Trump’s Remarks on Charlottesville Violence Are Criticized as Insufficient

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There's talk of removing a Confederate monument in a cemetery in Seattle, but it's on private property and so the city can't do much about it. I've seen that Lenin statue and I'm not sure if it's on private land or not. It would be ironic if that's what saved it.

Mayor Murray expresses concern about Confederate monument in Seattle cemetery | The Seattle Times

They have been threatened already. No surprise.
And the Lenin is privately owned, on private land. The irony of it is delicious.
 

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There is news elsewhere, this is just at the top of the pile (for good reason).




The establishment is what's preventing the US from a hostile takeover by a Nazi sympathizer.

Clinton has no chance of overtaking the government so no worries.

I haven't heard any plans to. Have you?

And you can bet if anybody does propose tearing up the battlefields, it's most likely to be. . .

real estate developers.

Bet you won't hear any bitching out of the White House over that.

I don't know about you, but I don't think traitors and enemies deserve statues. Though I'd be OK with a statue of Robert E. Lee with Grant's foot on his chest and sword at his throat.

Better remove the statue of Paul Revere then.

Id go to one of these rallies and sell bottles of water for $12 and sandwiches for $6.

Make money off of the fighting between others.

$>$

Sell beer. Real beer not Yankee piss water. Guaranteed to liven things up. I'd recommend some porch climber a friend makes but in excess tends to put people to sleep.
 

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I haven't heard any plans to. Have you?

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I don't know about you, but I don't think traitors and enemies deserve statues. Though I'd be OK with a statue of Robert E. Lee with Grant's foot on his chest and sword at his throat.

In canuckstan we don't erect statues to honour traitorous clans we go one better n' pay em $millions.

Was Grant right or left? Did he not after defeating lee insist that lee not be charged and lees' troops allowed to return home, if true it makes him a rare bird indeed.
 

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In canuckstan we don't erect statues to honour traitorous clans we go one better n' pay em $millions.

Was Grant right or left? Did he not after defeating lee insist that lee not be charged and lees' troops allowed to return home, if true it makes him a rare bird indeed.
No, he did not. Down here we don't leave that kind of decision to generals.

Better remove the statue of Paul Revere then.
Why? Was Revere a traitor to the United States?

Don't even bother to answer, I know what you're going to say. "He was a traitor to England." So what? Unlike you, we showed England the door. Not our job to enforce their laws.

This would seem obvious to a moderately bright grade three student.
 

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The alt-right? They’re alt-Reich
By Candice Malcolm
First posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 05:24 PM EDT | Updated: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 05:37 PM EDT
A so-called “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia last weekend ended in violence and tragedy.
There were many groups in attendance — on the left and the right — and while both sides engaged in violence, the alt-right has blood on its hands.
Amidst the chaos of protests and counter-protests, a white supremacist is accused of using an ISIS-style tactic, deliberately driving his car through a crowd of leftist activists.
It was a terrorist attack that left one woman dead and 19 injured.
Far from “uniting the right,” this incident underlines the need to shine light on the extremists that have latched onto the conservative movement, and to purge racists and bigots from our midst.
Conservatives must disavow, denounce and distance themselves from this poisonous fringe group.
It’s important that conservatives loudly and clearly call out the racism and bigotry that make up the alt-right, or, what I believe is a more apt description: the alt-Reich.
I call them them that because, like the Nazis in the Third Reich, they are traitors to the Enlightenment tradition and enemies to the West.
They echo Nazi sentiment about race and white nationalism, and use Nazi symbols and slogans.
Far from being patriotic conservatives, these white supremacists argue positions that are counter to core conservative principles of individual liberty, limited government, the rule of law and equality before the law.
They believe in a collective group identity, whereas conservatives believe in individual rights and responsibilities.
They are obsessed with race, whereas conservatives believe in pluralism, fundamental equality and dignity for every person in society.
They obsess over religious differences, whereas conservatives believe in freedom of religion.
They use violence and intimidation, whereas conservatives advocate for free speech to help resolve our differences.
In fact, the leaders of the alt-right openly reject conservatism.
They talk about the need for big government and the welfare state to promote white nationalism.
Like the original Nazis, these neo-Nazis are national socialists — not conservatives.
Like many of today’s activists on the far-left, the alt-right engages in counter-productive and divisive identity politics.
They’ve taken a page from leftist group victimhood and merged it with an abhorrent ideology and one of the most grotesque chapters in 20th century history.
Conservatives should fight against identity politics of the left, emphasizing what unites us and what makes Western civilization so successful, rather than engage in similar race-baiting.
The alt-right is a fringe group with a small following. But because of its online activity, it’s created the impression of a powerful and growing movement.
That isn’t true.
As conservative author and broadcaster Ben Shapiro pointed out, the great majority of alt-right and anti-Semitic comments comes from fewer than 2,000 online accounts.
That’s not a big movement. It is a loud band of losers.
Every conservative should push these extremists out of our movement, and challenge the leftist narrative that says the alt-right represents all conservatives.
Conservatives should criticize Donald Trump for his initial statement after Charlottesville that failed to call out this evil by name.
The alt-right is to everyday conservatives what extremist hate preachers are to everyday Muslims.
They’re poisonous and their idiocy casts a negative light on the entire community.
Rather than ignoring the alt-right, conservatives should call out their vile worldview and refute their daft ideas.
There is no room for the alt-right inside the modern conservative coalition.
The alt-right? They’re alt-Reich

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Again, anybody who claims to be a Christian would know I was referencing the Bible there and wouldn't call it "humbug", especially someone who is a adamantly chauvistic as you. I would imagine you had the courage of your convictions to at least know the Bible before you ignored it and espoused such your un-Christian hatred. I overestimated you.


Hey, do you know the kind of person Jesus denounces the most in the gospels? I'll give you the answer because you don't know Jesus. It's hypocrites.




from T-bone Coldstream's a white supremacist. He's not a follower of Jesus, he's a follower of Augustus Forrest and Adolf Hitler
You have become less and less coherent Cord. I expect that from T-Bone (especially around full moons), but your logic seems to be disintegrating as well. I'd like to know exactly what where my hypocrisy lies. I've condemned both the White Supremicists and the Anarchist Black Shirts who converged on Charlottesville with the intent of riot and rumble. The outcome was very predictable.

I've also lamented the removal of Monuments to Confederate War Dead, many which have stood for a century and half. They have traditionally been deemed to be historical artefacts, and, only now in the polarization of racial, cultural and ecomomic divides exacerbated by the Liberal Media are deemed to be symbols of racism. I've supported a far more constructive response as that of erecting monuments to Civil Rights martyrs, or to black soldiers who fell in the Union cause to develop a balance and dialogue.. rather than erasing history.

You'll have to show me where the type of reverse racism and bigotry espoused by the the politically correct left is supported in the Bible. By and large you will find its proponents are agnostics or atheists and consider Christianity a religion of racism, sexism and homophobia. Which just shows how little they, and you, understand of it. But still have no problem using it as a weapon in their cause.
 
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Lie. They are monuments to Confederate leaders, not to the war dead.


Lie. The large majority of them were erected in the KKK waves of the 1920s and 1950s.


The monument pulled down in Durham NC by blackshirt thugs a few days ago was of a simple confederate soldier, likely an illiterate farmer fighting for what he deemed his nation. And where are your figures t-bone. Most of these memorials were set up by bereaved relatives of war dead. Most small towns had monuments in their town square, just a you'll find Cenotaphs to WWI dead in most Canadian towns.
 

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I'm not sure if he was lying or just being ignorant.
He would lie even if he wasn't.

The monument pulled down in Durham NC by blackshirt thugs a few days ago was of a simple confederate soldier, likely an illiterate farmer fighting for what he deemed his nation. And where are your figures t-bone. Most of these memorials were set up by bereaved relatives of war dead. Most small towns had monuments in their town square, just a you'll find Cenotaphs to WWI dead in most Canadian towns.
I'm not your google bitch. Do your own research.

Or don't bother. We already know you're a white supremacist.
 

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Chicago pastor wants presidents' names dropped from parks
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First posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 01:16 PM EDT | Updated: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 01:30 PM EDT
A pastor in Illinois believes former U.S. presidents George Washington and Andrew Jackson shouldn't be honoured because they were slave owners.
Bishop James Dukes, a pastor of the Liberation Christian Center in Chicago is asking the city's administration to remove the names of the presidents from two parks in the metropolitan's south side.
According to CBS Chicago, Dukes wants the names of Jackson Park and Washington Park changed. In the latter's case, the park contains a statue of Washington on horse back – something Dukes also wants to be banished.
“When I see that, I see a person who fought for the liberties, and I see people that fought for the justice and freedom of white America, because at that moment, we were still chattel slavery, and was three-fifths of humans,” Dukes told CBS Chicago. “Some people out here ask me, say ‘Well, you know, he taught his slaves to read.’ That’s almost sad; the equivalent of someone who kidnaps you, that you gave them something to eat.”
The pastor said he's not asking city administration to rename the parks entirely but suggests the spaces could be named in honour of other noteworthy people such as former mayor Harold Washington, Rev. Jesse Jackson or Michael Jackson.
Dukes says he doesn't want to erase history, but rather black people should be able to have a say in who is and who is not honoured in the communities they live in.
He said anything honouring Washington and Jackson might be more fitting elsewhere, just not in black-centric communities.
Letters have been sent to Mayor Rahm Emanuel and the Chicago Park District with the suggestions, CBS Chicago reported. The mayor's office has yet to comment on the matter.
Chicago pastor wants presidents' names dropped from parks | World | News | Toron

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You have become less and less coherent Cord. I expect that from T-Bone (especially around full moons), but your logic seems to be disintegrating as well. I'd like to know exactly what where my hypocrisy lies. I've condemned both the White Supremicists and the Anarchist Black Shirts who converged on Charlottesville with the intent of riot and rumble. The outcome was very predictable.

Your hypocrisy is that you claim to be a Christian when you aren't. As evidenced by the hatred in your heart and the fact that you don't recognize the words of Christ when referenced and instead you sneer at them.

In fact, I would guess that the fact that you didn't recognize the kind of hypocrisy I was referring to when I clearly mentioned that Christ denounces hypocrisy the most, is further evidence that you don't really know Jesus.

And when I say "know Jesus" a Christian should understand exactly what I mean by that. See you Hell, coldstream.
 

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Your hypocrisy is that you claim to be a Christian when you aren't. As evidenced by the hatred in your heart and the fact that you don't recognize the words of Christ when referenced and instead you sneer at them.

In fact, I would guess that the fact that you didn't recognize the kind of hypocrisy I was referring to when I clearly mentioned that Christ denounces hypocrisy the most, is further evidence that you don't really know Jesus.

And when I say "know Jesus" a Christian should understand exactly what I mean by that. See you in Hell, coldstream.


I have no idea what you're talking about, Cord. Why don't you check back when you're not under the influence of something.
 

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The monument pulled down in Durham NC by blackshirt thugs a few days ago was of a simple confederate soldier, likely an illiterate farmer fighting for what he deemed his nation. And where are your figures t-bone. Most of these memorials were set up by bereaved relatives of war dead. Most small towns had monuments in their town square, just a you'll find Cenotaphs to WWI dead in most Canadian towns.
Yep, that's coldstream logic. One monument pulled down was a common soldier, therefore all monuments removed are common soldiers.
 

coldstream

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He would lie even if he wasn't.


I'm not your google bitch. Do your own research.

Or don't bother. We already know you're a white supremacist.



I rest my case. You are bs artist and troll, t-bone.. who really has no coherent opinion whatsoever.. just a rootless misanthropy against the world in general.. and some kind of paranoid delusion that it is conspiring against you.
 
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