Arctic will likely never return to former frigid days, says climate change report

Danbones

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I flew over the geographic north pole in about 1992 - and I know that there is nobody else here that has ever done that.


You slept at a holiday inn last night did yah?
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so how come you are still wrong?
 

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It's worse than we ever imagined Walter... An ice free North pole since 1905.

.... We all must think of the children

The USS Skate broke through the Pole ice from underneath for the first time in August 1962. I guess that they don't get your oil industry memos.
 

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So the Earth must be cooling cuz there was open water there many times before 1992.
Who would you listen to? 85 climate researchers from 12 different countries or an ignorant old man on the internet who never graduated from high school?

Walter you an idiot and you only avoid my ignore list because you post short, stupid comments that don't waste my time very much.
 

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Reversal not impossible, but unlikely

Chris Derksen, a research scientist for Environment and Climate Change Canada, said though it is unlikely to reverse the effects of climate change in the Arctic, it is not impossible. He said because the rate of warming is tied to increased greenhouse gas emissions, a decrease in emissions could reverse climate changes.
"It would take a sustained and long-lasting effort to limit greenhouse gas emissions before we would see temperatures in the Arctic return to traditional levels we've seen in the past," he said.
The Government of the Northwest Territories' Department of Environment and Natural Resources has developed a draft Climate Change Strategic Framework to deal with climate change in the territory.


When the mammoths froze instantly one summer day in Siberia some ashole in a climate research project said it would never get warm again in the arctic.
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I believe the Earth to be more resilient than we know. I am hopeful the damage we have done and continue to do to it will eventually heal.
 

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I believe the Earth to be more resilient than we know. I am hopeful the damage we have done and continue to do to it will eventually heal.

The Earth "adjusts" the state of the Biosphere by letting species "go" that can't adjust to the conditions of the moment. That might very well be us but, hey. The Earth will come out of it just fine ... a bit different but fine. We might adjust it a lot if we leave great patches of dead, burnt, radioactive Biosphere behind us (still a very real possibility ...one faulty chip ...). Large vertebrates, mammals might be done for a time but something will replace them (us) and balance it all over.
 

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Secret History of Twin Planet Earth by Errol Hawkins-----------second edition Just started reading it a few days ago, makes a very sound case for revision of geological history. It also convincingly makes the present worries about climate change piddling and insignificant when past proven geological changes moved continents and one pole, north, was permanent facing deep space and the northern hemisphere was dark always.
 

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You need some solid research if you want to revise geologic history.

Or a link from Walter
 

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Who would you listen to? 85 climate researchers from 12 different countries or an ignorant old man on the internet who never graduated from high school?

Walter you an idiot and you only avoid my ignore list because you post short, stupid comments that don't waste my time very much.
Best laugh today. History starts tomorrow for you lefties.
 

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lol not if man/maid glowball warming takes out all the snowflakes
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It seems to me that the fear mongering of the AGW cult are increasingly desperate and hollow. It's hard to stifle a yawn. None of their predictions have EVER been realized. And as their models and predictive charts fall apart they are left to chant their dark prognostications to a few lunatics, dancing under the full moon on the winter solstice.
 

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The point and purpose of this massive global exercise in climate deception has it,s genesis in the Club of Rome and its first warnings of population explosion. This is not the first time that known destructive climate change has been purposefully kept from general circulation but it might yet be the most destructive in terms of mass death by starvation. The grip on the worlds wealth and power demands that population reduction not because the earth itself is in anyway threatened but that the permanent power structure remains unfettered by the lower orders.
 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_Earth's_atmosphere

What the deniers fail to notice, is that there are facts in a debate.

One fact is that human made global warming is true. This is not debated in the scientific community. It is only debated among the people who Global warming belief can hurt (mainly oil, coal).

With the end of net neutrality these corporations will have even more power to only show you what they want you to believe.

Learn the basics of physical and evolutionary science, along with ancient history. Then you will be able to better find the truth in an endless sea of lies.
 
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Scientists predicted in 2000 that kids would grow up without snow. It was 17 years ago now when UK climate scientists argued that global warming would make snowfall a “a very rare and exciting event”.

“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” Dr. David Viner, a scientist with the climatic research unit at the University of East Anglia, told The Independent in 2000.

In 2013, the UK’s climate authority predicted that winter 2014 would be drier than usual, with only a 15 percent chance of being wet. They were very wrong.

December 2017:


This photograph of a robin redbreast was taken by Darren Moston in Warrington, Cheshire


Dan Smith took this photograph of his dog Maddie "loving the recent snow" in Malvern, Worcestershire


This photograph was taken by Alan Moran in Dedham, Essex


Tim Turan took this photograph while walking his dog in Brasenose Woods in Oxfordshire


This photograph was taken by Chris Wheatley at Kew Gardens, London


Jay Mason-Burns took this photograph in Shenley Green, Birmingham

England's Big Picture: 11 - 17 December - BBC News
 
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I grew up in a snowy place (not the UK). I live in a less snowy place. Both get a lot less snow than we did fifty years ago. We're having a white Christmas, this year but they are few and far between, now. We've even had a green winter a few years ago. I shovelled the driveway only once, last year. The trend is that we are getting less snow, every year.
 

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I grew up in a snowy place (not the UK). I live in a less snowy place. Both get a lot less snow than we did fifty years ago. We're having a white Christmas, this year but they are few and far between, now. We've even had a green winter a few years ago. I shovelled the driveway only once, last year. The trend is that we are getting less snow, every year.

It's probably getting too cold to snow.
 

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It's probably getting too cold to snow.

Unh-hunh.

Actually, I've seen a global warming model that shows Britain and Scandinavia getting cooler. As the Mediterranean basin gets hotter and drier (which is happening), the outflow from Gibraltar into the Atlantic is denser, more saline and the Gulf Stream is deflected more to the West. Warming waters that used to hit Northwest Europe will hit Greenland, eventually, dramatically accelerating the thawing of the ice cap, there (maybe, already happening).

p.s Did we really fish out the Atlantic Cod or did they pull up stakes and move to colder waters?
 

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Unh-hunh.

Actually, I've seen a global warming model that shows Britain and Scandinavia getting cooler. As the Mediterranean basin gets hotter and drier (which is happening), the outflow from Gibraltar into the Atlantic is denser, more saline and the Gulf Stream is deflected more to the West. Warned waters that used to hit Northwest Europe will hit Greenland, eventually, dramatically accelerating the thawing of the ice cap, there (maybe, already happening).

p.s Did we really fish out the Atlantic Cod or did they pull up stakes and move to colder waters?

Rubbish. The whole world is naturally cooling.