of Progressive Conservative candidates by asking the Ontario Provincial Police to conduct a province-wide investigation in the wake of new revelations, says Liberal Leader Kathleen Wynne.
Wynne cited a Globe and Mail report on Saturday that raises “deeply troubling questions about the widespread use” of customer data stolen from the company that operates Highway 407 and alleges supporters in nomination races were bused from one city to another or used fake identities.
The story also alleges Conservative operative Snover Dhillon was a driving force behind several nominations where irregularities occurred, including use of fake identities.
Dhillon declined comment to the Globe and could not immediately be reached Saturday, but said earlier this week he knew nothing of the data incident that 407 ETR has referred to as a case of “internal theft.”
“Doug Ford asserted yesterday that these concerns were limited in scope to one riding only,” Wynne said, referring to the resignation of Brampton East PC candidate Simmer Sandhu, a former employee of 407 ETR.
The data breach at the company is now being investigated by York Regional Police. Sandu has said any suggestions that he took data were “totally baseless.”
“At least seven nominated Conservative candidates are implicated according to these media reports and a cloud of suspicion hangs over many others,” the Liberal leader added in a statement.
Wynne remains a distant third in public opinion polls to frontrunner Ford with less than three weeks to go before the June 7 election.
Asked about Dhillon in London on Friday, Ford responded: “Who? I don’t know any snow guy, or snowbird, or whatever you call him.”
Speaking in Muskoka on Saturday, Ford repeated that he doesn’t know Dhillon, who he described as a “pal of Patrick Brown,” the PC leader ousted in January over sexual misconduct allegations that Brown denies.
“I was elected to be leader of this party 71 days ago...to command and clean up a mess that I’ve cleaned up,” he told reporters.
“You keep mentioning this Snover guy...I don’t know this guy from a hole in the ground.”
Wynne accused Ford of trying to sweep questionable nominations under the carpet and also called on him to “fire” candidates who used Dhillon’s services in seeking their nominations.
“In February, Mr. Ford said he knew of 30 to 40 ridings where he was aware of ‘scandalous’ practices. Yet he never acted,” Wynne said, raising the possibility that names, addresses and phone numbers of 60,000 Highway 407 drivers are being used by PCs to reach voters in the election.
“Those who aspire to lead our province have an obligation to put the integrity of our electoral process ahead of partisan gain, political ambition or, indeed, any other consideration.”
The Conservatives have called foul on a handful of nomination races and held new votes, including in Hamilton West-Ancaster-Dundas, where Hamilton police have been conducting a fraud investigation.
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Ford should release the “full results” of all internal party investigations into nomination practices, and disclose all party ties to Dhillon.

 

[Yo0]

On the eve of the official kick-off of the Ontario provincial election, Kathleen Wynne’s governing Liberals have fallen to third place and the second-place NDP has considerable room to grow, according to a shocking new poll.

The online poll of 1,010 eligible voters, conducted on May 3 and 4 for Maclean’s by Pollara Strategic Insights, shows that support for the Liberals has declined since other recent public polls. Among decided voters, the Progressive Conservatives led by Doug Ford enjoy a strong lead with 40 per cent support. The NDP led by Andrea Horwath is in second place with 30 per cent. That leaves Wynne’s Liberals way back with 23 per cent.

The campaign is moving into a more intense and unpredictable phase. The first televised leaders’ debate is Monday night on CITY, followed by the dissolution of the legislature and the formal campaign launch on Wednesday. “This campaign’s going to matter,” Don Guy, the owner and chief strategy officer of Pollara, told Maclean’s. But his results show further room for the Liberals to fall and for the NDP to climb. Strong support as respondents’ second choice suggests Horwath’s NDP “has a lot of room to grow,” Guy said, whereas Wynne and the Liberals “aren’t even close to bottom yet.”

Asked their second choice for party preference, 33 per cent named the NDP. The provincial Green party, led by Mike Schreiner, was second with 16 per cent naming it as their second choice. The Liberals and Progressive Conservatives were each mentioned by only 11 per cent. Second-choice support often doesn’t translate into votes, but it’s considered a good way to see which parties might gain support if at some point voters become disillusioned by the party they originally supported.

The Maclean's-Pollara Ontario Election Poll: Welcome to third place, Liberals - Macleans.ca

To apologize!

:canada:

 

[Hoid]

The Liberals and the Conservatives are old and tired and useless.

The Orange/green wave baby.

 

[mentalfloss]

They're almost tied now.

 

[OpposingDigit]

If the tide does turn and the polls begin to suggest an NDP government ..... the media is going to begin working overtime to cripple the campaign. The Economic Terrorists on Bay Street will pop up with dreary and frightful forecasts of doom and gloom.

 

[pgs]

If the tide does turn and the polls begin to suggest an NDP government ..... the media is going to begin working overtime to cripple the campaign. The Economic Terrorists on Bay Street will pop up with dreary and frightful forecasts of doom and gloom.

Well good luck , you to can be like Alberta and B.C. Higher taxes , less economic activity , and slow or non existent growth .

 

[Yo0]

Conservative Party alert in Canada.

 

[petros]

Well good luck , you to can be like Alberta and B.C. Higher taxes , less economic activity , and slow or non existent growth .

Dutch Elm Disease

 

[OpposingDigit]

Hi! PGS

What I think about when I read your comment is that the Economic Terrorists will hold the voters hostage if votes don't go their way. Either vote to continue giving the Economic Terrorists a 25% share of all government spending or they will destroy the country, just like what they are presently doing in Venezuela and in countless countries who demanded social programs and no more wars around the globe.

The Economic Terrorists don't want any monies being paid directly to an individual citizen without it first passing through a corporation which allows them to grab a 25% management fee.

 

[Yo0]

All Venezuela will to be Socialism again ??

 

[Durry]

“Economic Terrorists”, what stupidity, can’t express himself so he makes up stupid statements

 

[mentalfloss]

Dutch Elm Disease

So the US can't blame NAFTA then.

Well good luck , you to can be like Alberta and B.C. Higher taxes , less economic activity , and slow or non existent growth .

The NDP are communists derp derp derp.

Dutch Elm Disease

Also, 'employment share' doesn't mean the sector is doing poorly.

Even your nurse could figure that out.

 

[petros]

Oh really? What does it mean then?

 

[OpposingDigit]

Hi! Durry

I call the Bay Street cabal "Economic Terrorists" because of the tactics they use.

When things don't go their way, they repeatedly threaten a whole community of families with the possibility of moving to Mexico or the like. They "Terrorize" a workforce who attempt to form a union. The "Terrorize" voters with threats and intimidation.

 

[Johnnny]

Hi! Durry

I call the Bay Street cabal "Economic Terrorists" because of the tactics they use.

When things don't go their way, they repeatedly threaten a whole community of families with the possibility of moving to Mexico or the like. They "Terrorize" a workforce who attempt to form a union. The "Terrorize" voters with threats and intimidation.

Sounds normal nowadays especially if you consider the average worker in Canada faces that. I'm not talking about being moved out of the country