Should First Nations be free to establish privately-funded hospitals?

[White_Unifier]

Present Canadian laws push private health care abroad, a loss of valuable source of potential consumer spending and tax revenue in the Canadian economy.

Meanwhile, we scratch our heads wondering where we'll get the money to help First Nations communities.

Why not allow privately-funded health care on reserves? This way, instead of traveling to the US, Cuba, and even Hong Kong among other places, Canadians seeking private health care could spend their money right here in Canada. This would create more jobs for medical professionals in Canada instead of abroad, and these professionals would pay their taxes in Canada too.

Environmentally, the shorter travel distances would reduce fuel consumption to reach hospitals abroad.

Also, hospitals on reserves would need to abide by indigenous laws, so First Nations could have access to hospitals that cater better than others to their cultural needs while still catering to other Canadians too.

Your thoughts on this?

Also, I'd rather free indigenous people to work in hospitals and make a positive contribution to people's lives than to force them to sell tobacco or open casinos etc.

On-reserve farms could also be exempted from supply-management and on-reserve media from Canadian-content rules. On-reserve businesses (or at least all on-reserve sole traders and worker cooperatives that do not participate in the weapons industry other than sports equipment) could be exempted from all import tariffs.

 

[Hoof Hearted]

The Chiefs would be in charge of the on-reserve hospitals, and the money would go up in smoke.

My Uncle years ago bought a 1955 T-Bird for $20,000 off of a guy in a private sale. When Unc came to pay the next day, he was told an Indian Chief arrived with $25,000 cash and wanted the car. But the seller stayed true to my Uncle as they had already shook on the deal, and sold him the car. I'll post a pic of it when I find one...it's in storage somewhere.

 

[White_Unifier]

The Chiefs would be in charge of the on-reserve hospitals, and the money would go up in smoke.

My Uncle years ago bought a 1955 T-Bird for $20,000 off of a guy in a private sale. When Unc came to pay the next day, he was told an Indian Chief arrived with $25,000 cash and wanted the car. But the seller stayed true to my Uncle as they had already shook on the deal, and sold him the car. I'll post a pic of it when I find one...it's in storage somewhere.

Why would any private business establish a hospital that would just go up in smoke? Maybe this would give chiefs an incentive to smarten up then when they're suddenly given this opportunity, private businesses are offering contracts that the chiefs decline, and so no business comes in.

 

[MHz]

Sure, they should be the main ones that run rehab for a variety of addictions using traditional drugs. Treatments that actually work rather than being a band-aid for a severed limb.

 

[petros]

Funded with a few waves of a magic eagle fedder?

 

[White_Unifier]

Funded with a few waves of a magic eagle fedder?

It's not up to the government to fund everything: it's up to the government to deregulate enough to allow people to find the funding according to their ability.

 

[MHz]

The places would be money makers. The place still needs a loan before it can be build.

 

[taxslave]

WHy just reserves? Why not let any Canadian city that wants to have private for profit hospitals?

 

[pgs]

Why would any private business establish a hospital that would just go up in smoke? Maybe this would give chiefs an incentive to smarten up then when they're suddenly given this opportunity, private businesses are offering contracts that the chiefs decline, and so no business comes in.

Why work when the money is free and keeps flowing right along ?

 

[Bar Sinister]

I can think of several reasons why this would be a no go.
1. Most reserves are not convenient to major population centres.
2. I suspect that establishing private medical centres is a bit more complex than running casinos.
3. If you have enough money to buy private medicine why would you bother taking a chance on medicine offered on a reserve?
4. Who is going to staff these medical centres? There are not enough Aboriginal Canadians to do the job and attracting outside talent would be difficult.

 

[MHz]

WHy just reserves? Why not let any Canadian city that wants to have private for profit hospitals?

They already have them, the methods they use can't even cure a fuking cold.
Tradition Indian Medicine is what you would get there. ICU would be flooded with ozone rather than the only smell these days is ammonia.

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WTF would you want to expand what is essentially a killing industry?? (aka Health Canada/Alberta Health)
Don't think so? Why are none using this method?? This is from 2004, want to bet it will be the longest study ever before it is green-lighted

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC442111/
Ozone Therapy for Tumor Oxygenation: a Pilot Study

 

[bill barilko]

1-most native bands can't organise a dog fight let alone run a complex high tech business

2-too much opportunity for graft & corruption something native bands are already notorious for

 

[MHz]

I can think of several reasons why this would be a no go.
1. Most reserves are not convenient to major population centres.
2. I suspect that establishing private medical centres is a bit more complex than running casinos.
3. If you have enough money to buy private medicine why would you bother taking a chance on medicine offered on a reserve?
4. Who is going to staff these medical centres? There are not enough Aboriginal Canadians to do the job and attracting outside talent would be difficult.

1. Almost ever one has a Provincial Park.Getting away for an extended stay isn't always a bad idea. In addiction treatment the closer people are the more they might hinder the recovery.
2. The kill ratio is a lot higher also. That statistic can be reduced or is that a worthy goal? A lot cheaper also or is that not a worthy goal?
3. The meds you get from the Pharmacy are meant to keep you as a permanent patient and as expensively as possible. Free Health Care is a godsend to systems that run on money, the more money the better. Patients that have no ailments are not the ones the Clinics like to see.
4. Perhaps some immigrants with the right papers wouldn't mind some hands on. Looks like teaching the patients might help find students that have a natural talent instead of it being a practice that is generations and most were shitty doctors because of a lack of natural talent.

The Pharmacy would a 4 door vehicle and 4 bigger lads and a trunk that even the law isn't allowed to open. Beds for the overflow would be any abandoned vehicle as all have solar power and a big screen and broadband. Trying to move them inside is sometimes a chore.
I wonder what the Amazon jungle would be able to cough up?

 

[Curious Cdn]

The buddy-system nature of most band government would lead to a situation where a certain percentage of the band population would be excluded from receiving healthcare because the Chief, Council or both don't like them.

 

[MHz]

You spelled 'experimented on' wrong. Be mare that happy to post all the links and I even have a copy of the studies that came out. More beds in the bigger prison and not one world about minimal housing standards. They should have a class action suit going and the Communities they come from are also being experimented on.
The vids they are given give out the wrong information intentionally. That healthcare system??

 

[Bar Sinister]

1. Almost ever one has a Provincial Park.Getting away for an extended stay isn't always a bad idea. In addiction treatment the closer people are the more they might hinder the recovery.
2. The kill ratio is a lot higher also. That statistic can be reduced or is that a worthy goal? A lot cheaper also or is that not a worthy goal?
3. The meds you get from the Pharmacy are meant to keep you as a permanent patient and as expensively as possible. Free Health Care is a godsend to systems that run on money, the more money the better. Patients that have no ailments are not the ones the Clinics like to see.
4. Perhaps some immigrants with the right papers wouldn't mind some hands on. Looks like teaching the patients might help find students that have a natural talent instead of it being a practice that is generations and most were shitty doctors because of a lack of natural talent.

The Pharmacy would a 4 door vehicle and 4 bigger lads and a trunk that even the law isn't allowed to open. Beds for the overflow would be any abandoned vehicle as all have solar power and a big screen and broadband. Trying to move them inside is sometimes a chore.
I wonder what the Amazon jungle would be able to cough up?

I'm sorry, but I don't understand answer one and two. And three doesn't seem to make any sense. As for number 4 the reason hospitals are full of staff who are immigrants is because they are already short-staffed. Sending them off to reserves would probably not fit well with any of them and would rob the regular system of staff.