Sorry Walter, but I'm not in the mood to run around the net finding the links for your right now.
Fast-charging stations for electric vehicles coming to Trans-Canada Highway
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Sorry Walter, but I'm not in the mood to run around the net finding the links for your right now.
Interesting. I wonder the same thing about the extraction and processing of oil.
But if you are low on fuel, there is likely a gas station close by. And if you do run out, you can walk with a gas can to the next one or call CAA. Electric ones your only choice would be a tow truck or to carry a real long extention cord.
[I live less than a mile from that sign. It's huge. I watched the workmen putting it up and the rear windows on that car are the full height of a man.]
It certainly is a massive endorsement by Ford.
Hilarious. Two provinces make up Canada and there'll be 34 charging stations between them? Christ, how efficient ARE these piece of crap EVs? I could drive from North Bay to the other side of Manitoba on two, maybe three tanks of gas. Are there even 34 gas stations along that stretch of the Trans-Canada?
Not quite. For example, if you buy a Tesla you'd have to drive the car for 8 years before it became carbon neutral.
If you're lucky...
People need to do a bit of research and realize that nothing is free and everything has an environmental impact. EV's are no exception. People get all self-righteous and think that their saving the planet with their Prius, but they're only fooling themselves.
Tesla might be worse for the environment than a gas car.
"The global warming potential for EVs that rely on natural gas – generally considered to be the cleanest fossil fuel – show an improvement of only 12 percent over gasoline, and break even with diesel.
Most alarming, EVs that depend on coal for their electricity are actually 17 percent to 27 percent worse than diesel or gas engines. That is especially bad for the United States, because we derive close to 45 percent of our electricity from coal. In states like Texas, Pennsylvania, and Ohio, that number is much closer to 100 percent."
https://www.wired.com/2016/03/teslas-electric-cars-might-not-green-think/
"In the Jiangxi rare earth mine in China, Abraham writes, workers dig eight-foot holes and pour ammonium sulfate into them to dissolve the sandy clay. Then they haul out bags of muck and pass it through several acid baths; what’s left is baked in a kiln, leaving behind the rare earths required by everything from our phones to our Teslas. At this mine, those rare earths amounted to 0.2 percent of what gets pulled out of the ground. The other 99.8 percent—now contaminated with toxic chemicals—is dumped back into the environment. That damage is difficult to quantify, just like the impact of oil drilling."
With regards to this program being rolled out in Canada, the link above states how the charging stations will be paid for, but my question is who pays for the electricity these things will be gobbling up? Nothing's free.
All one has to do is acknowledge the amount of Government subsidy that's going into trying to popularize EV's to see that this is all about politics and optics, and has zero to do with the environment. But then again, optic seem to be what it's all about these days, real solutions be damned.
Poor Flossy....preaches for electric vehicles.....This is all he deserves....
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The problem with this investment is Canada will have to keep providing subsidies and rebates for EVs. I've already stated what happens in countries and states that scrapped incentives for buying EVs, sales plummet. In Denmark sales of EVs and ECVs dropped by over 60% as incentives were eliminated. In the state of Georgia sales plummeted by 80% after the incentives were eliminated. The results are similar everywhere the incentives have been scrapped.
But what's really interesting about those sales while the incentives were in place is most of the sales were actually wholesale. Normally in the auto industry wholesale accounts for about 6% of sales. IN the EV market it accounts for 56% of the sales. Meaning that most of those EV never ended up in the hands of an end user. So even the sales figures were casually misrepresented.
So basically as you said, the move to "green" tech isn't about the environment. It IS about how much money corporations can grab before reality sets in and the bottom falls out though.
But what's really interesting about those sales while the incentives were in place is most of the sales were actually wholesale. Normally in the auto industry wholesale accounts for about 6% of sales. IN the EV market it accounts for 56% of the sales. Meaning that most of those EV never ended up in the hands of an end user. So even the sales figures were casually misrepresented.
It goes beyond EVs though. Even in the renewable energy market as soon as the subsidies are removed, investment drops significantly. Remember all the crowing about China and how they were really embracing "green" energy? Yeah, it was an embrace of generous subsidies they were embracing. Even through the first half of 2016 investment was rolling along in China, until the end of the subsidies. The second half of 2016 saw green energy investment in China drop by more than 50%.
So basically as you said, the move to "green" tech isn't about the environment. It IS about how much money corporations can grab before reality sets in and the bottom falls out though.
Make them small like the ones used in ships and subs. For smaller places over-gravity machines at every building would eliminate widespread power failure
Considering that pathetically weak response, I'd surmise that Petros is right on the money.
It's like a religion with you, isn't it. You just can't deal with anyone pointing out the major flaws in your foolish, poorly thought out belief system.
$500k per charger. I wasnt expecting them to be as cheap as a usb charger, but 500k is bit rediculous dont you think?
34 whole charging stations.... Why, that ought to accommodate a few dozen cars at least!
The efficiency drops as the weight of the load increases... Throw a passanger in and maybe a kid in the back and your range drops... Think twice about packing along any luggage.
The spent batteries are loaded with all kinds of toxic nasties and heavy metals that are not recyclable in perpetuity and they will need to be replaced every number of years.... Your average run-of-the-mill greentard is oblivious to this fact
The efficiency drops as the weight of the load increases... Throw a passanger in and maybe a kid in the back and your range drops... Think twice about packing along any luggage.
The spent batteries are loaded with all kinds of toxic nasties and heavy metals that are not recyclable in perpetuity and they will need to be replaced every number of years.... Your average run-of-the-mill greentard is oblivious to this fact
Not at all. They are for urban use and will be for long while. I don't have a use for one.