If Trudeau won’t answer the questions in question period, what’s the bloody point?

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John Ivison: If Trudeau won’t answer the questions in question period, what’s the bloody point?

If Trudeau’s pioneering use of non-sequitur politics takes hold in the House, frustrated taxpayers are going to demand someone provides adult supervision









OTTAWA — There was an exchange during question period on Wednesday that marked a new low in the House of Commons’ descent into disrepute — and I say that advisedly, having watched this gong show at close quarters over the past 15 years.
Pierre Poilievre, the Conservative finance critic, who you might have imagined would want to talk about a federal budget that was hot off the presses, asked Justin Trudeau about his trip to India and the apparent contradiction of him blaming his own backbencher and the Indian government for the invitation of a convicted terrorist to an official event.
The Prime Minister responded by ignoring the question entirely and trumpeting the benefits of the budget “for the middle class and those working hard to join it.”
The Conservatives urged the Speaker to enforce the relevancy rule, on the basis that Trudeau had also ignored the long-standing custom of the House to at least provide an unsatisfactory non-answer on the same topic as the question.
But, as Speaker Geoff Regan pointed out, no such relevancy rule exists and the quality of the answers is up to ministers. “Members ought to understand that the Speaker is not empowered to comment on any of those things,” he said.
In which case – what is the bloody point?
Taxpayers spend more than $500 million a year so that the opposition parties can ask inane questions, designed to embarrass the government. The ruling party has now resolved to discount those questions entirely and use the opportunity to tout how brilliant it is at being the government.
It’s an outrage and, in an ideal world, we would all withhold our tax dollars until those idiots got their act together.
Question period is, in theory, the opportunity for the legislative branch to seek information from the executive and hold the government to account. Nobody really believes that, probably not even Trudeau himself when he pledged in his 2015 election platform to reform question period to hold the government, and the Prime Minister, to greater account.
The Liberals introduced a Prime Minister’s question period “to improve that direct level of accountability.”
Speaker Geoff Regan Adrian Wyld//The Canadian Press But it was during the new and improved prime minister’s questions that Trudeau unveiled his latest example of openness and transparency — an answer to the question he preferred had been asked, rather than the one that was.
We came close to this nadir under the Conservatives. Paul Calandra, Stephen Harper’s parliamentary secretary, was forced to issue a teary apology after answering questions from the NDP on Canada’s mission in Iraq with a non-sequitur attack on the NDP position on Israel. It was awful and embarrassing. But Calandra was not prime minister.
In their election platform, the Liberals pledged to empower the Speaker to challenge and sanction members. But there has been scant evidence of Regan imposing himself on proceedings in the House. He has been clear in his public utterances and letters to Canadians that he sees his role as being “limited to ensuring the adherence to the body of rules, conventions and traditions to which members of the House of Commons themselves have agreed.”
In a letter to one taxpayer, he pointed out there are no explicit rules or conventions that oblige ministers to respond to questions addressed to them during question period, and that the Speaker is not responsible for the content of replies.
That is true, and is consistent, not only with the rulings of speakers going back decades, but with Westminster style parliaments in countries like New Zealand, South Africa and the United Kingdom.
For the Speaker to deviate from that convention would require agreement in the House, probably stemming from a review of the rules by the Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.
But it seems to me we are veering into dangerous new territory when questions are ignored completely.



Back in the 1960s, the House approved content guidelines that do require that answers are brief, do not provoke debate and, crucially, deal with the matter raised.
Speakers do have discretion and authority — they can rule questions out of order or interrupt members for using unparliamentary language.
When Andrew Scheer was Speaker, he said he would rule questions out of order if they did not establish a direct link with the administrative responsibilities of the government (there had been a rash of opposition MPs using lengthy preambles to criticize the government). If the Speaker can regulate questions, why not answers?
Regan would be well within his rights to intervene and insist that answers must deal with the matter raised in the question.
Rob Walsh, the House’s former law clerk, urges caution, pointing out that the current system has in-built political accountability. “The government has to rise and respond in some manner or face the political consequences,” he said. He suggested that giving the Speaker the right to vet questions and answers would soon descend into partisan debate.
Maybe so. But if Trudeau’s pioneering use of non-sequitur politics takes hold in the House, frustrated taxpayers are going to demand that someone provides adult supervision to the unruly urchins. That someone should be the Speaker.


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Simple solution, when he doesn't answer the question he is asked, the next person asks the same damn question. Shit-for-brains will run out of non-sequiturs at some point.
He does the same with his idiotic "town halls" that some in here crow about. Saw video of a veteran asking Trudeau why he's letting ISIS members back into the country and what assurances he's made for the public's safety. Trudeau then went on a five minute virtue signaling fap about refugees, as if returning ISIS are merely refugees.
 

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John Ivison: If Trudeau won’t answer the questions in question period, what’s the bloody point?

:lol:
You should try watching PMQs in the UK Parliament.
Prime Minister's Questions.
The Art of the Dodge taken to unbelievable heights.
Far, far better than Tater Tot could ever hope to aspire to.
Usually Wednesdays, 12:00 UK time

I dunno, it's so obvious the India trip was just a family vacation, with some
Lieberal fund raising dinners thrown in, along with the usual dancing idiocy.
Will anyone be able to force Dopey to pay for the trip from his own pocket ? Doubtful.
Or stop the nonsense of having events with 'these' Indians, and not 'those' Indians ? Doubtful
Any chance to actually force some accountability in the House ? Never.

Save it for the election. Remind anyone you know who voted Liberal that they should be extremely ashamed of themselves
for supporting this utter travesty of a politician.
 

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Liberals block Tory effort to call national security adviser to testify on Atwal

OTTAWA - Liberal MPs have thwarted a bid by Conservatives to force Justin Trudeau's national security adviser to explain his assertion that rogue elements in the Indian government sabotaged the prime minister's trip to India last week.
The Liberals used their majority on the Commons' national security committee Thursday to block a Conservative motion asking that Daniel Jean be summoned to testify about his theory that factions in India were behind the furor over Jaspal Atwal, a convicted attempted assassin and one-time Sikh separatist extremist who wound up on the guest list for two events with Trudeau during the India tour.
Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale, who was at the committee to discuss his department's spending estimates, also declined to discuss Jean's theory, telling Conservative MPs they were veering into classified territory that he's not at liberty to discuss.
He advised them to take their motion to the national security and intelligence committee of parliamentarians, a vehicle specifically created by the Trudeau government to allow MPs to probe classified matters.
However, that would guarantee Jean's explanation would never see the light of day. Members of that committee must obtain security clearance and swear an oath that they will maintain for the rest of their lives the confidentiality of the information they receive.
Following his committee appearance Thursday, Goodale was pressed to explain why Jean was able to brief reporters last week but can't do the same for MPs.
"MPs have a responsibility to pursue the whole issue and, in order for them to be able to do that, they need access to the full scope of classified information," he said.
It was during the media briefing that Jean suggested Atwal's presence during Trudeau's trip was arranged by factions within the Indian government who want to prevent Prime Minister Narendra Modi from getting too cosy with a foreign government they believe is not committed to a united India.
Goodale refused to specifically discuss Jean, who was outed as the source of the briefing by the Conservatives, but repeatedly said he trusts the advice of non-partisan, professional public servants, whom he said are "motivated by one thing only and that is serving the public interest of Canada." That's especially true, he said, of a public servant "from a diplomatic background and from a background that involves national security and public safety" — which would describe Jean.
Atwal — a B.C. Sikh convicted of trying to kill an Indian cabinet minister in 1986 — attended a reception in Mumbai, where he was photographed with Trudeau's wife. An invitation to a later reception in New Delhi was rescinded as soon as news broke that Atwal was on the guest list.
B.C. Liberal MP Randeep Sarai has taken responsibility and apologized for issuing the invitation to Atwal and Trudeau has accepted his resignation as chair of the Liberals' Pacific caucus.
Goodale was pressed to explain how both Sarai and rogue factions in the Indian government can be simultaneously held responsible for the Atwal fiasco. He pointed to a newspaper column that cited an anonymous security official who noted it was the Indian government that took Atwal off its blacklist for entering the country, which set the stage for Sarai — out of ignorance, or naivete, or both — to issue the invitation.
As he made his way to the elevator following his committee appearance, being peppered with questions from reporters along the way, Goodale encountered Sarai, who pushed through the throng of reporters and ended up getting on the same elevator. Asked if he'd been working with rogue factions in India to undermine Trudeau's trip, Sarai said tersely: "No."
Trudeau, in Montreal to promote his government's federal budget, also continued to face questions about the affair Thursday. And even as he appeared to lay the blame for the matter squarely at the feet of Sarai, he too continued to lend credence to the theory put forward in Jean's briefing.
"The individual in question never should have received an invitation, and the member of Parliament responsible for extending that invitation has taken responsibility and apologized for it," Trudeau said.
"On top of that, I continue to trust and support our national security agencies and officials, and when they highlight that there are concerns around a particular issue, I trust them and I believe them."
The Indian external affairs ministry has rejected Jean's theory as "baseless and unacceptable." But a leading Sikh politician in India, whose party is allied with Modi's party, has echoed the assertion that the elements in the Indian government worked to undermine Trudeau's trip.
 

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Oh this is just precious, now the Trudope govt is engaging in conspiracy theories. :lol: :lol:

"It's a matter of national security". Stop it, stop it, my sides are killing me. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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Oh this is just precious, now the Trudope govt is engaging in conspiracy theories. :lol: :lol:

"It's a matter of national security". Stop it, stop it, my sides are killing me. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Unfortunately, there's a lot on the line and by this moron throwing accusations the Indian Government, Trudeau has likely irreparably damaged Indian-Canadian relations, and therefore... a 1.1 billion dollar export industry. Not only was his "trade mission" an utter failure, a laughing stock, and a political disaster, but it undoubtedly took us further from the intended goal instead of closer. A lot of Canadian farmers aren't laughing.

Prairie farmers want Canada's trade dispute with India 'straightened out'
 

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Simple solution, when he doesn't answer the question he is asked, the next person asks the same damn question. Shit-for-brains will run out of non-sequiturs at some point.
He does the same with his idiotic "town halls" that some in here crow about. Saw video of a veteran asking Trudeau why he's letting ISIS members back into the country and what assurances he's made for the public's safety. Trudeau then went on a five minute virtue signaling fap about refugees, as if returning ISIS are merely refugees.
He will continue to use his stock answer , I am working hard fleecing middle class Canadians and those working to join them .
 

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Pulse crop tariff now raised to 60% diplomacy at it's best lol

Trudeau diplomacy...make a complete and total fool of yourself, insult your host (who didn't invite you or doesn't even want you there in the first place), embarrass your own country, bring an assassin to dinner, then accuse the potential trade partner with whom you are trying to build relations of a ridiculous conspiracy to damage your reputation without a shred of evidence. Monty Python couldn't script such a ridiculous display.
 

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Trudeau diplomacy...make a complete and total fool of yourself, insult your host (who didn't invite you or doesn't even want you there in the first place), embarrass your own country, bring an assassin to dinner, then accuse the potential trade partner with whom you are trying to build relations of a ridiculous conspiracy to damage your reputation without a shred of evidence. Monty Python couldn't script such a ridiculous display.

My you have a wonderful way with words - well put, Dec.
 

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Lol Trudeau invents political double talk?

Righties getting desperate
 

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Question period's been a joke for many years already, but Trudeau has done nothing to improve on it.
 

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The only desperation I've seen has been coming from the PMO to try and pin this on anyone but themselve's.

They are running out of room under the bus that JT is throwing all of these people.

I wonder if the public at large is saving one last space under that bus for JT come election time

Question period's been a joke for many years already, but Trudeau has done nothing to improve on it.

Double-speak is one thing, but providing a response that is entirely unrelated and different subject matter all together is a new low
 

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I'd wager it's a coin toss on that one. Mr. Trudeau has displayed a propensity for challenging any negative public perception by doubling-down on things

Funny. . . President Drunkuncle does the same thing! Maybe Justy is his love child!

Where exactly was Mags in March/April of '71? Spend any time in New York, maybe?