No Other Way

Cliffy

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Jesus taught to love everybody. His religion was Love. He was not a Christian.
He said he was a son of god and that we are children of god. He never placed himself above others. He was in service to others. That was his message. Paul came along and created a religion based on Jesus, but not on his teachings but on the deification of Jesus. His great epiphany on the road to Damascus was that he could lead this new, revised Jewish doctrine instead of persecuting them. He is the one who decided to take the message to the gentiles. Jesus was a rabbi who came to update the Jewish religion. Paul messed the whole thing up.
 

Motar

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Jesus taught to love everybody. His religion was Love. He was not a Christian.
He said he was a son of god and that we are children of god. He never placed himself above others. He was in service to others. That was his message. Paul came along and created a religion based on Jesus, but not on his teachings but on the deification of Jesus. His great epiphany on the road to Damascus was that he could lead this new, revised Jewish doctrine instead of persecuting them. He is the one who decided to take the message to the gentiles. Jesus was a rabbi who came to update the Jewish religion. Paul messed the whole thing up.

"Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God." (1 John 4:7 NIV)
 

Cliffy

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"Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God." (1 John 4:7 NIV)
and everybody who hates is also born of god. If god created everybody, then this must be true.
 

Danbones

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The wine was potassium permanganate - purplized water that is disinfected, and safe to drink.
The stuff is found all over the dead sea area ( and in the drug store)
a miracle?
no.

but saying so: that won't feed the collection plate.
:(
 

Danbones

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yes, on this thread we are in jeebus's day
;)
hieroglyphic movies, real blood
 

Motar

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Who wrote that epistle Motar?

John, the apostle.

Define born again.
Is a baptized at birth catholic going to hell?

"Since you call on a Father who judges each person’s work impartially, live out your time as foreigners here in reverent fear. For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your ancestors, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect. He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake. Through him you believe in God, who raised him from the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope are in God.

Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for each other, love one another deeply, from the heart.

For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God." (1 Peter 1:17-23 NIV)

"Born again" is a term used by Jesus and the apostles to describe the spiritual regeneration of believers, gh.

"Baptized at birth catholic" is a category. We are not judged by association. Rather, we are saved by (personal) faith.