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Motar

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For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God." (1 Peter 1:17-23 NIV)

"Born again" is a term used by Jesus and the apostles to describe the spiritual regeneration of believers, gh.

"Baptized at birth catholic" is a category. We are not judged by association. Rather, we are saved by (personal) faith.

*saved by God's grace through (personal) faith."
 

Motar

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And by the thistle apostle epistle whistle!

"The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." (John 1:14 NIV)

Grace and truth synergize in Christ. One saves; one sanctifies. Grace and truth together effect the new creation.

Have you experienced the new birth?
 

Tecumsehsbones

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"The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." (John 1:14 NIV)

Grace and truth synergize in Christ. One saves; one sanctifies. Grace and truth together effect the new creation.

Have you experienced the new birth?
Nah, I got born the old-fashioned way.
 

selfsame

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"The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." (John 1:14 NIV)

Grace and truth synergize in Christ. One saves; one sanctifies. Grace and truth together effect the new creation.

Have you experienced the new birth?

The enthusiasm about Jesus Christ led Christians to glorify and worship him instead of glorifying and worshiping God Who sent him.

So such enthusiasm about persons (including Jesus and others) is bad and serious in contradiction to the first commandment concerning the devotion and love to God more than all others.

To prove my words, let us see the program of all God's prophets and their missions .. nothing like the enthusiasm about Jesus Christ ..

so all the prophets and apostles glorified God alone .. except the Christian claim which is aberrant than all the messages of all the prophets

when they claimed him son of God or even God Himself, which is the top of enthusiasm and unprecedented in all the previous and the following messages.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/3.htm#Question_25
quran-ayat.com/man/3.htm#Question_25
 
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Cliffy

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Hatched.

Oh... not that far back?



The enthusiasm about Jesus Christ led Christians to glorify and worship him instead of glorifying and worshiping God Who sent him.

 

Ludlow

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wherever i sit down my ars
John, the apostle.



"Since you call on a Father who judges each person’s work impartially, live out your time as foreigners here in reverent fear. For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your ancestors, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect. He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake. Through him you believe in God, who raised him from the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope are in God.

Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for each other, love one another deeply, from the heart.

For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God." (1 Peter 1:17-23 NIV)

"Born again" is a term used by Jesus and the apostles to describe the spiritual regeneration of believers, gh.

"Baptized at birth catholic" is a category. We are not judged by association. Rather, we are saved by (personal) faith.
He must have been pretty old.
 

Motar

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The enthusiasm about Jesus Christ led Christians to glorify and worship him instead of glorifying and worshiping God Who sent him.

So such enthusiasm about persons (including Jesus and others) is bad and serious in contradiction to the first commandment concerning the devotion and love to God more than all others.

To prove my words, let us see the program of all God's prophets and their missions .. nothing like the enthusiasm about Jesus Christ ..

so all the prophets and apostles glorified God alone .. except the Christian claim which is aberrant than all the messages of all the prophets

when they claimed him son of God or even God Himself, which is the top of enthusiasm and unprecedented in all the previous and the following messages.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/3.htm#Question_25
quran-ayat.com/man/3.htm#Question_25

God chose Jesus and Israel to reveal Himself in a representative relationship to mankind, ss.
 

Motar

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If only Kindergarten rules could remedy our spiritual illness, Cliffy.
 

Cliffy

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If only Kindergarten rules could remedy our spiritual illness, Cliffy.
The biggest spiritual illness we have is religion. Atheists are far and above the religious in spiritual development. They only deny one more god/goddess than you do.
 

EagleSmack

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Well T-Bones... you need to learn a little bit more about your culture and who better to teach you than an old white man who was once a Cree Medicine Man in a past life...

School him Cliffy.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Well T-Bones... you need to learn a little bit more about your culture and who better to teach you than an old white man who was once a Cree Medicine Man in a past life...

School him Cliffy.
What dafuq can I learn about me culture from a Cree? I'm Shawnee. That's like saying a Swede can teach a Greek about his culture.

Racist.

No, wait. . .
 

EagleSmack

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What dafuq can I learn about me culture from a Cree? I'm Shawnee. That's like saying a Swede can teach a Greek about his culture.

Racist.

No, wait. . .

Yeah, I'm sorry. I am used to white liberals teaching and talking about NA/FN Culture as one homogeneous society. They're only speaking for those who cannot speak for themselves.
 

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Okay, you don't have to be whatever it is that you were born into, or from, or what your DNA appears to suggest you are, or anything. No one can force you. Not the government. Not the courts. No one. Check with CLiffy on this.

For example, just because you were (allegedly) born white doesn't mean that you have to BE white. You can be whatever you want. And when people challenge you, they only need to be reminded that it is racist and old fashioned thinking. Ancestry.com is false because it claims it can actually tell you what you are genetically. But as we all know, that's wrong, and definitely illegal.

If you appeared to be born into a white Catholic family in Dublin, but claim to be a black female from the Cleveland projects, then you are that black female. To declare you as anyone else has already been taken up by the courts. It's illegal to suggest that you are someone who you don't want to be.

You can even change who you are day to day. Yesterday, for example, I was a beautiful red rose at the flower shop. Tomorrow, I have a hankering to be a specific head of lettuce that I saw at No Frills this afternoon. On the weekend, I am going to be this lady.



Here's a picture of a motorcycle rider, a real native Indian, a cowboy, a cop, a construction worker and a military man.





This is a black lady, Rachel Dolezal. A member of an oppressed people.



This is an Asian woman - Karl Kurfurstendamm.



This is a school bus parked behind a maple tree.



This is a Catholic nun.