If terrorist are to be defeated, Saudi Arabia must stop funding

tay

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We associate our by now familiar enemies - al Qaeda, the Taliban, ISIS, and similar groups - with radical Islam often known as Wahabbism. That's fair enough. Yet the monied branch of Wahabbism that funds the operational, murderous branch, is our ally.

On Thursday, The Middle East Monitor (link is external), ran an op-ed, "If terrorist groups are to be defeated, Saudi Arabia must stop funding those it favours."


Perhaps contradictorily, the country is blamed widely for the rise of ISIS. Since the start of the Syrian civil war in 2011, the government in Riyadh has been funding Islamist groups fighting to overthrow President Bashar Al-Assad. It was these groups that gave birth to ISIS.

Saudi Arabia has a long and complicated relationship with Sunni terrorist groups. On the one hand, the kingdom, which denies outright that it funds terrorism, is engaged in a regional cold war with Iran, a Shia state, and as such seeks to strengthen opposition to Shia leaders in the Middle East. As Sir Richard Dearlove, the former head of MI6 has said, Saudi Arabia is "deeply attracted to any militancy which can effectively challenge Shiadom." The country practices and is run according to Wahabbism, an extreme interpretation of Islam that many Sunni militant groups also follow. On the other hand, Riyadh's rulers feel personally threatened by the ascendancy of groups such as Al-Qaeda in the early 2000s, or ISIS today. This is because they fear that these groups might seek to replace the Saud family with even more extreme Wahabbi leaders. Saudi Arabia is home to Islam's two holiest sites in Makkah and Madinah and as such is always a potential target for fundamentalist groups, which might seek to take over the cities. ISIS propaganda, for instance, vows "to liberate the 'Land of the Two Holy Mosques'."

As a strictly controlled police state with a wealthy state apparatus and an all-powerful monarchy, Saudi Arabia is far better equipped to tackle the internal terrorist threat than most of its neighbours are. However, the root problem will not disappear until Riyadh stops funding, encouraging and nurturing militant groups overseas whenever it suits Saudi interests to do so.



If you can't believe that the Saudis and their Gulf state cousins are playing both sides of this struggle and losing badly at both, you should read this eye-opener published by (link is external)The Independent (link is external) in mid-July, 2014.


Thanks to Wikileaks blowing the cover on Hillary Clinton's messages (link is external) it's obvious that Washington has known since 2009 that the Saudis have been funding the worst terrorism (link is external) the Middle East has seen.


Petro-states tend to breed incompetent, indulged leaders who sometimes sit upon vast wealth and wonder what to do with it.


Combine that sort of wealth and idleness with fundamentalist religious extremism and it breeds a succession of Islamist extremist terror movements such as al Qaeda and, more recently, ISIS.


The Gulf princes are like Dr. Frankenstein. They unleash monsters to attack their perceived rivals but when those creations instead also turn on them well then it's time to call in the cavalry, the West. In the result we'll battle al Qaeda for 15, 20, maybe 50 years, ISIS for who knows how long, and, if we do manage to knock them down, we'll be drawn in to tackle the next terrorist organization our allies, the Gulf oil princes, decide to fund.

So long as we dutifully collaborate with Sunni extremists like the House of Saud, we may never get out of this. We keep boasting how we have no time for "state sponsored terrorism" and yet we keep showing that is simply untrue. We know the very worst terrorism sponsoring states and we actually consider them our allies even as they spawn murderous gangs that would be only too happy to attack us.
 

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ABSOLUTELY!!!

Let's get building pipelines east and south, let's get that oil out of the ground, let's simply screw the Sauds over.....it is about time.
 

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it's obvious that Washington has known since 2009 that the Saudis have been funding the worst terrorism (link is external) the Middle East has seen.


Actually on this forum and others people have pointed out since the the 9/11 attacks that it was Saudi Arabia that has funded these groups. How many times did people on this forum point out that there were no Afghanis or Iraqis in the attack on the WTC? Over and over again it was said that 18 of the 19 operatives were SA's. The UN, Washington DC, Interpol, EU and everyone else has remained silent and have taken no corrective action.

Wikileaks was only the latest disclosure of that truth.
 

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Saudi Arabia has been funding mosques throughout Europe that have become hotbeds of extremism, the former British ambassador to Saudi Arabia Sir William Patey has said.

His remarks come a day after the government published a brief summary of a Home Office-commissioned report into the funding of extremism in the UK. The full report is not being published for security reasons.

Patey said he did not believe Saudi Arabia was directly funding terrorist groups, but rather an ideology that leads to extremism, and suggested that its leaders might not be aware of the consequences. “It is unhealthy and we need to do something about it,” he said.

“What the World Association [sic] of Muslim Youth and the Muslim World League are doing is funding mosques and promoting an ideology – the Salifist Wahhabist ideology.”

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ng-extremism-in-europe-says-former-ambassador
 

MHz

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Israel to Saudi, 'Here , hold these bags of bombs as our storage facilities are full and the world won't stand for another Gaza demolition party.' Just how safe would you feel knowing they have a tendency to stab partners in the back. How safe would you feel knowing the bags of bombs in Israel are there to protect the citizens of the French speaking part of Belgium. NATO is the Rothschild EU army and they are scared shitless of Russia.
 

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Stop being so racist you're going to have to pay out more 10.5 million dollars
 

Danbones

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Syria's al-Qaeda affiliate escapes from Canada's terror list

The reasons for the reluctance to list the new al-Qaeda formation may have to do with one of its new members, the Nour ed-Dine Zenki Brigade, a jihadi group from the Aleppo governorate.

The Zenki Brigade was an early and prominent recipient of U.S. aid, weapons and training.
Syria's al-Qaeda affiliate escapes from Canada's terror list - Politics - CBC News

And these are the 'good guys'! Sickening video shows US-backed Syrian rebels taunting and then brutally beheading a young boy

The video captures Nour al-Din al-Zenki fighters in the back of a truck with a child they claim is an al-Quds soldier supporting Assad's Syrian forces.

One of the fighters shouts 'Allahu Akbar' meaning 'God is great' after taking a small knife to the boy's throat and cutting off his head in the Palesinian refugee Handarat Camp in Northern Aleppo.

US-backed Nour al-Din al-Zenki behead boy accused of being al-Quds spy for Assad | Daily Mail Online

Obama-backed Syrian “Rebels” Behead 12-Year-Old Boy
https://www.thenewamerican.com/worl...a-backed-syrian-rebels-behead-12-year-old-boy

The Saudi Arabian involvement in the Syrian War has involved the large-scale supply of weapons and ammunition to various rebel groups in Syria during the Syrian Civil War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian_support_to_Syrian_Opposition_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War

So, OBAMA and Trudeau funded, and fund terrorists who chop the heads off little boys eh?

Come on. The Saudis have oil. Everyone knows anyone associated with the oil industry is entirely blameless.

Get someone to read the above to you.
 
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MHz

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ABSOLUTELY!!!

Let's get building pipelines east and south, let's get that oil out of the ground, let's simply screw the Sauds over.....it is about time.
The World Banks sets the oil output rather than any nation. Thanks for playing though, . . next contestant please.

PS, the US supplies all the weapons for all the terrorists.
 

Bar Sinister

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Syria's al-Qaeda affiliate escapes from Canada's terror list

The reasons for the reluctance to list the new al-Qaeda formation may have to do with one of its new members, the Nour ed-Dine Zenki Brigade, a jihadi group from the Aleppo governorate.

The Zenki Brigade was an early and prominent recipient of U.S. aid, weapons and training.
Syria's al-Qaeda affiliate escapes from Canada's terror list - Politics - CBC News

And these are the 'good guys'! Sickening video shows US-backed Syrian rebels taunting and then brutally beheading a young boy

The video captures Nour al-Din al-Zenki fighters in the back of a truck with a child they claim is an al-Quds soldier supporting Assad's Syrian forces.

One of the fighters shouts 'Allahu Akbar' meaning 'God is great' after taking a small knife to the boy's throat and cutting off his head in the Palesinian refugee Handarat Camp in Northern Aleppo.

US-backed Nour al-Din al-Zenki behead boy accused of being al-Quds spy for Assad | Daily Mail Online

Obama-backed Syrian “Rebels” Behead 12-Year-Old Boy
https://www.thenewamerican.com/worl...a-backed-syrian-rebels-behead-12-year-old-boy

The Saudi Arabian involvement in the Syrian War has involved the large-scale supply of weapons and ammunition to various rebel groups in Syria during the Syrian Civil War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian_support_to_Syrian_Opposition_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War

So, OBAMA and Trudeau funded, and fund terrorists who chop the heads off little boys eh?



Get someone to read the above to you.

Sorry, I didn't realize you were so dense you wouldn't be able to understand sarcasm.
 

Danbones

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NAW, haha, you misunderstand that I misunderstood.
Your idols fund terrorists, and that's the only real pseudo comeback[sic] you may have had left.
;)
If terrorism is to end, THEY are the ones that have to be stopped.
 
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Walter

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I believe Iran is the biggest sponsor of terrorism/terrorists.
 

Danbones

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Well Walter belief is one thing, but the facts may not support that.
It was the CIA that took out their democratic government in the 50s and installed the Shaw of Iran, so right there is proof you may be incorrect about that.