France banning all fossil fueled cars in a decade

Jinentonix

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Fossil fuels get subsidies.

If you were a true conservative, you would support dropping those.
Fossil fuels get subsidies because they are useful for more than just power generation. There's no byproducts from wind and solar power. You can't make steel out of them. You can't make consumer goods with them. Oil has a SHIT-TON of byproducts that are used every single day, even by you.
Besides being an unreliable energy source, what does wind power produce that fossil fuels can't? Oh, and by the way? Your precious wind turbines require about 900L of oil each in order to operate. So even your "Ontario-saving" wind turbines need oil or else they'll be even more useless than they already are. :lol:

Vive "le" Frogs.

They're masculine.



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Vive "les" Frogs. There's more than one of them.

Actually, it's kind of sad that the work some university students in Britain wasn't continued. Sometime in the late '80s-early '90s they took a standard factory vehicle, did a little tweaking that any decent mechanic should be able to perform and road tested it. They put one gallon of gas into the tank, took it for a real-life road test and got just over 100 mpg.
 

taxslave

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Poor petros.

Poor, poor, always wrong petros.





Even a 3rd grader would understand this, but since you need to be spoonfed...

To recap our story so far: manufacturing an electric car’s battery belches out a bunch of CO2 at the beginning.

That’s because producing both a car and its fuel ultimately contribute far less to its CO2 emissions than the actual driving.

https://thecorrespondent.com/7056/w...-they-could-get-greener/741917761200-afaa6e5d
You should have read your C&P. The author makes a lot of dubious assumptions. Also based in a country the size of a medium city with no hills.
 

TenPenny

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Actually, it's kind of sad that the work some university students in Britain wasn't continued. Sometime in the late '80s-early '90s they took a standard factory vehicle, did a little tweaking that any decent mechanic should be able to perform and road tested it. They put one gallon of gas into the tank, took it for a real-life road test and got just over 100 mpg.



No they didn't.
 

Hoid

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The internal combustion engine is a 19th century invention. It is ridiculous that we are still using it in the 21st century but we are are saddled with it.
 

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You should have read your C&P. The author makes a lot of dubious assumptions. Also based in a country the size of a medium city with no hills.

.... And there's the rub.

The author's of the various pro-electric auto lobby are careful not to describe the number of passengers, the ambient outside temperature, cargo capacity, average speed or differential elevation(s) in their analysis (among many other factors).

Interestingly enough, the literature naturally assumes that a consistent and plentiful source of electricity will always be 'on demand' and won't have any impacts on the base-load requirements for a municipality.... Hell, we haven't even scratched the surface on the infrastructure issue either
 

Hoid

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The end of oil is in sight. Something that would at one time be inconceivable will now be happening in a few years. If it's lamentable (and it isn't) it is not debatable.

The end game here is how much of this resource can the greed heads sell before its over?
 

pgs

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The end of oil is in sight. Something that would at one time be inconceivable will now be happening in a few years. If it's lamentable (and it isn't) it is not debatable.

The end game here is how much of this resource can the greed heads sell before its over?
Funny thing that every year there are more and more gasoline automobiles on our roads . Can you please square that circle ?
 

Hoid

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Funny thing that every year there are more and more gasoline automobiles on our roads . Can you please square that circle ?

Its almost as if there were more people being born every year.

Its over for gas. This is the decline. You can't say they haven't had a good run.
 

MHz

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Gas is a certain 5 of a barrel of oil. You cannot distill oil without getting gas so the reduction in gas also means a reduction in oil being processed and that would make for a longer list of things that are on the chopping block.
 

MHz

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We don't have to run out of oil, they just have to cut back on the oil that is refined, just like last time only there won't be a cure.
 

Twin_Moose

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The end of oil is in sight. Something that would at one time be inconceivable will now be happening in a few years. If it's lamentable (and it isn't) it is not debatable.

The end game here is how much of this resource can the greed heads sell before its over?

What makes you think Oil has run it's course? In my opinion Oil will be here as long as there is no other cheap sources of reliable energy.

P.S. Electric isn't the cheap source of reliable energy to replace Oil.
 

MHz

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It is a ploy from big oil to keep the population in a panic about energy when oil is in a glut mode and will be for a long time to come.