Anti-Muslim hatred stirring in Alberta is, sadly, nothing new

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Johnnny

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So only when we talk about about muslims we talk racism and throw the word bigotry or bigot out the window?

Racism is discriminating based on ethnicity, this is the legal definition.
 

Nick Danger

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Do you think the current economic situation in Alberta is playing a part in this? When I'm at work I'm in the camps in the oilsands and yes, there is a murmuring undercurrent of racism there where the large ethnic segment of the workforce is increasingly viewed as "stealing our jobs". There are lots of people out of work, and even more making nowhere near the money that they became used to before the oil crash. Isn't it just human nature to look for someone/something to blame? Something that might be viewed as possible for the rank & file citizens to change? It's the NDP's fault. It's the immigrants' fault. It's big oil's fault. No one wants to think that it's global economic forces beyond local control because that would just leave them helpless and who wants to be helpless?
 
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Cannuck

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So only when we talk about about muslims we talk racism and throw the word bigotry or bigot out the window?

Racism is discriminating based on ethnicity, this is the legal definition.
Yes but people that hate Muslims generally hate brown skinned people. Even though a large percentage of the Syrian refugees were Christians, racist objected to "Muslims" because they thought it would hide their racist beliefs... either that or they were stupid and thought all the refugees were Muslim.

Either way, I doubt anybody believes the hate shown by Trumpites isn't significantly raced based. Why else would you want to get rid of Mexicans and pay more for food.
 

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Do you think the current economic situation in Alberta is playing a part in this? When I'm at work I'm in the camps in the oilsands and yes, there is a murmuring undercurrent of racism there where the large ethnic segment of the workforce there are increasingly viewed as "stealing our jobs". There are lots of people out of work, and even more making nowhere near the money that they became used to before the oil crash. Isn't it just human nature to look for someone/something to blame? Something that might be viewed as possible for the rank & file citizens to change? It's the NDP's fault. It's the immigrants' fault. It's big oil's fault. No one wants to think that it's global economic forces beyond local control because that would just leave them helpless and who wants to be helpless?

Now if the article pertaining to Notley used this as an example as opposed to the Mosque example then the article would be right to use the worlds racism, in my opinion.
 

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Funny, just had a deja vue. Had read about the great success of immigration on France's labour force in the 50's/60's+. It was a love fest really. Everybody was welcome, the more the merrier. Unlike the rest of Europe, birth rates in France had dropped dramatically at the beginning of the century, so they'd decided to open immigration, sounds familiar?? Well, the love fest and statistics started changing in the 80's, when social problems started! Many parents had not integrate with French society, because France being a very liberal country in every aspects of freedoms and rights to people had been an issue for some cultures who saw saw France as a sinful society. Many had come for the social program, education and jobs. Many many immigrants embraced the culture, 'they' after all had moved there, so prospered, but many never did, which prevented their children to fully integrate as well. Now second or third generation feel left out and are angry. Instead of encouraging integration, living amongst the populace and working in Corporate/ Government, they were encouraged to stay inside their own Cartiers and marry their 'own', never mix or become anything but acquaintances with 'others', which actually was fine with all other cultures in France, live and let live right, well now not so much!!
 

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Premier Notley reveals new initiative to combat racism in Alberta

Premier Rachel Notley says the Alberta government plans to take new steps to combat racism in the province.

Speaking at an event in Medicine Hat, Notley said the cabinet discussed the issue at its retreat in Banff last week even before the murder of six Muslim men in a Quebec City mosque on Sunday.

That tragedy shows even more the need for new initiatives to strengthen anti-racism efforts, she said.

"We need to renew our efforts and recommit ourselves to living the values of respect, inclusion and value of diversity in our day-to-day lives," said Notley

"It reminds us that every day is an opportunity for us to live these values and to do it in a way that strengthens our community, not divide it."

Notley provided no other details about the NDP government's plan but said Labour Minister Christina Gray and Culture and Tourism Minister Ricardo Miranda will be responsible for the new initiatives, which will be rolled out "in the weeks and months to come."

The premier visited an Edmonton mosque and attended a vigil for the Quebec City victims on Monday. She spoke personally to Quebec Premier Philipe Couillard Thursday to offer Alberta's condolences.

Premier Notley reveals new initiative to combat racism in Alberta | Alberta | News | Calgary Sun

Huh, who knew Alberta was so racist. I was born here and have lived most of my life here and it's no worse here than anywhere else that I've lived in Canada. But, of course, bashing Alberta is considered the thing to do; not unlike Jane Fonda coming in from elsewhere to tell us how bad we are, now the Eastern press is doing the same thing - guess it must make people feel good to be able to do that.


What Notley is doing should be an example that every premier in every province should be doing to encourage integration and acceptance in our communities - nothing more and nothing less.


JMHO



what she is doing is grabbing onto any little thing she can to try and get the Alberta populace to "look over there".

Now this post demonstrates the depth of your stupidity.

Like I said, GFY.



actually, it shows that not everyone buys your bullshyte and is able to see through to your bigoted ways.
 

petros

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Alberta has grown at an incredible pace in the last 30 years. Who knew it would attract so many racists from Canada wide?
 

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Yes but people that hate Muslims generally hate brown skinned people.
Project much? The majority of the non-Muslims I've known from the Middle East ain't to fond of them either.
I've had friends who had to flee Iran because of religious persecution. They were Zoroastrians.
I had friends who had to flee Lebanon because of religious persecution. They weren't even religious.
I had a friend who came here from Afghanistan because he wanted his daughter to be able to go to school without fear of her being killed for it.
There are more but I'm not going to list every friend and their specific reasons for coming here. Suffice to say that the vast majority came here to get away from the Islamic crap over there. Now that it's coming here as well, they're not too happy about it. Hence the incident in London last year.
To assume that people who hate Muslims generally hate Brown people is in itself a "racist" comment.
 

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These are the 25 most racist countries based on the results, what is the common denominator in these countries? not religion!! what??

# Country % Who don’t want neighbours of another race
2 Lebanon 36.3
3 Bahrain 31.1
4 Libya 54.0
5 Egypt N/A (probably 100%)
6 Philippine 30.6
7 Kuwait 28.1
8 Palestine 44.0
9 South Africa 19.6
10 South Korea 29.6
11 Malaysia 31.3
12 Nigeria 21.0
13 Iraq 27.7
14 Kyrgyzstan 28.1
15 Ecuador 34.5
16 Algeria 19.8
17 Pakistan 14.5
18 Yemen 34.0
19 Hong Kong 18.8
20 Russia 17.0
21 Thailand 39.8
22 Cyprus 26.7
23 Turkey 33.8
24 Morocco 13.8
25 Japan 22.3
 

gerryh

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“People act like whatever’s going on (in the U.S.) does not happen in Canada. But as we saw in Quebec, all these people got shot in a mosque. We don’t feel safe in our country with all the Islamophobic rhetoric that’s going around. It’s unjust, it’s uncalled for, and it’s absolutely wrong,” said Sumaiya Zaman.

She said Prime Minister Justin Trudeau should revoke the so-called safe third country agreement, which makes it difficult for refugees to seek asylum in Canada if they come through the U.S.

“They should also lift the cap on the number of private sponsorships so refugees can find safety here,” she said.


Trudeau should


Now, I'm just a little confused, she states she doesn't feel safe in this country, and yet, she wants Trudeau to lift restrictions to allow more refugees into a Country that she doesn't feels safe in. Say what?
 

Johnnny

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These are the 25 most racist countries based on the results, what is the common denominator in these countries? not religion!! what??

# Country % Who don’t want neighbours of another race
2 Lebanon 36.3
3 Bahrain 31.1
4 Libya 54.0
5 Egypt N/A (probably 100%)
6 Philippine 30.6
7 Kuwait 28.1
8 Palestine 44.0
9 South Africa 19.6
10 South Korea 29.6
11 Malaysia 31.3
12 Nigeria 21.0
13 Iraq 27.7
14 Kyrgyzstan 28.1
15 Ecuador 34.5
16 Algeria 19.8
17 Pakistan 14.5
18 Yemen 34.0
19 Hong Kong 18.8
20 Russia 17.0
21 Thailand 39.8
22 Cyprus 26.7
23 Turkey 33.8
24 Morocco 13.8
25 Japan 22.3

I'm surprised Myanmar didn't make that list
 

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These are the 25 most racist countries based on the results, what is the common denominator in these countries? not religion!! what??

# Country % Who don’t want neighbours of another race
2 Lebanon 36.3
3 Bahrain 31.1
4 Libya 54.0
5 Egypt N/A (probably 100%)
6 Philippine 30.6
7 Kuwait 28.1
8 Palestine 44.0
9 South Africa 19.6
10 South Korea 29.6
11 Malaysia 31.3
12 Nigeria 21.0
13 Iraq 27.7
14 Kyrgyzstan 28.1
15 Ecuador 34.5
16 Algeria 19.8
17 Pakistan 14.5
18 Yemen 34.0
19 Hong Kong 18.8
20 Russia 17.0
21 Thailand 39.8
22 Cyprus 26.7
23 Turkey 33.8
24 Morocco 13.8
25 Japan 22.3


You forgot Quebec.
 

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I would like mentalfloss to define "Albertan". I remember when Calgary was only 700k people. Now they are well over 1 million people, most coming from other provinces and other countries. TO call Albertans racist without casting that label at other provinces and countries...well, not only is it rediculous, it is so 'mentalfloss' trollish behaviour
 

Remington1

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You forgot Quebec.
# 1 is India :)) and the common denominator is that these countries are all "non-white", which includes Quebec BTW Curious, you bigoted %$##$%@. Quebec citizens, same as all provinces have all ethic cultures living next to them, and have had them for years and years, but never have they've had any issues, same as ON and all provinces; our level of bigotry pales in comparison to these countries. I cannot tell you how many times I've been warned by a native of a country to be careful of 'this one or that one', to not talk to them or associate with them and when asked why?, they would do that "'circle with the fingers around the face'", which I found out meant the colour of their skin!! as a Canadian, I found that hard in the beginning. WTF!! We, as a society are so much advance and accepting of others in comparaison thats it's funny to be on here and see some of the posts lol, I'm not from Quebec, but I can tell you that they are not worst than what some provinces are starting to become, courtesy of this wonderful diversity we are all embracing.