Conservatives want to ban protests outside abortion clinics

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God does hate fags. Plenty of studies have shown that smoking tobacco kills, and God teaches that the body is the temple of man. So we should respect our bodies and not smoke fags.
 

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Let it out how much the dead babies are sold for and they just have rewrite what is on their protest boards.

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In the Market for Fetal Body Parts, a Baby’s Brain Sells for $3,340




God does hate fags. Plenty of studies have shown that smoking tobacco kills, and God teaches that the body is the temple of man. So we should respect our bodies and not smoke fags.
Far from being at the top of the list and grace covers a lot of sins, it does not cover ones done intentionally such as lying and thefts.

Try stopping it at the manufacturing end or put them in jail where they belong. Smoke free nation in 6 months. 27 large corporations (Manufacturing and Medical) bankrupt in 8 months.
Suicide jumps to leading cause of death, that and cancer and incurable pneumonia, cough, cough.
 

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One of the nmany problems with democracy is that we must defend the right of wackos like the anti abortionists to have their say. However they must not be permitted to infringe on the rights of any female to have an abortion if she chooses to.
 

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God does hate fags. Plenty of studies have shown that smoking tobacco kills, and God teaches that the body is the temple of man. So we should respect our bodies and not smoke fags.

Oh, you're one of those, eh? You've spoken to God, then? He's told you this?

One of the nmany problems with democracy is that we must defend the right of wackos like the anti abortionists to have their say. However they must not be permitted to infringe on the rights of any female to have an abortion if she chooses to.

Democracy has nothing to do with it. Free speech is the issue. But free speech has limitations.
 

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One of the nmany problems with democracy is that we must defend the right of wackos like the anti abortionists to have their say. However they must not be permitted to infringe on the rights of any female to have an abortion if she chooses to.
What do you think of the practise of selling parts of the fetus ?
 

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I'm not for banning protest. I am against harassment. Nobody should be able to harass grieving family members at a funeral. No one should be able to harass someone entering a medical facility.
 

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I'm not for banning protest. I am against harassment. Nobody should be able to harass grieving family members at a funeral. No one should be able to harass someone entering a medical facility.

No one should harass. Whether they should be able to is another matter. It becomes a question of preemption vs. punishment after the fact.

Banning people from protesting near the clinic seems to presume that they will harass, and that makes it a case of preemption. That said, many pro-lifers caused this to happen. Once it becomes common enough, then we can make a case for preemption.
 

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No one should harass. Whether they should be able to is another matter. It becomes a question of preemption vs. punishment after the fact.

Banning people from protesting near the clinic seems to presume that they will harass, and that makes it a case of preemption. That said, many pro-lifers caused this to happen. Once it becomes common enough, then we can make a case for preemption.

When I used to live in Hamilton, Ontario I would take my kids to school and sometimes drive passed the pro-lifers with their pictures of aborted fetus's. These were giant glossy pictures on poster board. Now, I don't think they should be prevented from protesting, but I think what I found particularly sad was that they had little kids out there holding signs. Children who have yet to form opinion are being indoctrinated into this. I see it in much the same way children are used in extremist groups. I can't and wouldn't intervene, it's their kids, but not unlike the Khadr's, I think people like that are special kind of crazy.
 

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When I used to live in Hamilton, Ontario I would take my kids to school and sometimes drive passed the pro-lifers with their pictures of aborted fetus's. These were giant glossy pictures on poster board. Now, I don't think they should be prevented from protesting, but I think what I found particularly sad was that they had little kids out there holding signs. Children who have yet to form opinion are being indoctrinated into this. I see it in much the same way children are used in extremist groups. I can't and wouldn't intervene, it's their kids, but not unlike the Khadr's, I think people like that are special kind of crazy.

How so. I can understand how a person would react intensely to the idea that human life begins at conception but is not legally recognized as such.
 

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Where, in Canada?
Did I mention Canada anywhere in my question ?

When I used to live in Hamilton, Ontario I would take my kids to school and sometimes drive passed the pro-lifers with their pictures of aborted fetus's. These were giant glossy pictures on poster board. Now, I don't think they should be prevented from protesting, but I think what I found particularly sad was that they had little kids out there holding signs. Children who have yet to form opinion are being indoctrinated into this. I see it in much the same way children are used in extremist groups. I can't and wouldn't intervene, it's their kids, but not unlike the Khadr's, I think people like that are special kind of crazy.
Certainly and I don't disagree . When I was young , every time we went to the PNE we would go into the B.C. Building to check out the pickled babies . I wonder if that is where they get their pictures .
 

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Did I mention Canada anywhere in my question ?

I didn't see you mention any country. I was looking for clarification.
Certainly and I don't disagree . When I was young , every time we went to the PNE we would go into the B.C. Building to check out the pickled babies . I wonder if that is where they get their pictures .

This is just to prove I have a sense of humor.

Were they dill or sweet?

How so. I can understand how a person would react intensely to the idea that human life begins at conception but is not legally recognized as such.

There are people who believe strapping a bomb to a child is a one way ticket to paradise. I always get nervous when people use their kids for some righteous agenda. Like the Jehovah witness that drags a kid from door to door.
 

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Planned Parenthood Selling Baby Parts for Profit (Undercover Footage)


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Planned Parenthood Ottawa

The Truth Behind Planned Parenthood Canada's Disappearing Donations
Planned Parenthood Ottawa is publicly complaining about a decrease in donations. Their president, Lauren Dobson-Hughes, has taken to Twitter and the media to complain that they have been targeted. "A small group who oppose health care for women and trans people have put unacceptable pressure on Planned Parenthood Ottawa's funders ... harassing them and threatening to expose them in the media," she says.

This is interesting, not the least of the reasons is "Why now?" Planned Parenthood supports abortion, yes, but this is not newly divisive. Pro-life versus pro-choice folks have been going at it for almost 30 years since the Supreme Court decided R v. Morgentaler, leaving Canada without any abortion law at all.

On July 28, a group calling themselves the Center for Medical Progress began releasing an investigative sting operation into the practices of Planned Parenthood south of the border. Two actors posing as buyers of organs for research purposes got undercover video allegedly showing that Planned Parenthood in the USA engages in the sale of fetal hearts, livers, kidneys and heads ("calvarium") for profit.

The video evidence, all of which is available in full online, allegedly shows Planned Parenthood executives in different states discussing fetal organs with infinitely less concern than your auto mechanic discusses car parts. Planned Parenthood did a report assessing the videos, and their own analysis said first that "A thorough review of these videos in consultation with qualified experts found that they do not present a complete or accurate record of the events they purport to depict," but also that they "did not reveal widespread evidence of substantive video manipulation."

Quotes include one Planned Parenthood director, Dr. Deborah Nucatola, saying, "We've been very good at getting heart, lung, liver... so I'm not gonna crush that part, I'm gonna basically crush below, I'm gonna crush above, and I'm gonna see if I can get it all intact."
This while drinking a glass of wine and munching on a salad.
Additional videos show Planned Parenthood lab techs showing off bloody body parts -- little legs, hands, arms, to the actors posing as buyers, declaring when it was "another boy" or a twin. The discussion of financial benefits is frequent and forthcoming, with one Planned Parenthood exec saying "she wants a Lamborghini."
Federal law in the USA prohibits the sale of organs for profit, making this not merely morally problematic, but legally as well. Planned Parenthood USA gets a half a billion dollars (USD $528 million to be precise as per their most recent annual report) from the American federal government annually.



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Selling Babies for $9.99 (Canadians and Abortion)

Name change to protect the guilty.

https://lifecollective.io/lifecanad...volved-in-the-illegal-sale-of-baby-body-parts
The recent release of five videos depicting top Planned Parenthood execs haggling over prices for the sale of baby body parts, and even the grotesque visuals of the aborted babies themselves has created a scandal so enormous that is threatens to bring the abortion giant to its knees.

These dramatic events have prompted questions about what is happening north of the 49th parallel. Has this momentous scandal affected the Canadian arm of Planned Parenthood? Does Planned Parenthood in Canada also perform late-term abortions? Do they harvest and sell aborted baby body parts, and what can we do to stop this?

In Canada, Planned Parenthood operates under the conglomerate, Action Canada. Action Canada, founded in 2014, is comprised of three of Canada’s largest “sexual and reproductive health and rights” organizations. They are Canadians for Choice (CFC), the Canadian Federation for Sexual Health (CFSH) formerly Canada’s Planned Parenthood, and Action Canada for Population and Development (ACPD).

According to their web-site their goals are to act both nationally and internationally to increase education and access to “to quality sexual and reproductive health information and services.” There is a heavy focus on the international arena where they desire to push their agenda through channels like the United Nations and other international bodies.

Action Canada itself does not provide surgical or medical abortions but its many Associate Organizations do. These local and provincial organizations also make themselves the “go to” for education on matters of sexuality, and provide a host of contraceptive services, medical services such as tubal ligations, STD testing and mammograms.

Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s official web-site still refers to the Canadian branch of Planned Parenthood as the CFSH. The following answer to the question “Is there Planned Parenthood in Canada?” reads, “Check out the Canadian Federation for Sexual Health (CFSH). CFSH represents a large network of sexual and reproductive health centers in Canada, and can direct you to a health center close to you.” Links point to the Action Canada site. They also have this “fun fact” with regard to clinics that still use the Planned Parenthood name: “some clinics in Canada may be named “Planned Parenthood,” but they’re not a part of the network of health centers that Planned Parenthood Federation of America oversees.”

The conclusion to draw from all of this is that the former CFSH and now Action Canada are definitely under PPFA and are likely to be affected by this scandal that has long been waiting to rear its ugly head.

Whether or not Canadian clinics participate in the harvesting and illegal sale in baby body parts is not known, but what is known is that governments, both provincial and federal, and other agencies such as the United Way which directly fund abortion clinics in British Columbia, may be feeling the heat. An investigation into the activities of these PPFA affiliates in Canada would be in order, considering how much tax funding goes to support these organizations. Canadians have a right to know whether their money is supporting such horrific illegal activity.

LifeCanada uncovered some sponsors of Planned Parenthood Ottawa; the City of Ottawa, Ontario Trillium Foundation which apparently is funded by Ontario government lotteries, The Canadian Museum of War, the National Arts Centre, and the Museum of Civilization.

Over the past three years, the Federal government allocated $6 million of tax payers’ money for International Planned Parenthood Federation for “health and reproductive services” abroad.

Whether baby body parts are being bought and sold in our Canadian clinics or not, the fact that these children are dismembered in the most brutal fashion is certainly being made apparent through the descriptions and video footage showing their little torn bodies. Abortion’s havoc is on display all over North America and it is hard not to connect the dots.



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Founded in 2014, three of Canada’s leading sexual and reproductive health and rights organizations saw an opportunity for a strengthened voice in international and national policy, education and access as well as a way to engage others across Canada and around the world in the sexual and reproductive health and rights movement.