If you have ever had negative thoughts about Yahweh, you are close to a Gnostic Chris

Danbones

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Has the relationship between the words "exCALIBER" and "HOLY" occurred to any of you gun nuts yet?
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Christ was not yet born in the days of Abraham and Sodom is a hospitality myth.


Really?? Here is His witness of creation.

Proverb:8:22-31:
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way,
before his works of old.
I was set up from everlasting,
from the beginning,
or ever the earth was.
When there were no depths,
I was brought forth;
when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Before the mountains were settled,
before the hills was I brought forth:
While as yet he had not made the earth,
nor the fields,
nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
When he prepared the heavens,
I was there:
when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
When he established the clouds above:
when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
When he gave to the sea his decree,
that the waters should not pass his commandment:
when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Then I was by him, as one brought up with him:
and I was daily his delight,
rejoicing always before him;
Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth;
and my delights were with the sons of men.

Heb:7:1-3:
For this Melchisedec,
king of Salem,
priest of the most high God,
who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings,
and blessed him;
To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all;
first being by interpretation King of righteousness,
and after that also King of Salem,
which is, King of peace;
Without father,
without mother,
without descent,
having neither beginning of days,
nor end of life;
but made like unto the Son of God;
abideth a priest continually.

Ge:14:18:
And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine:
and he was the priest of the most high God.

Why do you read a Jewish myth literally when the old Jews do not?

Without God being literal the Jews have no right to claim any literal item as belonging to them, such as the current area they call Israel. The Gentiles owe them nothing so all the loot they have collected based on the fables of WWII are stolen goods and should be returned. They can give up the banking industry too as a small minority does not have the right to rule over the much larger majority. The odds are we would be further ahead if the ones that can't even decipher their own holy books were running nothing more important to society than a Circus.

Perhaps God decided to give me a better understanding than He gave to them as they are still under the exile rules from about 600BC. If God lost faith in them (they actually lost faith in God) why on earth should the world embrace them as knowing how to run anything when they couldn't keep it together when God was sending the Prophets. I'm pretty sure killing some of them shows they lack a certain amount of understanding about God.

Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."

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Really?? Is that for Jew on Jew or does it mean Jew and Gentile?? The Torah puts Gentiles in the role of being possessions rather than equal 'brothers' so why accept a false teaching when the Bible has a lot of instruction that is not included in the first 5 books of the Bible. Daniel had all the OT to study yet he was lost about the whole meaning. He was told that people later would be given more instructions and even after that knowledge would somehow increase.
If their ego is too big to allow a Gentile to give them a clear view of the context of the whole book then that is God work rather than Gentiles cannot understand the book at a deeper level than any Rabbi can. They expect me to listen when they have lost the ability to listen to anybody but themselves.
That is also why God allows their numbers to drop to 144,000, a prophecy from the Torah that they do not understand. Go get some opinions from some Rabbi on what this short section means in today's world.

De:4:26-31:
I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day,
that ye shall soon utterly perish from off the land whereunto ye go over Jordan to possess it;
ye shall not prolong your days upon it,
but shall utterly be destroyed.
And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations,
and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen,
whither the LORD shall lead you.
And there ye shall serve gods,
the work of men's hands,
wood and stone,
which neither see,
nor hear,
nor eat,
nor smell.
But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God,
thou shalt find him,
if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
When thou art in tribulation,
and all these things are come upon thee,
even in the latter days,
if thou turn to the LORD thy God,
and shalt be obedient unto his voice;
(For the LORD thy God is a merciful God;)
he will not forsake thee,
neither destroy thee,
nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.

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Please listen as to what is said about literal reading.

"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."

Other than he is saying things you want to hear why in hell would he have any insight into the Bible at all.
Deeper meaning?? Considering all the text in the book is how you gains wisdom about who God is and what the book is all about.
How many Rabbi can admit the cross was the completion of all things to do with the bruise to the heel from Ge:3:15. Not one so they are all flawed, that you fail to see that also means God has put blinders on you the same as they have. That is to your discredit as well as theirs so the odds are you both will share the same fate. Meeting God will be done via resurrection, almost as good as being a believer in a literal God but a little short.
 

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You guys are funny.
 

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And here we get to the fundamental purpose of religion.
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Indeed.


What or who needs to seek excellence more than religions?


After all, they are the greatest force of senseless conflict in the world. Right?






Regards
DL
 

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I think the religions are the greatest door into manipulating people, but the people doing the manipulating are NOT religious as we know it.
 

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Meeting God will be done via resurrection, almost as good as being a believer in a literal God but a little short.



You seem to be seeking perfect wisdom, even though you kill your own search by your foolish beliefs.


Why do you not read this part of scriptures literally and do as bid?


Hebrews 6 King James Version; 1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, 2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.


Regards
DL


I think the religions are the greatest door into manipulating people, but the people doing the manipulating are NOT religious as we know it.



I tend to agree with you on this. Governments and their dumbing us down run a close second.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVqMAlgAnlo&app=desktop


I do not think that Canada is quite as bad as the U.S. but our government does maintain the Noble Lie that religions are worthy of respect when they are not.


Both Christianity and Islam have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways.


Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations.



Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality.



Regards
DL
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Indeed.


What or who needs to seek excellence more than religions?


After all, they are the greatest force of senseless conflict in the world. Right?






Regards
DL

Yep, and sitting around congratulating yourself on how superior you are is step one. Step two is deciding that gives you the authority to tell other folk what to do.
 

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Yep, and sitting around congratulating yourself on how superior you are is step one. Step two is deciding that gives you the authority to tell other folk what to do.
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The same authority you use to do the same thing.


Kettle-pot.


Regards
DL
 

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You seem to be seeking perfect wisdom, even though you kill your own search by your foolish beliefs.


Why do you not read this part of scriptures literally and do as bid?


Hebrews 6 King James Version; 1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, 2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.


Regards
DL

Perfection is a process that takes time and has some stages to it. God is from the perfection level of the 3rd heaven. 2 perfected angels can marry and have a child. Angels are from the 2nd heaven and they are perfected when they enter the 3rd heaven. In their current realm they are the perfected version of men who inhabit the 1st heaven and they are perfect for being able to lead others. The first perfected humans are the ones who are taken from the earth at the end of the 1,000 year period. In that time they gained knowledge about God, the verse you referenced is showing that perfection is a stepping stone sort of journey.

Heb:12:22:
But ye are come unto mount Sion,
and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem,
and to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb:12:23:
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
which are written in heaven,
and to God the Judge of all,
and to the spirits of just men made perfect,



Being called insane by a religious fanatic is very reassuring.
All together now. (why miss such an opportunity?)
 

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Perfection is a process that takes time and has some stages to it. God is from the perfection level of the 3rd heaven. 2 perfected angels can marry and have a child. Angels are from the 2nd heaven and they are perfected when they enter the 3rd heaven. In their current realm they are the perfected version of men who inhabit the 1st heaven and they are perfect for being able to lead others. The first perfected humans are the ones who are taken from the earth at the end of the 1,000 year period. In that time they gained knowledge about God, the verse you referenced is showing that perfection is a stepping stone sort of journey.
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I want to be in the second hell that sits beside your third heaven, just beside the race track.


That is where all the best looking women are.


You do a great job of discrediting your religion. Keep up the great work.


Regards
DL
 

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I want to be in the second hell that sits beside your third heaven, just beside the race track.

That is where all the best looking women are.

You do a great job of discrediting your religion. Keep up the great work.

Regards
DL
You claiming to be a good looking girl??
You don't know my doctrine so how can you judge it?
BTW go fuk yourself.