Insurance company uncovers 'pervasive' auto body shop scams in Ontario, urges action

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Insurance company uncovers 'pervasive' auto body shop scams in Ontario, urges action

Workers at auto body shops deliberately damaged cars, installed used parts but billed for new ones, or invoiced for phantom repairs, according to an investigation by a Canadian insurer that is calling on the government to help in curbing the problem.

Aviva Canada found about half the total expenses submitted for repairs to crashed vehicles during its investigation in Ontario were bogus — an amount the company estimates adds up to hundreds of millions of dollars a year.

"Nobody has ever really sampled the extent of fraud with any kind of accuracy," Gordon Rasbach, Aviva Canada's vice president of fraud management, said in an interview. "This is the first time in Canada that we're aware of that anyone has actually taken a sample, albeit a small one, at random, and used actual cases in progress to put some kind of numbers on it."

Investigators posed as drivers

In its investigation — results are to be released on Monday — Aviva attempted to simulate typical fender-bender situations involving private passenger cars by deliberately crashing 10 vehicles.

The company had experts detail the damage and estimate repair costs, then kitted out the cars with hidden cameras and, at various times last year, put them on highways in the Toronto area.

Investigators posed as hapless drivers just having gone through their first crash.

Rasbach said he was surprised only one repair outfit acted honestly. The other nine cases showed some degree of "clear cut" fraud, he said. While Aviva's experts had estimated total damage for the 10 vehicles at about $30,000, the repair shops invoiced Aviva for about $61,000, the company says.

Among other things Aviva says occurred were tow-truck drivers who billed for towing and storage that didn't happen, drivers who were asked to sign blank work orders, cars maliciously damaged at body shops, and shenanigans over repaired or replaced parts.

"The video footage and clear evidence of fraudulent invoicing shows just how pervasive the problem of fraud is," Rasbach said.

"Honest consumers are the ones that are paying for it."

More needs to be done, says company

Insurance fraud eats into the bottom lines of companies like Aviva.

Industry estimates suggest between five and 15 per cent of premiums drivers pay for car insurance go toward covering undetected fraudulent claims. Aviva, whose own tactics in fighting legitimate claims have come under fire by the courts, says more has to be done to combat fraud. Among other things, it wants governments to force insurance companies to report and share information when fraud is identified.

Insurance company uncovers 'pervasive' auto body shop scams in Ontario, urges action - Toronto - CBC News
 

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Here is the fact: once someone has paid their deductible wtf do they care how much it costs?
 

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Insurance company uncovers 'pervasive' auto body shop scams in Ontario, urges action

Workers at auto body shops deliberately damaged cars, installed used parts but billed for new ones, or invoiced for phantom repairs, according to an investigation by a Canadian insurer that is calling on the government to help in curbing the problem.

Aviva Canada found about half the total expenses submitted for repairs to crashed vehicles during its investigation in Ontario were bogus — an amount the company estimates adds up to hundreds of millions of dollars a year.

"Nobody has ever really sampled the extent of fraud with any kind of accuracy," Gordon Rasbach, Aviva Canada's vice president of fraud management, said in an interview. "This is the first time in Canada that we're aware of that anyone has actually taken a sample, albeit a small one, at random, and used actual cases in progress to put some kind of numbers on it."

Investigators posed as drivers

In its investigation — results are to be released on Monday — Aviva attempted to simulate typical fender-bender situations involving private passenger cars by deliberately crashing 10 vehicles.

The company had experts detail the damage and estimate repair costs, then kitted out the cars with hidden cameras and, at various times last year, put them on highways in the Toronto area.

Investigators posed as hapless drivers just having gone through their first crash.

Rasbach said he was surprised only one repair outfit acted honestly. The other nine cases showed some degree of "clear cut" fraud, he said. While Aviva's experts had estimated total damage for the 10 vehicles at about $30,000, the repair shops invoiced Aviva for about $61,000, the company says.

Among other things Aviva says occurred were tow-truck drivers who billed for towing and storage that didn't happen, drivers who were asked to sign blank work orders, cars maliciously damaged at body shops, and shenanigans over repaired or replaced parts.

"The video footage and clear evidence of fraudulent invoicing shows just how pervasive the problem of fraud is," Rasbach said.

"Honest consumers are the ones that are paying for it."

More needs to be done, says company

Insurance fraud eats into the bottom lines of companies like Aviva.

Industry estimates suggest between five and 15 per cent of premiums drivers pay for car insurance go toward covering undetected fraudulent claims. Aviva, whose own tactics in fighting legitimate claims have come under fire by the courts, says more has to be done to combat fraud. Among other things, it wants governments to force insurance companies to report and share information when fraud is identified.

Insurance company uncovers 'pervasive' auto body shop scams in Ontario, urges action - Toronto - CBC News

This is nothing new. I do find it laughable that the Insurance company who are essential crooked pricks to begin with are trying to sound like the good guys.
 

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Insurance companies
Lawyers
Politicians
Teachers
Police officers.

These are just a few professions that people commonly make unfairly negative associations with.

If you step outside of that mindset for a second, you shouldn't be surprised that there are plenty of good people in all of those categories.
 

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Insurance companies
Lawyers
Politicians
Teachers
Police officers.

These are just a few professions that people commonly make unfairly negative associations with.

If you step outside of that mindset for a second, you shouldn't be surprised that there are plenty of good people in all of those categories.

Sure there are, but Ontario has been crooked on insurance for decades.
 

taxslave

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Here is the fact: once someone has paid their deductible wtf do they care how much it costs?

That is exactly the problem.

This is nothing new. I do find it laughable that the Insurance company who are essential crooked pricks to begin with are trying to sound like the good guys.

But it is cutting into insurance company profits and we know they don't like to share.
 

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Taxslave is a Trumpite, what do you expect.

The real problem is that the insurance companies aren't really on the hook for the fraudulent charges. They just pass on that cost through higher premiums. Once in a while, one will pull a publicly stunt like this to try and show us they care.

We should send some farmers in to deal with those thieving Auto body shops
 

Danbones

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Yes, and some of them are very good investments because we know HOW they are crooked.
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Jeez...bet on the crooked that runs things...Eh?